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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-888477</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also this:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-takes-soulseek-to-court-081120/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Music Industry Takes Soulseek to Court&lt;/a&gt;

will they please die already....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also this:</p>
<p><a href="http://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-takes-soulseek-to-court-081120/" rel="nofollow">Music Industry Takes Soulseek to Court</a></p>
<p>will they please die already&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-888420</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to make a point, and wasn&#039;t sure where to post it..

the content we share, one thing is predominant, and actually 95%+,  because I have never seen much of a deviant.

everything we share, we rip the entry respects to the corporations that funded said content, (read, when they ACTUALLY start the movie, and sans placed ad crap, so &#039;Dark Knight&#039; has the warner bros (wanker asshats) intro, and the exit content (read, credits for artists, grips, songwriters, special effects, etc.) This is a sociological breakdown that all &#039;pirates&#039; give kudos to the blokes actually sweating it out to create. Does anyone really get how awesome this is?

stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to make a point, and wasn&#8217;t sure where to post it..</p>
<p>the content we share, one thing is predominant, and actually 95%+,  because I have never seen much of a deviant.</p>
<p>everything we share, we rip the entry respects to the corporations that funded said content, (read, when they ACTUALLY start the movie, and sans placed ad crap, so &#8216;Dark Knight&#8217; has the warner bros (wanker asshats) intro, and the exit content (read, credits for artists, grips, songwriters, special effects, etc.) This is a sociological breakdown that all &#8216;pirates&#8217; give kudos to the blokes actually sweating it out to create. Does anyone really get how awesome this is?</p>
<p>stw</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-888211</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was a tongue in cheeky bit, yet probably not far from &#039;his&#039; reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was a tongue in cheeky bit, yet probably not far from &#8216;his&#8217; reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-888172</link>
		<dc:creator>Mostly Harmless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surfer- I believe that Danny G and his cronies would LOVE to regulate home theater the way the article you link to suggests. However, I don&#039;t believe the article or the &quot;proposed bill&quot; are real...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surfer- I believe that Danny G and his cronies would LOVE to regulate home theater the way the article you link to suggests. However, I don&#8217;t believe the article or the &#8220;proposed bill&#8221; are real&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-888030</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan &quot;The Joker&quot; Glickman is quoted &gt;&gt;

&quot;Just because you buy a DVD to watch at home doesn&#039;t give you the right to invite friends over to watch it too. That&#039;s a violation of copyright and denies us the revenue that would be generated from DVD sales to your friends,&quot; said Glickman.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/11/home-theater-regulations.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MPAA Lobbying for Home Theater Regulations&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8220;The Joker&#8221; Glickman is quoted &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>&#8220;Just because you buy a DVD to watch at home doesn&#8217;t give you the right to invite friends over to watch it too. That&#8217;s a violation of copyright and denies us the revenue that would be generated from DVD sales to your friends,&#8221; said Glickman.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/11/home-theater-regulations.html" rel="nofollow">MPAA Lobbying for Home Theater Regulations</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tangledwebtech</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887923</link>
		<dc:creator>Tangledwebtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Hulu being listed as one of the cluprits of piracy totally discredits this article. Anybody who knows anything Hulu knows that it is a &quot;Closed&quot; system being that there is no peer to peer uploading of videos. Content is controlled by Hulu through agreements with the content providers. So if Hulu is pirating Warner Brother material they would have no defense such as YouTube and Veoh in that they are not responsible for what users upload and view. So whoever brought Hulu into this is stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Hulu being listed as one of the cluprits of piracy totally discredits this article. Anybody who knows anything Hulu knows that it is a &#8220;Closed&#8221; system being that there is no peer to peer uploading of videos. Content is controlled by Hulu through agreements with the content providers. So if Hulu is pirating Warner Brother material they would have no defense such as YouTube and Veoh in that they are not responsible for what users upload and view. So whoever brought Hulu into this is stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll admit I&#039;ve downloaded The Dark Knight cam, then the screener and also the dvdrip.  I saw it once in the theatre.  ANd will buy 2 of the dvds when they come out and will be the 2 or 3 dvd set so itll run me around 30 each.  So yes I&#039;m a pirate but will also have given them 70 bucks.

What people and studios dont realize that if people download their movie/music/whatever it should not be counted as a sale they lost.  The people that download it may have never wanted to buy the product in the first place.  Or even bother to rent it froma movie rental place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;ve downloaded The Dark Knight cam, then the screener and also the dvdrip.  I saw it once in the theatre.  ANd will buy 2 of the dvds when they come out and will be the 2 or 3 dvd set so itll run me around 30 each.  So yes I&#8217;m a pirate but will also have given them 70 bucks.</p>
<p>What people and studios dont realize that if people download their movie/music/whatever it should not be counted as a sale they lost.  The people that download it may have never wanted to buy the product in the first place.  Or even bother to rent it froma movie rental place.</p>
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		<title>By: nigerian bank has money for YOU</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887408</link>
		<dc:creator>nigerian bank has money for YOU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just 1.8 billion in losses , funny htey had another stat tha showed 5.4 million p2p going to 9.8 million users in canada.
The fact is that 50 cent levy world wide not only would cover it but make htem more then 1.8 billion

almost 5 times more then they claim they lost

Just 50 cents.
Imagine that if every govt got rid a Microsoft on govt computers and replaced them WITH FOSS LINUX.
not only would htat pay the 50 cents, but get your country more doctors, low taxes, lower tuition costs or eliminate them, and pay down national debts and stimulate innovation and the economy so much that this crap economy world wide would heal over night.

Will someone wake up? I doubt it the people in charge get handed bribe er lobby money and honestly they don&#039;t really care about us.
When a person become prime minister that isnt a lawyer and hasnt been a politician all there life then something will have gone right.

Seems Joe Bidens buddies are now pressuring Hraper to push this new law and i do not see on the NDP website anything about net neutrality or copyright , which would suggest the deal there is already done and its all cosmetic.

Canada sucks now and the rich will get insanly rich and the rest of us in 5 years won&#039;t be able to afford a dvd, let alone the player and or cds of music.

GOOD
STOP BUYING ANYTHING.

For CHRISTMAS SEND A MESSAGE TO THE MPAA/CRIA/RIAA DO NOT BUY.
go out for dinner at a local dinner and support the local economy instead of giving to people that dont need more.
Batman makes a billion dollars and they whine , It will never be enough.

Next law to come will be infringers will be sent to work camps in oil fields so the harper govt and there oil buddies can get slave labour.
YUP and then what will we all do? No auto sector left, no Tech jobs.
ALLL TOAST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just 1.8 billion in losses , funny htey had another stat tha showed 5.4 million p2p going to 9.8 million users in canada.<br />
The fact is that 50 cent levy world wide not only would cover it but make htem more then 1.8 billion</p>
<p>almost 5 times more then they claim they lost</p>
<p>Just 50 cents.<br />
Imagine that if every govt got rid a Microsoft on govt computers and replaced them WITH FOSS LINUX.<br />
not only would htat pay the 50 cents, but get your country more doctors, low taxes, lower tuition costs or eliminate them, and pay down national debts and stimulate innovation and the economy so much that this crap economy world wide would heal over night.</p>
<p>Will someone wake up? I doubt it the people in charge get handed bribe er lobby money and honestly they don&#8217;t really care about us.<br />
When a person become prime minister that isnt a lawyer and hasnt been a politician all there life then something will have gone right.</p>
<p>Seems Joe Bidens buddies are now pressuring Hraper to push this new law and i do not see on the NDP website anything about net neutrality or copyright , which would suggest the deal there is already done and its all cosmetic.</p>
<p>Canada sucks now and the rich will get insanly rich and the rest of us in 5 years won&#8217;t be able to afford a dvd, let alone the player and or cds of music.</p>
<p>GOOD<br />
STOP BUYING ANYTHING.</p>
<p>For CHRISTMAS SEND A MESSAGE TO THE MPAA/CRIA/RIAA DO NOT BUY.<br />
go out for dinner at a local dinner and support the local economy instead of giving to people that dont need more.<br />
Batman makes a billion dollars and they whine , It will never be enough.</p>
<p>Next law to come will be infringers will be sent to work camps in oil fields so the harper govt and there oil buddies can get slave labour.<br />
YUP and then what will we all do? No auto sector left, no Tech jobs.<br />
ALLL TOAST.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887383</link>
		<dc:creator>Mostly Harmless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Hulu? I&#039;m not all jumping up and down to defend them, but they don&#039;t host user submitted stuff? They host ad supported TV shows and movies and have obtained the blessings (paid through the nose for licensing) of the content &quot;owners&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Hulu? I&#8217;m not all jumping up and down to defend them, but they don&#8217;t host user submitted stuff? They host ad supported TV shows and movies and have obtained the blessings (paid through the nose for licensing) of the content &#8220;owners&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887365</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081119-antipiracy-group-pushes-for-jail-time-for-online-infringers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAST wants 10 YEARS for UK IP Infringement&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;The IPO had stated previously that it would be &quot;taking forward&quot; the recommendations to ensure that the UK&#039;s intellectual property laws were fit for the digital age, which FAST took as a promise to implement all recommendations from the report. Now, however, the IPO does not appear to be including Recommendation 36 in the changes it&#039;s considering making to the law, which FAST considers to be a gross oversight.&quot;


FAST was quoted as saying, &quot;I cannot BELIEVE they circumvented our bullshit !!&quot;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081119-antipiracy-group-pushes-for-jail-time-for-online-infringers.html" rel="nofollow">FAST wants 10 YEARS for UK IP Infringement</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The IPO had stated previously that it would be &#8220;taking forward&#8221; the recommendations to ensure that the UK&#8217;s intellectual property laws were fit for the digital age, which FAST took as a promise to implement all recommendations from the report. Now, however, the IPO does not appear to be including Recommendation 36 in the changes it&#8217;s considering making to the law, which FAST considers to be a gross oversight.&#8221;</p>
<p>FAST was quoted as saying, &#8220;I cannot BELIEVE they circumvented our bullshit !!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887310</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my bad, its been like 15 years since I owned a VHS, never encountered any DRM then.

quote:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;This analog sort of copy protection was developed by Macrovision and worked as effective as nowadays DRMs&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

as for your quote above, I got the giggles for an hour over that one, maybe your &#039;effective&#039; ruler differs from mine.

Thanks for the laugh, Schmock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my bad, its been like 15 years since I owned a VHS, never encountered any DRM then.</p>
<p>quote:<br />
<i>&#8220;This analog sort of copy protection was developed by Macrovision and worked as effective as nowadays DRMs&#8221;</i></p>
<p>as for your quote above, I got the giggles for an hour over that one, maybe your &#8216;effective&#8217; ruler differs from mine.</p>
<p>Thanks for the laugh, Schmock.</p>
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		<title>By: Schmock</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887306</link>
		<dc:creator>Schmock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Surfer,

you&#039;re mixing up something. The &quot;&#039;tape trick&#039;&quot; just protected the cassettes from being overwritten accidently. The broken tab had nothing to do with some kind of copy protection. If you had two VCRs, you could copy tape a) to b), even if a) lacked of tab. On the other hand, many commercial VHS tapes carried some kind of DRM, which came analog. This analog sort of copy protection was developed by Macrovision and worked as effective as nowadays DRMs. A little, cheap device between two VCRs, some kind of amplifier, helped against this kind of anal(og) restriction management ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Surfer,</p>
<p>you&#8217;re mixing up something. The &#8220;&#8216;tape trick&#8217;&#8221; just protected the cassettes from being overwritten accidently. The broken tab had nothing to do with some kind of copy protection. If you had two VCRs, you could copy tape a) to b), even if a) lacked of tab. On the other hand, many commercial VHS tapes carried some kind of DRM, which came analog. This analog sort of copy protection was developed by Macrovision and worked as effective as nowadays DRMs. A little, cheap device between two VCRs, some kind of amplifier, helped against this kind of anal(og) restriction management <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887300</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They forget &quot;Internal Leaks&quot; as a source on the first diagram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They forget &#8220;Internal Leaks&#8221; as a source on the first diagram</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887267</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MPAA is now getting legal papers ready to be served on YouTube and Hulu.

Not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MPAA is now getting legal papers ready to be served on YouTube and Hulu.</p>
<p>Not.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17614/comment-page-1#comment-887239</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DRM on VHS thats hilarious !!

Tape over the tab broken off in the back side and viola, you can copy it. Modern day DRM is about as secure as the VHS &#039;tape trick&#039;.

AWESOME article Jon, I hope Dan ‘The Joker’ Glickman gets to read it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRM on VHS thats hilarious !!</p>
<p>Tape over the tab broken off in the back side and viola, you can copy it. Modern day DRM is about as secure as the VHS &#8216;tape trick&#8217;.</p>
<p>AWESOME article Jon, I hope Dan ‘The Joker’ Glickman gets to read it</p>
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