Proposition 8, ‘Sad, ironic, and despicable’
p2pnet news view | Freedom:- Celebrity gay rights activists are using the Net to voice their anger over the decision on Proposition 8, the 2008 California General Election ballot which says same-sex couples can’t marry, p2pnet has said in several posts.
In our latest, “This used to be one of my favourite places but I will be staying away from now on,” says the first comment to the story, adding, “But now YOU have now too far. Homosexuals are deviants and that is all there is too it.”
“It is that simple, no fearful vote will ever stop us, that is not the American way,” we quote Melissa Etheridge as saying in the post.
“Yeah, because ‘voting’ and decision by majority aren’t American ways, says another Reader’s Write.
Responds Alsee »»»
During the 2000 election, 40% of voters in Alabama voted against the legal recognition of interracial marriage. Two years earlier it was 38% voting against interracial marriage in South Carolina.
In 1967 the “activist courts” “legislated from the bench” imposing interracial marriage against the Democratic Majority will at the time. There was overwhelming 72% Democratic Majority vote against it, to protect the traditional institution of marriage against interracial marriages. Some states it still nearly have a Democratic Majority will to ban interracial marriage.
Mr Reader’s Write you were actually right when you said “voting and decision by majority aren’t American ways” when it comes to civil rights. Under the Constitution the law cannot discriminate between people on the basis of race gender or religion. Democratic Majority vote doesn’t matter. It is impossible to violate the US Constitution with some 51% Democratic Majority vote. Any such majority vote law is invalid null and void. Any such majority vote state constitutional amendment is invalid null and void. California’s prop-8 is invalid null and void.
Civil law granting civil marriage licenses cannot examine the races of marriage applicants when deciding weather to grant or deny such civil licenses. The constitution mandates equal treatment under the law.
If the law grants civil marriage to a white couple then it has no valid means to deny an otherwise identical interracial couple that identical civil marriage.
Civil law granting civil marriage licenses cannot examine the religions of marriage applicants when deciding whether to grant or deny such civil licenses. The constitution mandates equal treatment under the law. If the law grants civil marriage to a Christian couple then it has no valid means to deny an otherwise identical interfaith couple that identical civil marriage.
And the really sad part is that not so long after winning equal race-based civil rights to marriage for themselves, it’s the BLACK community voting 70% to deny equal gender-based civil rights in marriage. After finally removing the examination and discrimination of race in the law, perpetuating the examination and discrimination of gender in the law. Sad, ironic, and despicable.
And as for the people ranting about marrying pets and polygamy and pedophilia, get a clue, it’s a ridiculous invalid argument.
It *is* unconstitutional for the law to discriminate on the basis of race, it *is* unconstitutional for the law to discriminate on the basis of gender, it *is* unconstitutional for the law to discriminate on the basis of religion.
It is *not* unconstitutional for the law to discriminate the difference between people and animals. A cow does not have any right to vote, nor to get married.
It is *not* unconstitutional for the law to discriminate the difference between children and adults. Children do not have any right to vote, nor to get married. It is *not* unconstitutional for the law to discriminate the difference between a-person and multiple-people.
All of the arguments and battles are moot, fighting a war that is already decided.
The younger generation public opinion is overwhelmingly in favor of equal civil rights gay marriage. Opposition is in the older generation, and primarily amongst senior citizens. The simple fact is that no force on earth can stand against a generational shift.
Interracial marriage opponents and gay marriage opponents can say “over my dead body”, and they are not far wrong. Sooner or later the younger generation position WILL win, even if they have to bury the older generation to do it. This issue is following the exact same course interracial marriage took. The younger generation overwhelmingly supported interracial marriage, the older generation racists dead and dying every day. Homophobe bigots are aging and dying every day.
National public opinion on interracial marriage shifted by almost 1% per year. National public opinion on gay marriage is shifting by almost 2% per year, twice as fast.
Acceptance of gay unions is already way higher than acceptance of interracial marriage was when the Supreme Court nationally legalized it in 1967.
It will be the democratic majority vote position in California in about a year. It will be the democratic majority vote position Nationally before the next presidential election rolls back around. It’s over. Opinions are shifting in favor as people get used to the new idea, and those who are most opposed are the senior citizens being buried day by day.
It’s over.
our latest – California Proposition 8, ‘doesn’t go far enough’, November 8, 2008
Melissa Etheridge – You Can Forget My Taxes, October 29, 2008
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November 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Fuck Arkansas and Fuck Utah!
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November 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Almost all civil right gains were caused by time, like the example above. This is no exception.