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		<title>By: MuxMate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-885509</link>
		<dc:creator>MuxMate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did my comment go?

I just want everyone to get along on all sides of the divide.

Maybe this one won&#039;t disappear, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did my comment go?</p>
<p>I just want everyone to get along on all sides of the divide.</p>
<p>Maybe this one won&#8217;t disappear, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-884819</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: AREN&#039;T about incentive to innovate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: AREN&#8217;T about incentive to innovate.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-884810</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Things will turn out, as you say, but how is anybody’s guess as of yet.&quot;

  It&#039;s a foregone conclusion, and it has been since Napster:  They&#039;ve already lost in every way that counts:

  1. For every one they shut down, ten or twenty spring up.
   2. For every impediment to p2p technology they come up with, somebody cracks it in a week.  Same goes for DRM.
   3. They&#039;ve already alienated an entire generation of teens (and a hell of a lot of other people besides.)
   
   The Copyright extension act was first-hand evidence that the &quot;laws&quot; related to IP aren&#039;t t here to protect creators.  The (repeated) attempts to stamp out/sue any really innovative technology and/or compare it to the Boston Strangler proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these laws are about &quot;incentive to innovate.&quot;

  Somebody -- probably a lot of somebodies -- like the Piratebay, &quot;Students for a free culture&quot;, or even just our pal Jon Newton  is gonna continue to stand up to these corporate worms, and grind them ever further into the dust of history.

   Like that guy Fung from Isohunt said, it&#039;s the LAWS that need to change -- not anything the p2p advocates/users are doing.

   The pigs tried (and thought they&#039;d succeeded) killing the public domain with that &quot;extension&quot; act.  p2p technology was just the thing that woke everybody the hell up, is all.

   Copyright is shit, pure and simple, and the more they keep doing this, the more people wake up to that fact.

(And to think I actually agreed with these vultures at one point!) :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Things will turn out, as you say, but how is anybody’s guess as of yet.&#8221;</p>
<p>  It&#8217;s a foregone conclusion, and it has been since Napster:  They&#8217;ve already lost in every way that counts:</p>
<p>  1. For every one they shut down, ten or twenty spring up.<br />
   2. For every impediment to p2p technology they come up with, somebody cracks it in a week.  Same goes for DRM.<br />
   3. They&#8217;ve already alienated an entire generation of teens (and a hell of a lot of other people besides.)</p>
<p>   The Copyright extension act was first-hand evidence that the &#8220;laws&#8221; related to IP aren&#8217;t t here to protect creators.  The (repeated) attempts to stamp out/sue any really innovative technology and/or compare it to the Boston Strangler proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these laws are about &#8220;incentive to innovate.&#8221;</p>
<p>  Somebody &#8212; probably a lot of somebodies &#8212; like the Piratebay, &#8220;Students for a free culture&#8221;, or even just our pal Jon Newton  is gonna continue to stand up to these corporate worms, and grind them ever further into the dust of history.</p>
<p>   Like that guy Fung from Isohunt said, it&#8217;s the LAWS that need to change &#8212; not anything the p2p advocates/users are doing.</p>
<p>   The pigs tried (and thought they&#8217;d succeeded) killing the public domain with that &#8220;extension&#8221; act.  p2p technology was just the thing that woke everybody the hell up, is all.</p>
<p>   Copyright is shit, pure and simple, and the more they keep doing this, the more people wake up to that fact.</p>
<p>(And to think I actually agreed with these vultures at one point!) <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-884547</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;PE Obama shutting the doors on the lobbyists is a step in the right direction,
Ted stevens being ousted is another.&quot;

Overwise all these recording industry parasites and their lawers might end up beein murdered.

If you keep puling on a rope eventually it will snap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;PE Obama shutting the doors on the lobbyists is a step in the right direction,<br />
Ted stevens being ousted is another.&#8221;</p>
<p>Overwise all these recording industry parasites and their lawers might end up beein murdered.</p>
<p>If you keep puling on a rope eventually it will snap.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-884517</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A French court has now ruled that this is indeed possible, which means that they can proceed to court.&quot;

These French judges are desilusional! And so is the SPFF.

Who do they think they are to believe that  judges decision taken from a small corner of Europe will apply in USA?

Whahahahahahahahahaha! Go for it!

Whahahahahahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A French court has now ruled that this is indeed possible, which means that they can proceed to court.&#8221;</p>
<p>These French judges are desilusional! And so is the SPFF.</p>
<p>Who do they think they are to believe that  judges decision taken from a small corner of Europe will apply in USA?</p>
<p>Whahahahahahahahahaha! Go for it!</p>
<p>Whahahahahahaha!</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-884319</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Isn’t that great? The music execs after all *do* understand their business and are very receptive to new ideas! Read the rest of it here: http://muxtape.com/

It looks like the all the controversy about file sharing, lawsuits and so on are just all be based on various misunderstandings from all sides. It’s gonna end well for all concerned, you wait and see. Stay tuned! &quot;

 Bullshit.

 If the &#039;Proposal&#039; isn&#039;t EXACTLY wht the labels want, they&#039;ll sue.
 If Justin doesn&#039;t &#039;obey&#039; them, they&#039;ll sue.

 They hold the Streaming radio stations in limbo too.
 The &#039;law&#039; the RIAA got pushed through allows them to take a ridiculous amount of
 money from the station owners ( far more than radio will ever need to pay ), but , purely
 out of the goodness of their hearts they are , heh, negotiating, deals with them, just like justin.

 It is a lot closer to extortion that negotiation.

 Things will turn out, as you say, but how is anybody&#039;s guess as of yet.

 PE Obama shutting the doors on the lobbyists is a step in the right direction,
 Ted stevens being ousted is another.

 We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Isn’t that great? The music execs after all *do* understand their business and are very receptive to new ideas! Read the rest of it here: <a href="http://muxtape.com/" rel="nofollow">http://muxtape.com/</a></p>
<p>It looks like the all the controversy about file sharing, lawsuits and so on are just all be based on various misunderstandings from all sides. It’s gonna end well for all concerned, you wait and see. Stay tuned! &#8221;</p>
<p> Bullshit.</p>
<p> If the &#8216;Proposal&#8217; isn&#8217;t EXACTLY wht the labels want, they&#8217;ll sue.<br />
 If Justin doesn&#8217;t &#8216;obey&#8217; them, they&#8217;ll sue.</p>
<p> They hold the Streaming radio stations in limbo too.<br />
 The &#8216;law&#8217; the RIAA got pushed through allows them to take a ridiculous amount of<br />
 money from the station owners ( far more than radio will ever need to pay ), but , purely<br />
 out of the goodness of their hearts they are , heh, negotiating, deals with them, just like justin.</p>
<p> It is a lot closer to extortion that negotiation.</p>
<p> Things will turn out, as you say, but how is anybody&#8217;s guess as of yet.</p>
<p> PE Obama shutting the doors on the lobbyists is a step in the right direction,<br />
 Ted stevens being ousted is another.</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: nigerian bank has money for YOU</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-884239</link>
		<dc:creator>nigerian bank has money for YOU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why dont they sue themselves for utorrent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why dont they sue themselves for utorrent</p>
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		<title>By: MuxMate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-883547</link>
		<dc:creator>MuxMate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, believe it or not, it seems like the music industry really isn&#039;t as bad as it&#039;s made out to be. Look, even Justin from Muxtape says so:

&quot;In May I had my first meeting with a major label, Universal Music Group. I went alone and prepared myself for the worst, having spent the last decade toeing the indie party line that the big labels were hopelessly obstinate luddites with no idea what was good for them. I’m here to tell you now that the labels understand their business a lot better than most people suspect, although they each have their own surprisingly distinct personality when it comes to how they approach the future. The gentlemen I met at Universal were incredibly receptive and tactful; I didn’t have to sell them on why Muxtape was good for them, they knew it was cool and just wanted to get paid. I sympathized with that. I told them I needed some time to get a proposal together and we left things in limbo.&quot;

Isn&#039;t that great? The music execs after all *do* understand their business and are very receptive to new ideas! Read the rest of it here: http://muxtape.com/

It looks like the all the controversy about file sharing, lawsuits and so on are just all be based on various misunderstandings from all sides. It&#039;s gonna end well for all concerned, you wait and see. Stay tuned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, believe it or not, it seems like the music industry really isn&#8217;t as bad as it&#8217;s made out to be. Look, even Justin from Muxtape says so:</p>
<p>&#8220;In May I had my first meeting with a major label, Universal Music Group. I went alone and prepared myself for the worst, having spent the last decade toeing the indie party line that the big labels were hopelessly obstinate luddites with no idea what was good for them. I’m here to tell you now that the labels understand their business a lot better than most people suspect, although they each have their own surprisingly distinct personality when it comes to how they approach the future. The gentlemen I met at Universal were incredibly receptive and tactful; I didn’t have to sell them on why Muxtape was good for them, they knew it was cool and just wanted to get paid. I sympathized with that. I told them I needed some time to get a proposal together and we left things in limbo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that great? The music execs after all *do* understand their business and are very receptive to new ideas! Read the rest of it here: <a href="http://muxtape.com/" rel="nofollow">http://muxtape.com/</a></p>
<p>It looks like the all the controversy about file sharing, lawsuits and so on are just all be based on various misunderstandings from all sides. It&#8217;s gonna end well for all concerned, you wait and see. Stay tuned!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17602/comment-page-1#comment-883263</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly the right thing for them to do:
   The more frivolous idiocy that surrounds the worthless legal fiction known as &quot;Intellectual Property&quot;, the less people will be willing to listen to apologists for it.  

   The best thing about patents is that they eventually expire.
   The worst thing about copyright is that people still think it&#039;s acceptable.  The only &quot;reform&quot; that will fix this type of bullshit is the complete abandonment of &quot;Intellectual Property&quot; as an idea.  

   Barring that, they&#039;ll -- vainly -- continue to scrabble desperately by doing shit like this, and only succeed in making themselves/their lobbyists/the whole notion of IP look even more virulently evil than it already is.

   They&#039;ve already alienated an entire generation of teends (interestingly, the demographic who formerly justified their expstence by buying shit like Milli Vanilli).  It&#039;s time for people to give up on the notion that State-backed monopolies are acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly the right thing for them to do:<br />
   The more frivolous idiocy that surrounds the worthless legal fiction known as &#8220;Intellectual Property&#8221;, the less people will be willing to listen to apologists for it.  </p>
<p>   The best thing about patents is that they eventually expire.<br />
   The worst thing about copyright is that people still think it&#8217;s acceptable.  The only &#8220;reform&#8221; that will fix this type of bullshit is the complete abandonment of &#8220;Intellectual Property&#8221; as an idea.  </p>
<p>   Barring that, they&#8217;ll &#8212; vainly &#8212; continue to scrabble desperately by doing shit like this, and only succeed in making themselves/their lobbyists/the whole notion of IP look even more virulently evil than it already is.</p>
<p>   They&#8217;ve already alienated an entire generation of teends (interestingly, the demographic who formerly justified their expstence by buying shit like Milli Vanilli).  It&#8217;s time for people to give up on the notion that State-backed monopolies are acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: CHRoNoSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHRoNoSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yes list all the artists who now just ended there carreers DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM
EVER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yes list all the artists who now just ended there carreers DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM<br />
EVER</p>
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		<title>By: CHRoNoSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHRoNoSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait they forgot to sue themselves
for utorrent OH yah
its not about money its about control we remember

damn i like those egg signs the local farmer put up
/me eats some
.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait they forgot to sue themselves<br />
for utorrent OH yah<br />
its not about money its about control we remember</p>
<p>damn i like those egg signs the local farmer put up<br />
/me eats some<br />
&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Makere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Makere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So can I sue the Car manufactors, Gun manufactors and Knife manufactors... plus the other stuff manufactors, because their products can kill, especially guns and knives are designed for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So can I sue the Car manufactors, Gun manufactors and Knife manufactors&#8230; plus the other stuff manufactors, because their products can kill, especially guns and knives are designed for it?</p>
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