sadly… you missed the point freeman and I do enjoy your comments most the time

I have seen both zeitgeists you are not introducing anything new. Even Jacques fresco can admit we will still need electricity until every person is fully self sustainable … even then their will alway be an abundance of electricity more than any other resource. Tthe computers are left on for a business I run however at night they are in ’standby’ mode (except the main server) but nonetheless they remain turned on. How do you think this particular website is run freeman? I assume you understand how servers work. The entire internet would not function the way it does without servers pumping queries and bandwidth 24/7 ?

“but not all people turn off their computer do you get it? so how am i wasting any extra electricity through throttling?”
- because you are still wasting electricity … and that’s Your fault!
- your intelligence speaks for it’s self

“… trying to merge it with environmentalism is not going to help give weight to the cause”
- WRONG! … it’s all part of it: business, abusive business, waste, neocons, elite, religions, WTO, IMF, restrictive laws, freedom of speech, duping the population, gun control, child porn, EVERYTHING!

FYI: this is a WAR! .. a war against all humans on Earth by the ruling class. Mainly backtracked to biggest bankers on the planet and their associates [governments, businesses, Vatican, Satanic cults, Scientology, tyrants, freemansuns above 3rd deg., jesuits, fundamentalists etc.]

try to watch Zeitgeist:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197&ei=qmgoSZexK5Lu-gGnpazzBg&q=zeitgeist&hl=en&dur=3

and :
Zeitgeist Addendum:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912&ei=A2koSe7DB5Lu-gGnpazzBg&q=zeitgeist+addendum&hl=en&dur=3

and Enki Sumerian Tablets Translation: [full 14 chapters and parts thereof]
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=enki+sumerian+tablet+translation&search_type=&aq=-1&oq=

and see the real FULL story.

When you’re done and Understand it come back and I’ll be glad to discuss it with you.
If you don’t I/we will understand that you are just another programmed little slave of elite tyrants satanic cult. As William Cooper would say “sheeple”

Enjoy

sorry, my bad., I thought I had a valid argument and never once called u names.

I rest MY case as well bigdaddy D.

You’ve just proved exactly me point! None of you know the etiquette to how Internet forums work so I’m off of this one and I’m complaining to the person running this website!

I’ve stated Internet forums are topic specific, why don’t you look up how there supposed to function: no going off topic, no spamming, no flaring (that’s intentionally insulting a poster for his/her opinion), etc. If you don’t follow the rules then you don’t have a forum, all you have is the equivalent is brick wall with gangsters spraying their vulgar graffiti over each other!

So I congratulate all of you for destroying this forum! Well done–now there’s no room for anyone to constructively add comments! You’ve single-handily destroyed what forums are about!

There is one common denominator in your plight Donald, its you. If you are consistently being insulted in EVERY forum you post to, then perhaps you should consider the fact that you might be the issue, and not the forums. Or are you the only one in the world smarter than a 5th grader, and everyone else in the world is not.

Better yet, get a life and stop posting to forums, and you won’t be insulted anymore. Get it?

Please dont forget whose bandwidth, disk space, and electricity your wasting with your rants. opinion +1

I’m sick and tired of inputting ideas to forums and being insulted! It doesn’t matter what forum I’m in, it could be about using a specific type of application but if I lay out point by point to somebody how to get a task done; always and I mean always there’s some A-holes who have to insult me! And the last 2 comments are typical, if it doesn’t apply to you then fine but don’t insult me! If I’m in a forum about Firefox 2 and then some A-hole says I’m an idiot–just update to Firefox 3! Or for example, people insult me when I’m taking about AVG Free, that’s the topic but I get insulted from jerks saying I’m a loser AVG sucks and they use something else!

So got it! The last 2 comments are absolutely useless, out of context and inapplicable to my topic but yet you A-holes have to insult me because you have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of money to BURN!!!! Well I don’t and that’s the topic! If this subject matter isn’t applicable to you then SHUT UP AND DON”T POST!!! That’s how forums work!!

AND YOU DON’T INSULT PEOPLE!!!!

If you have the luxury to keep you computer on 24/7 then you’re in the minority of people! I’m not a tree hugger, I don’t run my shower 24/7! I don’t run my stove 24/7! I don’t keep my TV on 24/7! I don’t keep my car engine running 24/7!

AND I DON’T KEEP MY COMPUTER RUNNING 24/7!!

and the intelligence card was well played considering you have no idea based on my comment what my education is.

1) Leaving on your computer longer causes you to use more electricity; true or false?

2) Answer: TRUE

3) So duh…I was saying if you’re being throttled by Bell, you need to leave your computer on longer to retrieve the same amount of information than if you weren’t being throttled!

4) So by Bell throttling everybody, more computers are running longer, therefore more electricity needs to be used and if you’re getting part or all of you’re electricity through coal, oil or natural gas fired power plants than more unnecessary carbon will be released into the environment!

GET IT NOW? Are smarter than a 5th grader?

I lost you at the global warming part. You can calculate the size of your carbon foot print in your mouth.

But really, why does bell/rogers get to decide what kind of internet traffic I use? and I agree with the blogger: the internet has developed an immune system.
Nice article Jon.

While we all await the CRTC’s decision on Bell Canada’s right to throttle third party ISP’s; I’ve thought of a very creative way to prevent Bell’s throttling. The world’s industrial countries are finally waking up to the impact of global warming and how we are overloading the planet’s ability to process this overload of CO2 emissions. Well Bell Canada is saying only a handful of people are using up 95% of its capacity (that’s too unbelievable to be true) via bit torrent usage, if that’s the case then Bell should be able to easily monitor the heavy users and throttle them but only slightly. However, Bell isn’t targeting a small minority of heavy users, I only use bit torrent occasionally and I’m throttled over 90%! Right now as I speak, I’m only getting 25 kB/s as my download speed but at peak times I’ll average 400 kB/s download (I have high-speed DSL)! I don’t keep my computer on continually but I’m forced to run my computer more hours, use more electricity, my hydro bills end up being more and I’m putting out more CO2 emissions by my unnecessary use of running my computer!

Bell Canada rather than just increasing its cabling capacity, which in fact as a sole monopoly of DSL lines should be mandated via its CRTC license to increase its Internet capacity to meet the need of Canadians; Bell is just trying to restrict usage! That’s like the province of Ontario being negligent to expanding the highway capacity so rather than build more highways and expand the lane capacity of the current highway system the Ontario government would severely restrict the capacity of the highways during peak hours–that’s not a solution. Just trying to restrict access to highways doesn’t solve the problem, it just piles onto the misery of the problems of traffic flow! Similarly, Bell Canada is just trying to hide under the covers rather than trying to increase its capacity to meet the ever increasing demand for the Internet by Canadians. Hiding under the covers isn’t going to solve the ever expanding demand of Internet users!

So my creative challenge is that in this era of carbon emission awareness by the public and the possibility of the federal government adding a carbon tax to consumers’ usage of greenhouse polluting energy; Bell’s throttling is forcing all Internet users into being energy hogs! The green movement is based on trying to accomplish the same tasks with less energy or should I say by using less carbon polluting energy sources. But I, as an electricity consumer only have one alternative, to use electricity that’s connected to the ‘grid’, these days it’s only the very few that have technology to maintain their home ‘off the grid’. Thus, when Bell throttles the average consumer such as myself, I’m forced to leave on my computer 3, 4 or even 5 times as long as I would if I wasn’t throttled in order to retrieve the same data from the Internet. So now if you multiply myself by the total amount of Canadians that are throttled by Bell Canada and if you then add up the enormous amount of extra kilowatt hours we are all forced to use because of Bell’s throttling–well that’s a hell of alot of unnecessary carbon loading to the planet!

So Bell’s throttling in the age of global warming awareness no longer just becomes a CRTC business decision but this now becomes an environmental decision! As a result, I believe Canadians can use legal environmental challenges against Bell’s decision to throttle! Throttling a few heavy users is one thing but Bell throttling every average Internet user such as myself is directly causing more greenhouse emissions to be dumped into the environment, thus Bell is guilty of advancing global warming! If anything, Bell should increase its Internet capacity and the speed users can access the Internet so as to allow Canadians to use the Internet faster and unplug their computers quicker! This could even become a slogan in the future, fast Internet: get on–get off and unplug!

What do you think?