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		<title>By: N.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-877938</link>
		<dc:creator>N.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry, while I agree with most of your post I should point out that the reason #1 why corporations CAN get investments vs. sole proprietors CAN&#039;T is the corporate veil. Corporations also provide continuity of capital even after the founders die. Reason #2 is the limited risk. You invest your money in a corporation, but you&#039;re only liable for the amount you invested. With sole proprietorships and partnerships the banks can go after your personal property. That&#039;s why most successful sore proprietors eventually get converted into corporations (more houses, cars etc. you have as a CEO of your sole proprietorship the more you&#039;re afraid you can lose it).

Capitalism - as they say- is the second best system, but nobody has found the best one yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry, while I agree with most of your post I should point out that the reason #1 why corporations CAN get investments vs. sole proprietors CAN&#8217;T is the corporate veil. Corporations also provide continuity of capital even after the founders die. Reason #2 is the limited risk. You invest your money in a corporation, but you&#8217;re only liable for the amount you invested. With sole proprietorships and partnerships the banks can go after your personal property. That&#8217;s why most successful sore proprietors eventually get converted into corporations (more houses, cars etc. you have as a CEO of your sole proprietorship the more you&#8217;re afraid you can lose it).</p>
<p>Capitalism &#8211; as they say- is the second best system, but nobody has found the best one yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-877923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ The sad thing is:  I wouldn&#039;t in the slightest be surprised to find they actually &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt;been begging for taxpayer money.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ The sad thing is:  I wouldn&#8217;t in the slightest be surprised to find they actually <i>have</i>been begging for taxpayer money.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-877896</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, you beat me to it, as I was reading responses I was going to ask you if that post was satire. I wish the RIAA was in a position to NEED a bailout, unfortunately they are fat and happy with cash, despite cries to the contrary. If you think about it, the sue em all policy is a GREAT money maker for them. If someone buys an mp3 or CD the RIAA has to give some(admittedly a small amount) of that money to the artist, and they(the riaa) only get $1.00 per song retail. When they sue someone, and there is a settlement, it&#039;s usually for more than $1.00 per song, and even better for them, the artist gets NONE of that money! If I had to pick a major beef with the mainstream media&#039;s coverage of this issue, that would be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, you beat me to it, as I was reading responses I was going to ask you if that post was satire. I wish the RIAA was in a position to NEED a bailout, unfortunately they are fat and happy with cash, despite cries to the contrary. If you think about it, the sue em all policy is a GREAT money maker for them. If someone buys an mp3 or CD the RIAA has to give some(admittedly a small amount) of that money to the artist, and they(the riaa) only get $1.00 per song retail. When they sue someone, and there is a settlement, it&#8217;s usually for more than $1.00 per song, and even better for them, the artist gets NONE of that money! If I had to pick a major beef with the mainstream media&#8217;s coverage of this issue, that would be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-877648</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, I am going to bail-out these parasites with pest killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, I am going to bail-out these parasites with pest killer.</p>
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		<title>By: BluFuckingRay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-877279</link>
		<dc:creator>BluFuckingRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are a CREATOR and you want to distribute your film on BLURAY:

http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000733.html

AACS is required on all Blu-ray discs and costs $1,585 per title plus $0.05/disc

No. Holy Jesus Muffin Baked In Hell&#039;s Sweet Flame No.

There is no fucking way I am going to go through the pain of applying for a &quot;license&quot; to some asswipe centralized copy protection gestapo so that I can be issued my unique serial number, blowing $1,585 out the window for the privilege of this delicious turd which I then HAVE to use (HAVE to use, I must stress) on my disc so it &quot;can&#039;t be duplicated&quot; by normal people but easily duplicated by anyone else and THEN pay another five cents PER DISC for all future copies of the disc using this key I didn&#039;t want for copy protection I don&#039;t want. On TOP of the royalty to the patent pool of the Blu-Ray Consortium per disc. No fucking way! I couldn&#039;t make this clearer if I formed the words using a pile of dead offspring. This is an utter deal breaker, friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are a CREATOR and you want to distribute your film on BLURAY:</p>
<p><a href="http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000733.html" rel="nofollow">http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000733.html</a></p>
<p>AACS is required on all Blu-ray discs and costs $1,585 per title plus $0.05/disc</p>
<p>No. Holy Jesus Muffin Baked In Hell&#8217;s Sweet Flame No.</p>
<p>There is no fucking way I am going to go through the pain of applying for a &#8220;license&#8221; to some asswipe centralized copy protection gestapo so that I can be issued my unique serial number, blowing $1,585 out the window for the privilege of this delicious turd which I then HAVE to use (HAVE to use, I must stress) on my disc so it &#8220;can&#8217;t be duplicated&#8221; by normal people but easily duplicated by anyone else and THEN pay another five cents PER DISC for all future copies of the disc using this key I didn&#8217;t want for copy protection I don&#8217;t want. On TOP of the royalty to the patent pool of the Blu-Ray Consortium per disc. No fucking way! I couldn&#8217;t make this clearer if I formed the words using a pile of dead offspring. This is an utter deal breaker, friends.</p>
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		<title>By: ya leaked on purpose</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-877037</link>
		<dc:creator>ya leaked on purpose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go ahead bail them out too, and when your country has no more cash left 
WHATCHA GONNA DO THEN MR PRESIDENT.
RAISE TAXES UNTIL EVERYONE LIVES IN A TENT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go ahead bail them out too, and when your country has no more cash left<br />
WHATCHA GONNA DO THEN MR PRESIDENT.<br />
RAISE TAXES UNTIL EVERYONE LIVES IN A TENT?</p>
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		<title>By: stw</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876891</link>
		<dc:creator>stw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heheh, I was wondering where the referenced post was Jon. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heheh, I was wondering where the referenced post was Jon. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876890</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ I screwed up.

I just accidentally overwrote a comment post from Alsee, the one I refer to above, citing Jonathan Swiftâs 1729 satire, and which inspired my own comment.

Alsee expressed surprise at the fact no one appears to have picked up that Silvermanâs piece was a satire.

Alsee also believes it was significant I hadnât said âA Modest Proposalâ was part of the title to Silvermanâs post, which in full was (and still is ;) ) Commentary: Save the Music, A Modest Proposal For Government Intervention. Actually, all Iâd meant to do was abbreviate it.

So, Alsee, Iâm really sorry for inadvertently deleting your original Readerâs Write. Please feel free to post it again.

Cheers! And thanks â¦</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ I screwed up.</p>
<p>I just accidentally overwrote a comment post from Alsee, the one I refer to above, citing Jonathan Swiftâs 1729 satire, and which inspired my own comment.</p>
<p>Alsee expressed surprise at the fact no one appears to have picked up that Silvermanâs piece was a satire.</p>
<p>Alsee also believes it was significant I hadnât said âA Modest Proposalâ was part of the title to Silvermanâs post, which in full was (and still is <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) Commentary: Save the Music, A Modest Proposal For Government Intervention. Actually, all Iâd meant to do was abbreviate it.</p>
<p>So, Alsee, Iâm really sorry for inadvertently deleting your original Readerâs Write. Please feel free to post it again.</p>
<p>Cheers! And thanks â¦</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876882</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ Satires / lampoons / parodies are among the most powerful weapons we have against the people who try to run our lives and over the past six years, I&#039;ve  published several of my own, my favourite being the one featuring Apple and SunnComm, a tacky DRM company.

I thought it couldn&#039;t have been more obvious that in it, I was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mocking both Apple and SunnComm&lt;/a&gt;. But I was wrong. So many people took it seriously SunnComm ended up issuing a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6914&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;passionate denial&lt;/a&gt; in a national, and even perhaps international, press release.

Tony Silverman&#039;s piece is in my book one of the best satires on the corporate music industry I&#039;ve ever seen and I admit I was hoping this post would provoke one or two mainstream reactions. 

I emphasised, &quot;Rock &amp; Roll did more to bring about the fall of the Soviet Union than the CIA. A strong music business is a matter of national security.&quot;

Excellent, and this isn&#039;t bad either &gt;&gt; &quot;Between 2000 and last year, the number of new releases rose from 35,515 to 79,695, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This increase in production has created an album glut, which the government could reduce by paying labels not to release albums, as it has done for agricultural commodities. It should also establish a fund to buy back 20% of all U.S. artist CD returns, which it could then distribute to developing nations to further spread American influence.&quot;

Meanwhile, I&#039;d never heard of Swift&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rbear/modest.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A MODEST PROPOSAL&lt;/a&gt; FOR PREVENTING THE CHILDREN OF POOR PEOPLE IN IRELAND FROM BEING A BURDEN TO THEIR PARENTS OR COUNTRY, AND FOR MAKING THEM BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC.

It&#039;s absolutely amazing. Thanks, Alsee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ Satires / lampoons / parodies are among the most powerful weapons we have against the people who try to run our lives and over the past six years, I&#8217;ve  published several of my own, my favourite being the one featuring Apple and SunnComm, a tacky DRM company.</p>
<p>I thought it couldn&#8217;t have been more obvious that in it, I was <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6867" rel="nofollow">mocking both Apple and SunnComm</a>. But I was wrong. So many people took it seriously SunnComm ended up issuing a <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6914" rel="nofollow">passionate denial</a> in a national, and even perhaps international, press release.</p>
<p>Tony Silverman&#8217;s piece is in my book one of the best satires on the corporate music industry I&#8217;ve ever seen and I admit I was hoping this post would provoke one or two mainstream reactions. </p>
<p>I emphasised, &#8220;Rock &amp; Roll did more to bring about the fall of the Soviet Union than the CIA. A strong music business is a matter of national security.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent, and this isn&#8217;t bad either &gt;&gt; &#8220;Between 2000 and last year, the number of new releases rose from 35,515 to 79,695, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This increase in production has created an album glut, which the government could reduce by paying labels not to release albums, as it has done for agricultural commodities. It should also establish a fund to buy back 20% of all U.S. artist CD returns, which it could then distribute to developing nations to further spread American influence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;d never heard of Swift&#8217;s <a href="http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rbear/modest.html" rel="nofollow">A MODEST PROPOSAL</a> FOR PREVENTING THE CHILDREN OF POOR PEOPLE IN IRELAND FROM BEING A BURDEN TO THEIR PARENTS OR COUNTRY, AND FOR MAKING THEM BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely amazing. Thanks, Alsee.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876758</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, in a nutshell, the American music industry is a useful propaganda tool?

I just thought they were useless tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, in a nutshell, the American music industry is a useful propaganda tool?</p>
<p>I just thought they were useless tools.</p>
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		<title>By: lowly one</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876637</link>
		<dc:creator>lowly one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re nearly a laugh; but you&#039;re really a cry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re nearly a laugh; but you&#8217;re really a cry!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876609</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t mind so much if they didn&#039;t trumpet capitalism and freedom and such while clearly advancing towards what can most easily be described as a lesser fascism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind so much if they didn&#8217;t trumpet capitalism and freedom and such while clearly advancing towards what can most easily be described as a lesser fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876606</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rock &amp; Roll did more to bring about the fall of the Soviet Union than the CIA,â&quot; he says. âA strong music business is a matter of national security.â

Here&#039;s an idea.
Allow rock n roll on P2P and it will lead to the fall of china and Korea.

Fuckin morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rock &amp; Roll did more to bring about the fall of the Soviet Union than the CIA,â&#8221; he says. âA strong music business is a matter of national security.â</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea.<br />
Allow rock n roll on P2P and it will lead to the fall of china and Korea.</p>
<p>Fuckin morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Scott Scheel</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876159</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Scott Scheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ermich, you didn&#039;t describe Capitalism...you described one of the many terrible perversions of Capitalism known as Fascism...

Capitalism is great in theory.  I&#039;d just like to see it happen in practice.

(Off topic, but socialism is about equal results for everybody)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ermich, you didn&#8217;t describe Capitalism&#8230;you described one of the many terrible perversions of Capitalism known as Fascism&#8230;</p>
<p>Capitalism is great in theory.  I&#8217;d just like to see it happen in practice.</p>
<p>(Off topic, but socialism is about equal results for everybody)</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876122</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought one of the tenants of capitalism was that companies remained free of interference from governments? 

   Hahahaha!  Corporations are ABOUT &quot;interference from Government&quot;:

   1. &quot;Limited liability&quot; means that Government creates a &quot;veil&quot; between the &quot;personal assets&quot; of corporate CEOs and shareholders and the assets of the corporation itself.  How this doesn&#039;t encourage &quot;bad behavior&quot; on the part of stockholders and corporate boards is beyond me.  People - particularly CEOs with muliti-billion dollar salaries -- know that their &quot;personal&quot; property and assets are completely insulated from the consequences of what the corporation does.  With a vanishingly few exceptions, if corporations are liquidated, the CEOS and board members&#039; never have to deal with the possibility of losing their ten houses or their fleet of cars.

   Incorporation is ABOUT the State &quot;interfering&quot; to insulate people from the consequences of their own business decisions.

    Sole proprietorships/partnerships don&#039;t provide &quot;limited liability&quot; -- the proprietors of the business enterprise retail full liability for what their business does.  Interesting how most &quot;mon and pop&quot; outits retain a sense of ethics, no?  Corporate drones and the scumbags-in-chief at the top know full well that nothing they do will have any &quot;consequences&quot; to them, financial or otherwise.

   The employees who can -- and often are -- terminated on a whim, however, aren&#039;t so lucky.

   &quot;Capitalism&quot; may be a lot of things, but it sure as fuck isn&#039;t &quot;free enterprise&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought one of the tenants of capitalism was that companies remained free of interference from governments? </p>
<p>   Hahahaha!  Corporations are ABOUT &#8220;interference from Government&#8221;:</p>
<p>   1. &#8220;Limited liability&#8221; means that Government creates a &#8220;veil&#8221; between the &#8220;personal assets&#8221; of corporate CEOs and shareholders and the assets of the corporation itself.  How this doesn&#8217;t encourage &#8220;bad behavior&#8221; on the part of stockholders and corporate boards is beyond me.  People &#8211; particularly CEOs with muliti-billion dollar salaries &#8212; know that their &#8220;personal&#8221; property and assets are completely insulated from the consequences of what the corporation does.  With a vanishingly few exceptions, if corporations are liquidated, the CEOS and board members&#8217; never have to deal with the possibility of losing their ten houses or their fleet of cars.</p>
<p>   Incorporation is ABOUT the State &#8220;interfering&#8221; to insulate people from the consequences of their own business decisions.</p>
<p>    Sole proprietorships/partnerships don&#8217;t provide &#8220;limited liability&#8221; &#8212; the proprietors of the business enterprise retail full liability for what their business does.  Interesting how most &#8220;mon and pop&#8221; outits retain a sense of ethics, no?  Corporate drones and the scumbags-in-chief at the top know full well that nothing they do will have any &#8220;consequences&#8221; to them, financial or otherwise.</p>
<p>   The employees who can &#8212; and often are &#8212; terminated on a whim, however, aren&#8217;t so lucky.</p>
<p>   &#8220;Capitalism&#8221; may be a lot of things, but it sure as fuck isn&#8217;t &#8220;free enterprise&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876119</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much wrong with this idea.

&quot;while using American music to influence foreign culture&quot;
Myself personally dont want to see any more &quot;Gangsta&quot; or &quot;Ghetto&quot; influenced culture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much wrong with this idea.</p>
<p>&#8220;while using American music to influence foreign culture&#8221;<br />
Myself personally dont want to see any more &#8220;Gangsta&#8221; or &#8220;Ghetto&#8221; influenced culture</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876111</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the reasons I have been against the bail out from the start when it was first brought up. 

There has been a failure in this rush to do something in first formulating the rules to go by and couple to the money. Just like the Iraqi war, this was put into effect. With little thought out plans, a whole bunch of drum beating to stir up emotions to sell the idea, and jumping in head over heels. 

Now you have every corporation looking for that free hand out. Hey, the US government is giving money away to those that ask. You don&#039;t even have to be part of the US to get it. Stupid and dumb with the taxpayer left holding the bag. If you think the economy was going to tank before with all the deficits because it is driven by consumer spending, wait till the tax bill comes in for this one on top of the two wars fought on credit. This is another nail in the coffin, ensuring the economy is going to gutter. It&#039;s feel good, not doing good and is a direct example of why the American people have given Bush and company such a low confidence rating. Not to mention what the American people think of the Congresscritters that all jumped on the bandwagon, without much thought. 

Supposedly, Bush has been in the planning stages for some time over the situtation to have a plan to deal with it. What I distinctly notice in all this, was a lack of involving anyone else till it was in dire circumstances. It gives me the definate impression he was hoping to walk out without having to deal with it, leaving it as a time bomb for the new president to deal with. Thus making a very bad impression on the public with the new president as no matter how it is dealt with, the economy is a major producer of public sentiment. 

Again, playing politics is more important than doing what is good for the country. It is amply demonstrated in this  emotional, no time for considering so do it now, little thought out plan. It is the same way he has gotten passed so many bills that if there were time to reason and consider, no one in their right mind would have supported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the reasons I have been against the bail out from the start when it was first brought up. </p>
<p>There has been a failure in this rush to do something in first formulating the rules to go by and couple to the money. Just like the Iraqi war, this was put into effect. With little thought out plans, a whole bunch of drum beating to stir up emotions to sell the idea, and jumping in head over heels. </p>
<p>Now you have every corporation looking for that free hand out. Hey, the US government is giving money away to those that ask. You don&#8217;t even have to be part of the US to get it. Stupid and dumb with the taxpayer left holding the bag. If you think the economy was going to tank before with all the deficits because it is driven by consumer spending, wait till the tax bill comes in for this one on top of the two wars fought on credit. This is another nail in the coffin, ensuring the economy is going to gutter. It&#8217;s feel good, not doing good and is a direct example of why the American people have given Bush and company such a low confidence rating. Not to mention what the American people think of the Congresscritters that all jumped on the bandwagon, without much thought. </p>
<p>Supposedly, Bush has been in the planning stages for some time over the situtation to have a plan to deal with it. What I distinctly notice in all this, was a lack of involving anyone else till it was in dire circumstances. It gives me the definate impression he was hoping to walk out without having to deal with it, leaving it as a time bomb for the new president to deal with. Thus making a very bad impression on the public with the new president as no matter how it is dealt with, the economy is a major producer of public sentiment. </p>
<p>Again, playing politics is more important than doing what is good for the country. It is amply demonstrated in this  emotional, no time for considering so do it now, little thought out plan. It is the same way he has gotten passed so many bills that if there were time to reason and consider, no one in their right mind would have supported.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876051</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, sue your customers, then get hand outs from government, f**king brilliant idea. HaHaHaHa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, sue your customers, then get hand outs from government, f**king brilliant idea. HaHaHaHa</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-876024</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;national security&quot;  HA you just lost all credibility.  9 billion? jeez the power of the people really is winding them down.  
whoever this silverman guy is, hes seriously delusional if he thinks hes going to see a penny.   

So if all the people in the US claim to be artists, such as mr silverman or the people he claims to represent; can they all get in on the bailout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;national security&#8221;  HA you just lost all credibility.  9 billion? jeez the power of the people really is winding them down.<br />
whoever this silverman guy is, hes seriously delusional if he thinks hes going to see a penny.   </p>
<p>So if all the people in the US claim to be artists, such as mr silverman or the people he claims to represent; can they all get in on the bailout?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17522/comment-page-1#comment-875992</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This clown can&#039;t be serious, can he? We should never have bailed out the banks, and we shouldn&#039;t bail out the auto industry. Bailing them out is tantamount to rewarding bad behavior and severe mismanagement. This is absolutely insane that someone would actually float this idea as reasonable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This clown can&#8217;t be serious, can he? We should never have bailed out the banks, and we shouldn&#8217;t bail out the auto industry. Bailing them out is tantamount to rewarding bad behavior and severe mismanagement. This is absolutely insane that someone would actually float this idea as reasonable</p>
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