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		<title>By: GigaTribe advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17615/comment-page-1#comment-914346</link>
		<dc:creator>GigaTribe advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here are some information for people who wonder if third party servers “simply manage the user identities list”.&lt;br /&gt;
For service provider:&lt;br /&gt;
- it&#039;s mandatory to log users connections. So GigaTribe knows who has been connected and when.&lt;br /&gt;
- it is illegal to monitor the content exchanged by users. GigaTribe has no right to check the files or the conversation exchanged (Not to mention it would make any sense at a commercial level).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some information for people who wonder if third party servers “simply manage the user identities list”.<br />
For service provider:<br />
- it&#8217;s mandatory to log users connections. So GigaTribe knows who has been connected and when.<br />
- it is illegal to monitor the content exchanged by users. GigaTribe has no right to check the files or the conversation exchanged (Not to mention it would make any sense at a commercial level).</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17615/comment-page-1#comment-887318</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GigaTribe is most likely a &#039;honey-pot&#039; (an enticing server explicitly designed to lure unaware users for ulterior purposes). The GOV is incredibly well known for using these types devices for entrapment, accusations and convictions. As for &#039;G&#039;s&#039; comment, absolutely correct, they track every IP and file movement within their domain. Companies like this open with great PR, then roll over on the first DMCA to cover their a$$es.

And for clarity, it is not a &lt;i&gt;true&lt;/i&gt; P2P. P2P stands for Peer to Peer, and direct connection between two end users using software to link the IPs together using a software application.

MAFIAA morons dubbed this GigaTribe offering as a &#039;cyberlocker&#039;, when infact, P2P&#039;ers describe this as a VHD. (virtual hard-drive). An example of this would be when Apple, Inc. included allocated space on .MAC accounts where we placed content and the links were distributed to file-share copyright material, software, music, or anything else that could be digitized. Apple, Inc. at one time was the largest hosting service of copyrighted material EVER, and this was 6 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GigaTribe is most likely a &#8216;honey-pot&#8217; (an enticing server explicitly designed to lure unaware users for ulterior purposes). The GOV is incredibly well known for using these types devices for entrapment, accusations and convictions. As for &#8216;G&#8217;s&#8217; comment, absolutely correct, they track every IP and file movement within their domain. Companies like this open with great PR, then roll over on the first DMCA to cover their a$$es.</p>
<p>And for clarity, it is not a <i>true</i> P2P. P2P stands for Peer to Peer, and direct connection between two end users using software to link the IPs together using a software application.</p>
<p>MAFIAA morons dubbed this GigaTribe offering as a &#8216;cyberlocker&#8217;, when infact, P2P&#8217;ers describe this as a VHD. (virtual hard-drive). An example of this would be when Apple, Inc. included allocated space on .MAC accounts where we placed content and the links were distributed to file-share copyright material, software, music, or anything else that could be digitized. Apple, Inc. at one time was the largest hosting service of copyrighted material EVER, and this was 6 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17615/comment-page-1#comment-887284</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now show me a software that doesn&#039;t use third party servers that &quot;simply manages the user identities list&quot;.  Private?  I think not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now show me a software that doesn&#8217;t use third party servers that &#8220;simply manages the user identities list&#8221;.  Private?  I think not!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17615/comment-page-1#comment-886641</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing to wonder is if the two or more parties can trace the other one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing to wonder is if the two or more parties can trace the other one.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17615/comment-page-1#comment-886392</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plug a one inch hole in the hoover dam, and another 6 foot hole appears.

file-sharing applications are popping up faster than the RIAA can send out pre-litigation letters.

I keep hearing these analogies from the MAFIAA, they read like this:

Criminalize owning of a vehicle, because it &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; be used in a bank robbery.

Criminalize owning of an external harddrive, because it &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; be used to store copyright material.

Hell, ban the internet, it could contribute to the &#039;Conspiracy to Defraud the Music Industry&#039;. omg!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plug a one inch hole in the hoover dam, and another 6 foot hole appears.</p>
<p>file-sharing applications are popping up faster than the RIAA can send out pre-litigation letters.</p>
<p>I keep hearing these analogies from the MAFIAA, they read like this:</p>
<p>Criminalize owning of a vehicle, because it <i>could</i> be used in a bank robbery.</p>
<p>Criminalize owning of an external harddrive, because it <i>could</i> be used to store copyright material.</p>
<p>Hell, ban the internet, it could contribute to the &#8216;Conspiracy to Defraud the Music Industry&#8217;. omg!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17615/comment-page-1#comment-886371</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PRESS RELEASE FROM RIAA

Here at newly formed RIAA (Reading Industries  - Formerly we called ourselves Publishers - Association of America) we are against this new thieving software.

This software is an additional assault on the reading industry. The assault started when libraries were invented by the Egyptians. It resulted in massive income losses for writers and their publishers, the hyeroglyphics copiers. As a result, libraries ended the first golden age of publishers. Then the printing press ended the second golden age of publishers.

Recently, at our last official meeting, an astonishing inconsistency in our legal system was described for the first time. Our legal adviser, Dr. James D. Lawless revealed in his very objective (commissioned by us) white paper that free file sharing is no different than book sharing, a legal activity for thousands of years. No one, not even our lobbyists, legislators and legal scholars had detected - or at least, publicly discussed - the similarity between libraries and file sharing. Clearly there is a contradiction in having public libraries and prohibiting file sharing.

Based on the previous facts we are creating a &quot;Ban the Library Omission&quot; to lobby for the banning of all libraries.

We strongly feel that all file sharing programs must be banned too, as they will lead to the end of the third golden age of publishers.

James D. Lawless Jr.
President 
Reading Industries Association of America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PRESS RELEASE FROM RIAA</p>
<p>Here at newly formed RIAA (Reading Industries  &#8211; Formerly we called ourselves Publishers &#8211; Association of America) we are against this new thieving software.</p>
<p>This software is an additional assault on the reading industry. The assault started when libraries were invented by the Egyptians. It resulted in massive income losses for writers and their publishers, the hyeroglyphics copiers. As a result, libraries ended the first golden age of publishers. Then the printing press ended the second golden age of publishers.</p>
<p>Recently, at our last official meeting, an astonishing inconsistency in our legal system was described for the first time. Our legal adviser, Dr. James D. Lawless revealed in his very objective (commissioned by us) white paper that free file sharing is no different than book sharing, a legal activity for thousands of years. No one, not even our lobbyists, legislators and legal scholars had detected &#8211; or at least, publicly discussed &#8211; the similarity between libraries and file sharing. Clearly there is a contradiction in having public libraries and prohibiting file sharing.</p>
<p>Based on the previous facts we are creating a &#8220;Ban the Library Omission&#8221; to lobby for the banning of all libraries.</p>
<p>We strongly feel that all file sharing programs must be banned too, as they will lead to the end of the third golden age of publishers.</p>
<p>James D. Lawless Jr.<br />
President<br />
Reading Industries Association of America</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17615/comment-page-1#comment-886331</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s enterprisey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s enterprisey!</p>
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