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		<title>By: mentor</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-905870</link>
		<dc:creator>mentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Two caveats I see:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.  The cost is way too high for just blocking some P2P filesharing, IMO. Really, if this technology is needed to enhance revenue of record producers, they could find an affordable and efficient way to accomplish their objective on their own nickel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2.  Such an expensive infrastructure at taxpayer expense makes me feel that RIAA, et. al. are acting as a front for a massive data monitoring and gathering system, at taxpayer expense, which can destroy any semblance of privacy, and completely throttle communication at a politician&#039;s whim.  So much for &quot;Freedom of Speech&quot;! Under this pretense, even encryption of private messages between individuals may be interpreted as &quot;deliberate and malicious circumvention of copy protection means&quot; under the DMCA.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two caveats I see:</p>
<p>1.  The cost is way too high for just blocking some P2P filesharing, IMO. Really, if this technology is needed to enhance revenue of record producers, they could find an affordable and efficient way to accomplish their objective on their own nickel.</p>
<p>2.  Such an expensive infrastructure at taxpayer expense makes me feel that RIAA, et. al. are acting as a front for a massive data monitoring and gathering system, at taxpayer expense, which can destroy any semblance of privacy, and completely throttle communication at a politician&#8217;s whim.  So much for &#8220;Freedom of Speech&#8221;! Under this pretense, even encryption of private messages between individuals may be interpreted as &#8220;deliberate and malicious circumvention of copy protection means&#8221; under the DMCA.</p>
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		<title>By: dan tynan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-888120</link>
		<dc:creator>dan tynan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey jon.

nice post. I add my own two cents on the RIAA and how it must be beaten into submission here: http://blogs.computerworld.com/riaa_tax

cheers,

dt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey jon.</p>
<p>nice post. I add my own two cents on the RIAA and how it must be beaten into submission here: <a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/riaa_tax" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.computerworld.com/riaa_tax</a></p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>dt</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ermich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-887734</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Another bailout for faltering corporate giants.  No offense, Jon, but how exactly is this newsworthy?
    It&#039;s obvious that -- despite the cartoonish inanities of our erstwhile pal &quot;Sam&quot; -- The &quot;capitalist&quot; class in this country -- and probably everywhere else -- would be scared shitless by a genuinely &quot;Free&quot; market.

   Ask just about any &quot;Free market&quot; apologist, and you learn very quickly that the only &quot;government interventions&quot; they don&#039;t like are those which inconvenience them/empower their employees/keep people safe/hold them responsible for their company&#039;s actions.

   They hate safety regs, and the most hard-core of them (self-described &quot;Libertarians&quot; and &quot;Objectivists&quot; mostly, but a goodly swath of Republicans as well) explicitly defend the &quot;right&quot; of places like restaurants and hotels to discriminate against racial minorities.  

   Patents and copyright are ALL ABOUT the State dictating who is permitted to use &quot;content&quot; -- up to and including business models and parts of the human genome.

   And, lest we all forget this fact, when they&#039;ve raped and pillaged and destroyed as much as they can possibly destroy, THEN they run to the government for multi-billion dollar bailouts.  

   I wonder if government subsidized the buggy-whip industry, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Another bailout for faltering corporate giants.  No offense, Jon, but how exactly is this newsworthy?<br />
    It&#8217;s obvious that &#8212; despite the cartoonish inanities of our erstwhile pal &#8220;Sam&#8221; &#8212; The &#8220;capitalist&#8221; class in this country &#8212; and probably everywhere else &#8212; would be scared shitless by a genuinely &#8220;Free&#8221; market.</p>
<p>   Ask just about any &#8220;Free market&#8221; apologist, and you learn very quickly that the only &#8220;government interventions&#8221; they don&#8217;t like are those which inconvenience them/empower their employees/keep people safe/hold them responsible for their company&#8217;s actions.</p>
<p>   They hate safety regs, and the most hard-core of them (self-described &#8220;Libertarians&#8221; and &#8220;Objectivists&#8221; mostly, but a goodly swath of Republicans as well) explicitly defend the &#8220;right&#8221; of places like restaurants and hotels to discriminate against racial minorities.  </p>
<p>   Patents and copyright are ALL ABOUT the State dictating who is permitted to use &#8220;content&#8221; &#8212; up to and including business models and parts of the human genome.</p>
<p>   And, lest we all forget this fact, when they&#8217;ve raped and pillaged and destroyed as much as they can possibly destroy, THEN they run to the government for multi-billion dollar bailouts.  </p>
<p>   I wonder if government subsidized the buggy-whip industry, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tennessee must be rich if they can afford to flush this much cash with no discernible benefit to the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tennessee must be rich if they can afford to flush this much cash with no discernible benefit to the state.</p>
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		<title>By: make 'em pay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-887136</link>
		<dc:creator>make 'em pay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent Phil Bredesen a letter stating he owes the people $9,515,000/One-Time, $1,650,000/Recurring /FY08-09, $1,969,500/Recurring/FY09-10 and Succeeding Years, plus interest and damages for his illegal actions ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent Phil Bredesen a letter stating he owes the people $9,515,000/One-Time, $1,650,000/Recurring /FY08-09, $1,969,500/Recurring/FY09-10 and Succeeding Years, plus interest and damages for his illegal actions <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dude from Finland</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-886948</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude from Finland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thomas Tvivlaren

My questions were aimed more at the people who design and implement these measures than us here. I know what will happen once they implement these kind of measures all around. You got a bunch of people motivated to find any way to bypass that system. And I&#039;m not talking about any small number either. I&#039;m quite positive that these individuals/groups will find a way to bypass almost any Big Brother type of system, especially since they outnumber the service providers by 100 to 1 at least. As long as there is a will, there is a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thomas Tvivlaren</p>
<p>My questions were aimed more at the people who design and implement these measures than us here. I know what will happen once they implement these kind of measures all around. You got a bunch of people motivated to find any way to bypass that system. And I&#8217;m not talking about any small number either. I&#8217;m quite positive that these individuals/groups will find a way to bypass almost any Big Brother type of system, especially since they outnumber the service providers by 100 to 1 at least. As long as there is a will, there is a way.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Tvivlaren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Tvivlaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amazing info indeed! Here in Sweden we have had it up to here [stretching my arm to the ceiling] with MAFIAA and copyright lobbyists. At the time the EU-originating IPRED is to be implemented and large partions of the Swedish population is in an uproar similar to earlier this year when the FRA-surveillance law was passed (FRA is NSA:s Swedish liaison).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@Dude from Finland: I read what you write but perhaps with a little more positivity in mind...because can the motivation factor get any better? ;) The future looks bright. :) Then again, seeing how our politicians does not seem to grasp the conditions of the information era we might as well head into a time when Internet as we know it is no more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep up the good work!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas (member of the Swedish Pirate Party)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing info indeed! Here in Sweden we have had it up to here [stretching my arm to the ceiling] with MAFIAA and copyright lobbyists. At the time the EU-originating IPRED is to be implemented and large partions of the Swedish population is in an uproar similar to earlier this year when the FRA-surveillance law was passed (FRA is NSA:s Swedish liaison).</p>
<p>@Dude from Finland: I read what you write but perhaps with a little more positivity in mind&#8230;because can the motivation factor get any better? <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  The future looks bright. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Then again, seeing how our politicians does not seem to grasp the conditions of the information era we might as well head into a time when Internet as we know it is no more.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Thomas (member of the Swedish Pirate Party)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-886914</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>country music is not creativity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>country music is not creativity</p>
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		<title>By: Dude from Finland</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-886871</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude from Finland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more i read about these campus enforcement deals the more it makes me wonder in what direction they are pushing the little geniuses on campus. I mean get a campus full of IT people and block access to somethin they like and watch them go to work dismantling your system and building safeguards that you can&#039;t put it in place... ever again. These are the people who will design, build and implement the next gen of networks. Now ask yourself how do you want them to do that? What motivation do you want them to have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more i read about these campus enforcement deals the more it makes me wonder in what direction they are pushing the little geniuses on campus. I mean get a campus full of IT people and block access to somethin they like and watch them go to work dismantling your system and building safeguards that you can&#8217;t put it in place&#8230; ever again. These are the people who will design, build and implement the next gen of networks. Now ask yourself how do you want them to do that? What motivation do you want them to have?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-886730</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bredesen, ever heard of Peer Guardian? Of course not. Go kiss more music row butt, and waste our money, you fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bredesen, ever heard of Peer Guardian? Of course not. Go kiss more music row butt, and waste our money, you fool.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17623/comment-page-1#comment-886693</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A law pushed for by lobbyists who don&#039;t know anything about computers, passed by politicians who don&#039;t know anything about computers, and administrated by twenty-two screen monkeys who don&#039;t know anything about computers.  Just another easily circumvented anti-PvP boondoggle.

So why didn&#039;t Tennessee just give the money to the RIAA?  Well, maybe they did.  Let&#039;s follow the money.  If those monitoring software/hardware purveyors and twenty-two screen monkeys don&#039;t have recording industry connections, I&#039;ll be shocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A law pushed for by lobbyists who don&#8217;t know anything about computers, passed by politicians who don&#8217;t know anything about computers, and administrated by twenty-two screen monkeys who don&#8217;t know anything about computers.  Just another easily circumvented anti-PvP boondoggle.</p>
<p>So why didn&#8217;t Tennessee just give the money to the RIAA?  Well, maybe they did.  Let&#8217;s follow the money.  If those monitoring software/hardware purveyors and twenty-two screen monkeys don&#8217;t have recording industry connections, I&#8217;ll be shocked.</p>
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		<title>By: bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay!  go us!  :/  

so happy my state can protect private interests like this, and throw the public ones down the drain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay!  go us!  :/  </p>
<p>so happy my state can protect private interests like this, and throw the public ones down the drain.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they should make Phil Bredesen (read Asshat) pay the implementation. That would have put an instant kibosh on the this fantasy law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they should make Phil Bredesen (read Asshat) pay the implementation. That would have put an instant kibosh on the this fantasy law.</p>
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