Hollywood keeps RealDVD offline
p2pnet news view | MPAA News:- RealNetworks, formerly just another corporation trying to exploit the online music phenomenon, has now taken on the interesting aspect of underdog with Hollywood doing its best to whip it into submission, just as the major movie studios are trying to do with their own customers.
Hollywood’s six major movie studios are panicking, p2pnet posted last week, going on:
“Time Warner, Viacom, Fox, Sony, NBC Universal and Disney have suddenly realised it’s possible for people to rent movies and then (shudder) copy them!
“Say it ain’t SO!
“But it is so and on the receiving end of the studios’ wrath aren’t the P2P file sharing networks, this time. Instead, RealNetworks, the corporation which for years has been trying to cash in on the online music scene, is bearing the brunt.
“Real, whose software in the past has suffered from a number of critical security problems, is being sued by Hollywood enforcement agency the MPAA.”
Real tried to tough it out but it seems the ever-greedy studios are determined to boot it out of the way.
RealNetworks on yesterday, “failed to convince a district judge to lift a restraining order and allow the company to start selling RealDVD again until she learns from experts, including the court’s, how the software functions,” says CNET News.
“That means RealDVD, which enables users to copy a DVD and store it on their hard drive, is unlikely to reappear in the marketplace for at least another month and perhaps longer,” says the story.
“I am extending the temporary restraining order because I’m not satisfied in the fact that this technology is not in violation,” it has US district judge Marilyn Patel saying.
She also, “chided RealNetworks for ‘rushing to market’ before deciding the issues in court first, as the MPAA had suggested they do.”
p2pnet – Hollywood vs RealDVD, October 1, 2008
CNET News – Judge keeps RealDVD restraining order in place, October 7, 2008
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October 8th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
but seriously , if you want a copy check your friendly neighbor hood P2P
haha you can’t stop the genie once it is out of the bottle.
This is why netscape opensourced communicator4 so that they could give the BIG BIRD to MS.
If real player wants to play hard ball, just open source it.
they have order on the binary, and by time the new order comes to stop source….
Well you get the idea…
October 8th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Either that, or someone who bought it within the short time it was open has cracked it…
October 8th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Why don’t they just release it and sell it in Canada. Frig the states then.
October 8th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
” She also, âchided RealNetworks for ârushing to marketâ before deciding the issues in court first, as the MPAA had suggested they do.â
So, it’s official.
no innovation without prior approval of the competition and the wealthy.
Got it.
October 8th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
I was wondering when they would come out and say it, make it official.
October 8th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
YAWN!!!!! Better apps already out there, MPAA wasting it’s tim stomping this one.
October 8th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Yeah Hippie, that’s the bit that got my attention too.
So if I invent something I shouldn’t market it as a product until I check with the courts to see if it’s legal. WTF!
Sorry, this Judge is an asshat.
Should I get the court’s permission before I brush my teeth?
Why do I hate the legal system, let me count the ways…
All Lawyers shall enter the B ark now please.
Lawyers are the dangerous part of the useless third. Let’s keep the telephone sanitizers instead.
October 9th, 2008 at 9:56 am
“So if I invent something I shouldnât market it as a product until I check with the courts to see if itâs legal.”
Well sure, check if your product is legal, and if it’s questionable, then yes, with the courts. “WTF” yourself.
October 9th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Andy:
1. The only reason most of the stuff they’re supposedly concerned about would be “in violation” of copyright is — and yeah, I’m gonna say it again because somebody needs to hammer the hell out of this point until everybody gets it — the copyright terms have been so vastly inflated. Life plus seventy?
The whole purpose (or more accurately, justification) for copyrights and patents is “to promote science and the useful arts”. They’re SUPPOSED to expire. What’s truly fascinating to me is how many apologists for capitalism (the so-called “free market”) are also defenders of IP law. Coercive monopolies backed by the State, explicitly premised on providing a “financial incentive” to innovate?
It’s tacitly assumed by IP apologists that without such monopolies (or even, with drastically shorter terms), the wondrous “market” they prattle about so much wouldn’t provide incentives to bring new/better products. So there’s the paradox:
Those who defend the “free market” and supposedly detest Government micromanagement of the economy, defend one of the most blatant FORMS of such State intervention: IP law and the courts get to stipulate who is “permitted” to compete — simply to ensure that huge multinational corporate “persons” don’t face unauthorized competition.
We heard this very often from a certain other contributor here — post after post bloviating about how the historical roots and purported justification for IP law were “beside the point”, and that what REALLY mattered was the relative strength of the lobbyists. Now we know.
From this other poster, we also learned the valuable lesson that anybody who opposes (or even questions) the current incarnation of IP law is motivated by “a hatred ot capitalism” and “an anarchist’s public glee”.
I’m going to continue hammering these points until people get the fact that the system under which we live is NOT any sort of “free market”: rather, it’s more akin to “corporate feudalism”, and rapidly — at least in the U.S. — achieving all the major earmarks of fascism.
At least we can all be glad judge Patel stated it openly.
It’s also been gratifying to learn that “the market” provides no incentives to innovate, and thus a vast, complicated system of “Intellectual property” monopolies with damn near infinite terms is required. Now we can all stop debating the mythical “Free market” and get down to discussing what FLAVOR of micromanaged “statism” is best.
(And, yes, just like Lessig, I myself am a former — increasingly more disillusioned — Libertarian).
October 9th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
We now have another idiotic Pro-copyright statement to add to the growing hall of infamously stupid statements:
“For example, earlier this year at the World Health Organization, our broad coalition of associations and companies were able to turn back an anti-IP effort and send the message that such assaults against innovation norms will no longer go unchallenged.
Activist NGOs had been urging the World Health Organization to oppose IP protections for pharmaceutical products, medical devices, and biotechnology.”
This Donahue guy (like so many others) equates IP “protection” and “innovation” — when in fact, as we all know, IP “protection” is the primary force AGAINST innovation, affordable pharmaceuticals, etc.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9800/Chamber+of+Commerce%3A+%27Interference+With+Copyright+Laws+%3D+Marxism%27
That’s it: if these people represent why IP “protection” exists, then it must be destroyed, in all forms.
They couldn’t be satisfied with a mere 14 or twenty year monopoly, nooooo…..they had to press for ever-greater “protection”.
Well, this particular “protection racket” is — by this asshole’s own admission — slipping fast. They need to be “ever-vigilant” in reinforcing their own misinformation-campaign, and getting people to believe these issues are just about “stealing” music or movies.
The fact that the guy admits that their opponents have been “successful” indicates that this is FAR from an uphill battle.