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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-819791</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I design product I donât ask you to pay me every time you turn power switch on.&quot;  

   The original idea behind patents was to prevent competition &quot;for a limited time&quot;, supposedly to give inventors/designers  a head-start -- prevent competition while the patent was enforced.

  Odd how this sort of thing is defended by advocates of &quot;capitalism&quot;/&quot;the free market&quot;.    Either that means that &quot;capitalists&quot; are dishonest, patents are evil, or both.

&quot;I never understand, why is ok to listen radio and recording songs including converting into mp3 file is ok too, but putting these files on my computer drives you crazy.&quot;

  Read Lawrence Lessig&#039;s book &quot;Free culture&quot;.  The RIAA vermin tried to prevent music radio, and when they failed to do that, they settled for getting the highest possible royalties they could manage.  This has pretty much driven competition out of terrestrial radio, leaving big megaliths like &quot;Clear Channel&quot; because they can afford the royalties.

   As for home taping and backups?  Jack Valenti compared the VCR to &quot;The Boston Strangler&quot; -- right before they figured out how to make a killing on video rentals.

   They bitch and bitch about making digital backups as well, and, so far, we&#039;re only &quot;permitted&quot; to do so because the courts have seen through the RIAA bullshit.

    The only &quot;temporary moral aberration&quot; is any defense of the RIAA/MPAA: they&#039;ve said too many stupid things, and managed to get way too long of monopolies.

   That&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I design product I donât ask you to pay me every time you turn power switch on.&#8221;  </p>
<p>   The original idea behind patents was to prevent competition &#8220;for a limited time&#8221;, supposedly to give inventors/designers  a head-start &#8212; prevent competition while the patent was enforced.</p>
<p>  Odd how this sort of thing is defended by advocates of &#8220;capitalism&#8221;/&#8221;the free market&#8221;.    Either that means that &#8220;capitalists&#8221; are dishonest, patents are evil, or both.</p>
<p>&#8220;I never understand, why is ok to listen radio and recording songs including converting into mp3 file is ok too, but putting these files on my computer drives you crazy.&#8221;</p>
<p>  Read Lawrence Lessig&#8217;s book &#8220;Free culture&#8221;.  The RIAA vermin tried to prevent music radio, and when they failed to do that, they settled for getting the highest possible royalties they could manage.  This has pretty much driven competition out of terrestrial radio, leaving big megaliths like &#8220;Clear Channel&#8221; because they can afford the royalties.</p>
<p>   As for home taping and backups?  Jack Valenti compared the VCR to &#8220;The Boston Strangler&#8221; &#8212; right before they figured out how to make a killing on video rentals.</p>
<p>   They bitch and bitch about making digital backups as well, and, so far, we&#8217;re only &#8220;permitted&#8221; to do so because the courts have seen through the RIAA bullshit.</p>
<p>    The only &#8220;temporary moral aberration&#8221; is any defense of the RIAA/MPAA: they&#8217;ve said too many stupid things, and managed to get way too long of monopolies.</p>
<p>   That&#8217;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-816420</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riaa, get use to digital millennium. If I design product I don&#039;t ask you to pay me every time you turn power switch on. I never understand, why is ok to listen radio and recording songs including converting into mp3 file is ok too, but putting these files on my computer drives you crazy. I donât have enough time to sleep and to eat properly, - why do you think I need to steal anything from you? If I like music I buy CD, but before I buy I need to listen at least couple of songs to make sure I will not get something I donât like. Why I can not hear songs in CD store anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riaa, get use to digital millennium. If I design product I don&#8217;t ask you to pay me every time you turn power switch on. I never understand, why is ok to listen radio and recording songs including converting into mp3 file is ok too, but putting these files on my computer drives you crazy. I donât have enough time to sleep and to eat properly, &#8211; why do you think I need to steal anything from you? If I like music I buy CD, but before I buy I need to listen at least couple of songs to make sure I will not get something I donât like. Why I can not hear songs in CD store anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-816379</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it could be interesting to see riaalawyer entering student cafÃ© or other popular place and introduce himself..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it could be interesting to see riaalawyer entering student cafÃ© or other popular place and introduce himself..</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-815825</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh come on Sam. Iâm sure youâre gonna find some angle where this extortion racket has been an âincredible successâ and will waste lots of p2pnetâs bandwidth telling us all about it.

Come on, donât disappoint us now.&quot;

   Don&#039;t encourage the guy, Freethinker.  He won&#039;t actually respond to any questions you ask, and will instead engage in lengthy, nonsequitur screeds claiming he&#039;s doesn&#039;t like the RIAA -- just supports everything they stand for.

   You know, like those guys who say they&#039;re not a member of the KKK because &quot;some of their best friends are black people&quot;.

    I personally enjoy giving &quot;Sam&quot; a good troll-smashing from time to time, mainly because everything he says is RIAA-style doublespeak, misinformation, and complete -- willful -- ignorance of the actual issues.

   He dodges every question put to him, attempts to smear p2pers/free culture advocates/IP skeptics as just motivated by &quot;selfish lawlessness&quot; or whatever he called it, and defends all-but-perpetual monopolies as a &quot;fundamental human right&quot;.

  LOL.
   
   Also, it doesn&#039;t help that the dishonest little weasel got all precious over my use of terms like &quot;two liquidy shits&quot; and references to Mitch Bainwol&#039;s seminal fluids etc.

    Evidently he&#039;s never heard the phrase &quot;sucking cock&quot;. 

    Sorry, Jon: I know you told me to lay off him because his shit was getting repetitive and boring, but I just can&#039;t seem to help myself.  I&#039;ve utterly shattered his arguments so many times now that he&#039;s reduced to taking inane little potshots at me again like the cowardly little shit he really is.

    I&#039;d probably give the guy at least SOME grudging respect if he&#039;d at least answer the questions put to him, but since he doesn&#039;t, I&#039;ll just continue to use him to get some good old-fashioned &quot;Lulz&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh come on Sam. Iâm sure youâre gonna find some angle where this extortion racket has been an âincredible successâ and will waste lots of p2pnetâs bandwidth telling us all about it.</p>
<p>Come on, donât disappoint us now.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Don&#8217;t encourage the guy, Freethinker.  He won&#8217;t actually respond to any questions you ask, and will instead engage in lengthy, nonsequitur screeds claiming he&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t like the RIAA &#8212; just supports everything they stand for.</p>
<p>   You know, like those guys who say they&#8217;re not a member of the KKK because &#8220;some of their best friends are black people&#8221;.</p>
<p>    I personally enjoy giving &#8220;Sam&#8221; a good troll-smashing from time to time, mainly because everything he says is RIAA-style doublespeak, misinformation, and complete &#8212; willful &#8212; ignorance of the actual issues.</p>
<p>   He dodges every question put to him, attempts to smear p2pers/free culture advocates/IP skeptics as just motivated by &#8220;selfish lawlessness&#8221; or whatever he called it, and defends all-but-perpetual monopolies as a &#8220;fundamental human right&#8221;.</p>
<p>  LOL.</p>
<p>   Also, it doesn&#8217;t help that the dishonest little weasel got all precious over my use of terms like &#8220;two liquidy shits&#8221; and references to Mitch Bainwol&#8217;s seminal fluids etc.</p>
<p>    Evidently he&#8217;s never heard the phrase &#8220;sucking cock&#8221;. </p>
<p>    Sorry, Jon: I know you told me to lay off him because his shit was getting repetitive and boring, but I just can&#8217;t seem to help myself.  I&#8217;ve utterly shattered his arguments so many times now that he&#8217;s reduced to taking inane little potshots at me again like the cowardly little shit he really is.</p>
<p>    I&#8217;d probably give the guy at least SOME grudging respect if he&#8217;d at least answer the questions put to him, but since he doesn&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll just continue to use him to get some good old-fashioned &#8220;Lulz&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-815347</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll say it again:

   The RIAA is getting EXACTLY what they deserve.  These scumbags were able to successfully cover up the real purpose of copyright and inflate it into damn near perpetuity.  They gutted the &quot;Public domain&quot;, and they got away with it for a long time.

    P2p is merely an outgrowth of mixtapes and other such phenomena.  the RIAA doesn&#039;t understand that if the laws become too oppressive, people WILL reassert the public domain by force: THAT&#039;S the real lesson of p2p, remix-culture, mashups, etc.

    Not only that, but the more p2p implimentations they kill, the faster they spur technological development.  It&#039;s the so-called &quot;pirates&quot; fueling the advance of technology here, folks, and the &quot;honest content providers&quot; --- multi-billion dollar corporate behemoths -- comparing the vcr to the Boston strangler, and trying to get whole technologies banned.

    I actually kinda agree with &quot;Sam&quot; on this one: they RIAA have done a great job: completely alienating their customer base and confirming every negative stereotype about corporate America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say it again:</p>
<p>   The RIAA is getting EXACTLY what they deserve.  These scumbags were able to successfully cover up the real purpose of copyright and inflate it into damn near perpetuity.  They gutted the &#8220;Public domain&#8221;, and they got away with it for a long time.</p>
<p>    P2p is merely an outgrowth of mixtapes and other such phenomena.  the RIAA doesn&#8217;t understand that if the laws become too oppressive, people WILL reassert the public domain by force: THAT&#8217;S the real lesson of p2p, remix-culture, mashups, etc.</p>
<p>    Not only that, but the more p2p implimentations they kill, the faster they spur technological development.  It&#8217;s the so-called &#8220;pirates&#8221; fueling the advance of technology here, folks, and the &#8220;honest content providers&#8221; &#8212; multi-billion dollar corporate behemoths &#8212; comparing the vcr to the Boston strangler, and trying to get whole technologies banned.</p>
<p>    I actually kinda agree with &#8220;Sam&#8221; on this one: they RIAA have done a great job: completely alienating their customer base and confirming every negative stereotype about corporate America.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-815235</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it worked very well for puting the majors out of business. These guys are litterraly dying.

Apparently they think that this is not enought since they are still helping us propagate the boycott even further. Now buying their shit is wrong, stupid,  immoral and unpatriotic while the Indies are coooooollll!  This way of thinking is now deeply rooted in the psy of the general public, particularly the young.

But there is also us and  we will go also after the legal parasites who participated in this ignominy. 

We have the will and the mean to do so. Targets aquisition is in progress, petitions are circulating. . . . We will depossess and  expel them unless they end up in jail.

RIAA lawers! Shiver now because we are comming for you too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it worked very well for puting the majors out of business. These guys are litterraly dying.</p>
<p>Apparently they think that this is not enought since they are still helping us propagate the boycott even further. Now buying their shit is wrong, stupid,  immoral and unpatriotic while the Indies are coooooollll!  This way of thinking is now deeply rooted in the psy of the general public, particularly the young.</p>
<p>But there is also us and  we will go also after the legal parasites who participated in this ignominy. </p>
<p>We have the will and the mean to do so. Targets aquisition is in progress, petitions are circulating. . . . We will depossess and  expel them unless they end up in jail.</p>
<p>RIAA lawers! Shiver now because we are comming for you too!</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-815165</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chronoss

I&#039;m no Hollywood shill, dear chronoss. Why don&#039;t you read my post properly, ya muppet?? Try reading my post again and see if you get it this time. Try reading my first post on here too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chronoss</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no Hollywood shill, dear chronoss. Why don&#8217;t you read my post properly, ya muppet?? Try reading my post again and see if you get it this time. Try reading my first post on here too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-815156</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if theyâd a got âinvolved with p2p instead of the other way around a cheap affordable way could have been had for all that could have resulted in more profits then less.&quot;

Makes one wonder if it&#039;s really just about profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if theyâd a got âinvolved with p2p instead of the other way around a cheap affordable way could have been had for all that could have resulted in more profits then less.&#8221;</p>
<p>Makes one wonder if it&#8217;s really just about profits.</p>
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		<title>By: chronoss</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-814931</link>
		<dc:creator>chronoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;p2p dilemma&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wtf you some hollywood schill &quot;Free Thinker&quot;,&lt;br /&gt;
there is no dilemma other then holly wood being ass backwards.&lt;br /&gt;
Ya know if they&#039;d a got &quot;involved with p2p instead of the other way around a cheap affordable way could have been had for all that could have resulted in more profits then less.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;p2p dilemma&#8221;</p>
<p>wtf you some hollywood schill &#8220;Free Thinker&#8221;,<br />
there is no dilemma other then holly wood being ass backwards.<br />
Ya know if they&#8217;d a got &#8220;involved with p2p instead of the other way around a cheap affordable way could have been had for all that could have resulted in more profits then less.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-814922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Free Thinker &amp; JD

You&#039;re right. Fixed. And thanks for pointing that out.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Free Thinker &#038; JD</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. Fixed. And thanks for pointing that out.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-814898</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it telling that while Ray Beckerman, John Borland, David Kravets, Janko Roettgers, and many others who have written on the subject are quoted, Johnny-come-lately P2PNet does not merit even a single mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it telling that while Ray Beckerman, John Borland, David Kravets, Janko Roettgers, and many others who have written on the subject are quoted, Johnny-come-lately P2PNet does not merit even a single mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-814879</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, I think you meant to finish your quote with &quot;And the lawsuit campaign has not resulted in any royalties to artists. One thing has become clear: suing music fans is no answer to the P2P dilemma.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I think you meant to finish your quote with &#8220;And the lawsuit campaign has not resulted in any royalties to artists. One thing has become clear: suing music fans is no answer to the P2P dilemma.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17183/comment-page-1#comment-814874</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on Sam. I&#039;m sure you&#039;re gonna find some angle where this extortion racket has been an &quot;incredible success&quot; and will waste lots of p2pnet&#039;s bandwidth telling us all about it.

Come on, don&#039;t disappoint us now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on Sam. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re gonna find some angle where this extortion racket has been an &#8220;incredible success&#8221; and will waste lots of p2pnet&#8217;s bandwidth telling us all about it.</p>
<p>Come on, don&#8217;t disappoint us now.</p>
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