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	<title>Comments on: Hollywood vs RealDVD</title>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
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		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to two new reports, The Digital Entertainment Group and NPD  says dvd sales in the US are $16b. 80% of peoples&#039; movie budgets is spent on dvd purchases and rentals  - $8 out of every $10.

&quot;41% of money budgeted for movies and video was spent on DVD movie purchases; 11% on TV programs on DVD; and 29% on DVD rentals, including via Netflix.&quot;

In addition, 18% is spent on movie tickets, but only 0.5% is spent on Web-based services.

also, only 6% surveyed used free p2p networks and 0.5% used &quot;legal&quot; downloads/purchases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to two new reports, The Digital Entertainment Group and NPD  says dvd sales in the US are $16b. 80% of peoples&#8217; movie budgets is spent on dvd purchases and rentals  &#8211; $8 out of every $10.</p>
<p>&#8220;41% of money budgeted for movies and video was spent on DVD movie purchases; 11% on TV programs on DVD; and 29% on DVD rentals, including via Netflix.&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition, 18% is spent on movie tickets, but only 0.5% is spent on Web-based services.</p>
<p>also, only 6% surveyed used free p2p networks and 0.5% used &#8220;legal&#8221; downloads/purchases.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mostly Harmless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: RealNetworks spokeswoman Lacy Kemp

It may be your job, but thank you for responding. The term malware may be inaccurate and a bit of an overstatement, but Rekrul&#039;s experiences/comments spell out very clearly why we dislike, distrust, and won&#039;t use RealNetworks apps. To be fair, the features that are designed to be &quot;helpful&quot; to casual users in many apps (Vista to name a biggy) are in many cases the same things that drive experienced users crazy. But it does go further than that. The &quot;phone home&quot; features that collect data that I consider to be private fall squarely in malware territory. Same goes for file association hijacks, services that keep &quot;coming back&quot; etc... 

Lacy, you state, &quot;Iâve seen the malware claim a million times.&quot;. 

Doesn&#039;t that tell you something all by itself?

As to RealDVD. Go for it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: RealNetworks spokeswoman Lacy Kemp</p>
<p>It may be your job, but thank you for responding. The term malware may be inaccurate and a bit of an overstatement, but Rekrul&#8217;s experiences/comments spell out very clearly why we dislike, distrust, and won&#8217;t use RealNetworks apps. To be fair, the features that are designed to be &#8220;helpful&#8221; to casual users in many apps (Vista to name a biggy) are in many cases the same things that drive experienced users crazy. But it does go further than that. The &#8220;phone home&#8221; features that collect data that I consider to be private fall squarely in malware territory. Same goes for file association hijacks, services that keep &#8220;coming back&#8221; etc&#8230; </p>
<p>Lacy, you state, &#8220;Iâve seen the malware claim a million times.&#8221;. </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that tell you something all by itself?</p>
<p>As to RealDVD. Go for it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, the RIAA/MPAA are vermin, but I never realized that they suffered from severe memory-loss as well.

  Now:

&quot;the studios say they stand to lose, âkey revenue from the sale of DVDs, estimated by Adams Media Research at $15 billion in the U.S. this year, if consumers stop buying DVDs and instead copy rental discs from outlets like Netflix and Blockbuster,â says the Associated Press.&quot;

  THEN:

   &#039;I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.&#039;

   Ain&#039;t hypocrisy fascinating?
   They got bitch-slapped by the Betamax decision, so now we were all &quot;permitted&quot; to own VCR&#039;s.  They didn&#039;t try to ban DVD players -- because they knew it wouldn&#039;t work since people had been &quot;allowed&quot; to posess home playback equipment AND create a viable &quot;movie rental&quot; business in the process.
   
   But they DID score a big &quot;win&quot; with the region-coding nonsense.

   Anybody remember &quot;home taping is killing the music industry&quot;?  They&#039;ve been doing this shit so long nobody even cares anymore.  Even if they DO manage to get RealDVD stopped, somebody&#039;ll just put out another one.

   Remember the big protest over DeCSS?  People made t-shirts with the algorythm on &#039;em.  Remember &quot;Grey Tuesday&quot;?  Sony wanted Dangermouse&#039;s Jay-Z/Beatles mashup album taken down: instead you had HUNDREDS of websites hosting the thing in multiple jurisdictions.

    Despite the ignorant/downright disingenuous claims of the Cartels&#039; apologists, this stuff is NOT a &quot;regrettable but temporary moral aberration&quot;.  Rather, it&#039;s a permanent -- and unstoppable -- REPRISAL against corporate megaliths who attempted to do &quot;more than the market would bear&quot;.

   Any comment &quot;Sam?&quot;  I trust you have something stupid to say on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, the RIAA/MPAA are vermin, but I never realized that they suffered from severe memory-loss as well.</p>
<p>  Now:</p>
<p>&#8220;the studios say they stand to lose, âkey revenue from the sale of DVDs, estimated by Adams Media Research at $15 billion in the U.S. this year, if consumers stop buying DVDs and instead copy rental discs from outlets like Netflix and Blockbuster,â says the Associated Press.&#8221;</p>
<p>  THEN:</p>
<p>   &#8216;I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.&#8217;</p>
<p>   Ain&#8217;t hypocrisy fascinating?<br />
   They got bitch-slapped by the Betamax decision, so now we were all &#8220;permitted&#8221; to own VCR&#8217;s.  They didn&#8217;t try to ban DVD players &#8212; because they knew it wouldn&#8217;t work since people had been &#8220;allowed&#8221; to posess home playback equipment AND create a viable &#8220;movie rental&#8221; business in the process.</p>
<p>   But they DID score a big &#8220;win&#8221; with the region-coding nonsense.</p>
<p>   Anybody remember &#8220;home taping is killing the music industry&#8221;?  They&#8217;ve been doing this shit so long nobody even cares anymore.  Even if they DO manage to get RealDVD stopped, somebody&#8217;ll just put out another one.</p>
<p>   Remember the big protest over DeCSS?  People made t-shirts with the algorythm on &#8216;em.  Remember &#8220;Grey Tuesday&#8221;?  Sony wanted Dangermouse&#8217;s Jay-Z/Beatles mashup album taken down: instead you had HUNDREDS of websites hosting the thing in multiple jurisdictions.</p>
<p>    Despite the ignorant/downright disingenuous claims of the Cartels&#8217; apologists, this stuff is NOT a &#8220;regrettable but temporary moral aberration&#8221;.  Rather, it&#8217;s a permanent &#8212; and unstoppable &#8212; REPRISAL against corporate megaliths who attempted to do &#8220;more than the market would bear&#8221;.</p>
<p>   Any comment &#8220;Sam?&#8221;  I trust you have something stupid to say on the subject.</p>
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