i like the analogy of the car and the handbag. i agree completely. once i buy it, i can do with it what i like. poo on u riaa and cria

peace

11/11 lest we forget

The essential difference between both examples is the word “copy” that appears in the latter but not in the first.

RIAA Bans Telling Friends About Songs

@Angela: It’s nice to know that the demand for secure encrypted file-sharing continues to spur business models to create nice tools like your NomaDesk, kudos and keep it up. I didn’t play with it, but your point is clear, very clear. There are many, many, many uses for file-sharing protocols that have absolutely nothing to do with a ‘Conspiracy to defraud the Music Industry’. ( That tag line just kills me )

It’s very sad that the RIAA goes after internet users that really don’t know any better. Many of the kazaa lawsuits are against users that didn’t even realize their folder is shared for others to view.

Believe me the RIAA surfs the torrents more than a hundred users combined in attempts to update their database of ‘violating’ content. an’ admin’ used to run a hotline server where the rules were ‘out of this world’. zip file, rename file, upload file, rename uploaded file, unzip. This was an easy way to bypass sniffing for packet headers and worked, this was in 1999

hth

to begin with, an easy argument is that you have a sensitive job, and start encrypting everything you transfer. there are several free apps that will encrypt every packet you send/receive. complain you are being throttled without cause, and with enough support (read legal help) they will be forced to relent. throttling encryption is a ‘catch-all’, like alot of the RIAA’s angles. ‘If your encrypting, then you must be doing something illegal.’ is NOT legal, for any country. They do this in response to your encryption, cause they cant DPI it. Can you say asshat?.

my second suggestion is to get an account above ‘consumer’, like a ‘business-like’ level of service, where they will be legally binded to provide you with unthrottled access. Business level service is restricted by much more stringent regulations. (read lawsuits).

There are several other ‘proxy’ approaches to confusing their ‘automation’. To begin with, use your router to block ALL UDP traffic, and they will be contacting you shortly . blocking all UDP disallows them to talk to your router, and then throttle it. blocking UDP will also piss them off, (read I love it!), and is part of the protocol on how they assign you an available dynamic IP. if you block UDP, they cannot reset your IP, or review your packets at the router level, which is where they are throttling you.

quick fix, is to reset the router periodically to gain a new IP (if dynamic) and the throttling will have to resniff and restart.

so for your reading pleasure, as Jon says, .. stay tuned..

they think that suing customers is a deterrent, its quite the opposite, for every customer they piss off, they make 10x more customers that turn to file-sharing. this is the law of averages. make something illegal and only criminals will do it. except the criminal behavior is only in their little minds.

30,000 lawsuits and counting, these hyenas only go after easy prey and they know it. the ‘power file-sharers’ are so far out of their reach, they think that intimidating the small amount of users they can get to will sway us? … it’s never going to happen. their tactics only improve our community.

I read a few articles under interviews today and was impressed. I am not the only one out there with this kind of experience and history. and their tirades are only comedic relief, they have absolutely no clue. They are only educating the uneducated on how to file-share more effectively, and to stay away from things like kazaa.

my world is international, with such a deep base of talented folk, they have a better chance of inventing warp drive than catching anyone of us. we build our own protocols, interfaces, trackers, mail servers, exchange routines and even encryption. Microsoft has around 1000 developers, we have millions. we are organized and have a cause, to do exactly what they DONT want us to do, hack their garbage, and then distribute it, and then brag, privately of course.

Spore was exceptionally satisfying, they roll out the best they got, and we hacked it in days. Face it, corporations have less than 1% of the world’s talent, the file-sharing world has close to 20%. Sh*t, make it harder, cmon Sony, AACS was hacked in days, FairPlay in hours. Give us a real challenge. Of course, this will never happen.

The reality is that they cannot come up with anything we cant hack. They spend millions of usd/eus to come up with the ‘next big thing’., and we hack it for 0 usd/eus, its a game to us and they will NEVER win, they dont even know the rules. we hacked their website, and it went unnotticed for months, just shows you how ‘in’ they really are. how ‘in touch’ with what is REALLY going on.

They are children playing in an adult world, it will always be this way, it will never change.

Thank you.

I have pretty much made myself a pariah around here trying to say that.

The whole industry is a vampire relationship where everyone else pays in blood for what little they get. No one that deals with the majors gets a fair shake. Not the musicians, not the customer, not the manufacture of the discs, not the middlemen that move the product, and not the sites that offer such product on line for sale.

Everyone gets screwed to deal with the majors is the theme. Can it be any wonder that it has turned out the way it has?

Even payolla is alive and well. Remember the agreement that was achieved to end payolla by the ex-attorney general Elliot Spitzer? The agreement to end payolla, to allow indies part of the broadcast time, etc? It is evident on the face of it, they signed a deal they had no intention of honoring and paid up the money. Nothing has changed on the broadcast side. Radio land is still a wasteland of boring replays with nothing new to hear that might interest you in something…anything… other than the sponsored themes.

Again, the money speaks louder than words and the public is the loser in it.

I joined file sharing when Napster was going south under the gun from the majors siccing the RIAA on them with a lawsuit that eventually wound up closing them down. Shortly after that, the sharing place I was at closed as well from the same method.

I found when it had, being a new online user, I stupidly searched for mp3 sites where I could go to continue. That search was loaded with sites just waiting to catch the unsuspecting with malware and boy did they load me up with it in the process. I finally found what I was looking for, a format later and a bit wiser.

I won’t forgive the industry the pain in the butts they have caused with malware, purposely seeded on the net by their hired third parties, while at the same time, seeding the same sites with tunes to find out if they are commercially viable or seeking data on how it will sell without putting out the money to advertise. They have wanted their cake both to eat and to enjoy the visual stimulation at the same time.

I now find it humorous that they are seeking to nail the first distributors who come out with the offers prior to them being on the market, yet that is exactly what they were doing with p2p in finding out if a tune had market value.

Oink had such insiders in the music industry that gave music that were insider samples and demos not to be sold but rather to be passed around to see if there was financial interest. So they went after them, hot and heavy. Yet you can be sure they were up to their eyeballs with part of that early distribution to run surveys on the sales possibilities.

Thank you for this article, surfer. Much of what you mention is before my time or outside my experience. So I found it interesting.