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	<title>Comments on: Hollywood sues Australian ISP iiNet</title>
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		<title>By: middledigit</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17641/comment-page-1#comment-940772</link>
		<dc:creator>middledigit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I love freedom as much as the next guy/gal, and sure I would love everything for free...but, hey come on lets get back to the real world. Movies, Bands whatever all have producers, there job is to put up the $$$ and if they don&#039;t well then there are no new dvd&#039;s or cd&#039;s. 

About now a lot of people will be saying yeah but these &quot;producers&quot; get millions for nothing, they can afford to give stuff away. Ask yourself the question, if you invested in something and were lucky enough to get a return on that investment, would you share that with anyone on the internet...of course not. 

Which ever way you look at the piracy argument you end up with the same truth &quot;theft is theft&quot; and if someone steals this text it is still theft. in the end I guess there would be a lot let piracy if filmmakers stopped making films..and it could come to that. 

So please let&#039;s stop calling this a moral issue, let&#039;s stop calling it piracy (images of Johnny 
Depp) lets just call it what it is THEFT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I love freedom as much as the next guy/gal, and sure I would love everything for free&#8230;but, hey come on lets get back to the real world. Movies, Bands whatever all have producers, there job is to put up the $$$ and if they don&#8217;t well then there are no new dvd&#8217;s or cd&#8217;s. </p>
<p>About now a lot of people will be saying yeah but these &#8220;producers&#8221; get millions for nothing, they can afford to give stuff away. Ask yourself the question, if you invested in something and were lucky enough to get a return on that investment, would you share that with anyone on the internet&#8230;of course not. </p>
<p>Which ever way you look at the piracy argument you end up with the same truth &#8220;theft is theft&#8221; and if someone steals this text it is still theft. in the end I guess there would be a lot let piracy if filmmakers stopped making films..and it could come to that. </p>
<p>So please let&#8217;s stop calling this a moral issue, let&#8217;s stop calling it piracy (images of Johnny<br />
Depp) lets just call it what it is THEFT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jammit</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17641/comment-page-1#comment-905711</link>
		<dc:creator>Jammit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ironic how the people who manage channel 7 are off in hot pursuit of IInet given that:

The people hwo manage channel 7 -

Work in collusion with &quot;child psychologists&quot; to Deliberately target children - to pressure parents to buy them things; without which they will not be whole;

And they keep them glued to the screen, eating junk food, and buying what ever they are told too; while the people who manage channel 7 profit from raising crop after crop of feel good addicted fat and diseased consumers.

The people who manage channel 7 profit psychologically targeting peope to make them sick, and then they blame the government.

The people who manage channel 7 also sensationalise and trivialise matters of importance, and turn the act of getting things done into point scoring and popularity contests - playing enemies and allies mind games.

The people who manage channel 7 also promote car racing and the sales of gas guzzling &quot;keeping up with the Jones junk&quot; for a buck - even as we start to tumble into the precipice of no return....

They train people to medicate themselves into their graves with sex, food, drugs and gossip; keeping them glued to the screens - in order to make a buck - and then they say &quot;Oh aren&#039;t the people who we have shown how to do any thing for a buck bad&quot; when we can catch them out doing what we have been doing for decades......

Lying, cheating, miseading, manipulating adn robbing people... anything for a buck.

As the SS said, &quot;I was only following orders&quot; - and as long as the people who manage and work for channel 7 don&#039;t have to take personal responsibility for everything they have done - then they are no different to the nazis - and their responsibility shifting.

And in every individual in channel 7 doing everything they have done and not taking responsibility for it, and changing their ways - they are the ethical nazis of the past, today, tomorrow and the future - for all time.

If everyone had of said, &quot;No&quot; then there would have been no world war 2; and yet, here we are sailing through the cross roads saying &quot;What in the hell has happened - &quot;I made the car, I sold the car and I bought and drove the car..... - and as long as non of us have to take any person responsibility - none of us are to blame.&quot;

Oh wait a second.... there are lots of people watching stuff without paying for it... that&#039;s it - it&#039;s their fault - they are keeping us out of the money loop, they are keeping us from selling them junk food and keeping them glued to the screens, telling them that if they don&#039;t have the latest model gas guzzling car - they what will people think of them... they might think they are a loser, a failure - some one who couldn&#039;t make it.. up to the standards we set for them as being normal..

The fat, the diseased, the cancer ridden - from eating the shit we tell them too and not getting out and exercising....

The people who manage channel 7 are the liars and thieves. They steal life and health and self esteem - and destroy the planet - all in the name of a fast buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic how the people who manage channel 7 are off in hot pursuit of IInet given that:</p>
<p>The people hwo manage channel 7 -</p>
<p>Work in collusion with &#8220;child psychologists&#8221; to Deliberately target children &#8211; to pressure parents to buy them things; without which they will not be whole;</p>
<p>And they keep them glued to the screen, eating junk food, and buying what ever they are told too; while the people who manage channel 7 profit from raising crop after crop of feel good addicted fat and diseased consumers.</p>
<p>The people who manage channel 7 profit psychologically targeting peope to make them sick, and then they blame the government.</p>
<p>The people who manage channel 7 also sensationalise and trivialise matters of importance, and turn the act of getting things done into point scoring and popularity contests &#8211; playing enemies and allies mind games.</p>
<p>The people who manage channel 7 also promote car racing and the sales of gas guzzling &#8220;keeping up with the Jones junk&#8221; for a buck &#8211; even as we start to tumble into the precipice of no return&#8230;.</p>
<p>They train people to medicate themselves into their graves with sex, food, drugs and gossip; keeping them glued to the screens &#8211; in order to make a buck &#8211; and then they say &#8220;Oh aren&#8217;t the people who we have shown how to do any thing for a buck bad&#8221; when we can catch them out doing what we have been doing for decades&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Lying, cheating, miseading, manipulating adn robbing people&#8230; anything for a buck.</p>
<p>As the SS said, &#8220;I was only following orders&#8221; &#8211; and as long as the people who manage and work for channel 7 don&#8217;t have to take personal responsibility for everything they have done &#8211; then they are no different to the nazis &#8211; and their responsibility shifting.</p>
<p>And in every individual in channel 7 doing everything they have done and not taking responsibility for it, and changing their ways &#8211; they are the ethical nazis of the past, today, tomorrow and the future &#8211; for all time.</p>
<p>If everyone had of said, &#8220;No&#8221; then there would have been no world war 2; and yet, here we are sailing through the cross roads saying &#8220;What in the hell has happened &#8211; &#8220;I made the car, I sold the car and I bought and drove the car&#8230;.. &#8211; and as long as non of us have to take any person responsibility &#8211; none of us are to blame.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh wait a second&#8230;. there are lots of people watching stuff without paying for it&#8230; that&#8217;s it &#8211; it&#8217;s their fault &#8211; they are keeping us out of the money loop, they are keeping us from selling them junk food and keeping them glued to the screens, telling them that if they don&#8217;t have the latest model gas guzzling car &#8211; they what will people think of them&#8230; they might think they are a loser, a failure &#8211; some one who couldn&#8217;t make it.. up to the standards we set for them as being normal..</p>
<p>The fat, the diseased, the cancer ridden &#8211; from eating the shit we tell them too and not getting out and exercising&#8230;.</p>
<p>The people who manage channel 7 are the liars and thieves. They steal life and health and self esteem &#8211; and destroy the planet &#8211; all in the name of a fast buck.</p>
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		<title>By: nigerian bank has money for YOU</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17641/comment-page-1#comment-888282</link>
		<dc:creator>nigerian bank has money for YOU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya make carryingthat external hard drive to your buddies house worse crime hten a pound a heroin.
thats the next step
seriously how much shit are we gonna take befor esomeone gets up and literally starts punching actors/musicans  out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya make carryingthat external hard drive to your buddies house worse crime hten a pound a heroin.<br />
thats the next step<br />
seriously how much shit are we gonna take befor esomeone gets up and literally starts punching actors/musicans  out</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomecast</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17641/comment-page-1#comment-888094</link>
		<dc:creator>Comeoncomecast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and one more thing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Industry(From an article on ChillingEffects) tried to stop their own artists, guitarists from Sharing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Internet is an Opportunity&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and copyright laws should be ripped up&lt;br /&gt;
Is the PirateBay in the Guinness Book of Records? Jon?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and one more thing</p>
<p>The Industry(From an article on ChillingEffects) tried to stop their own artists, guitarists from Sharing</p>
<p>The Internet is an Opportunity</p>
<p>and copyright laws should be ripped up<br />
Is the PirateBay in the Guinness Book of Records? Jon?</p>
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		<title>By: J Canada</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17641/comment-page-1#comment-888083</link>
		<dc:creator>J Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG WOW,
&quot;With the latter in mind, at a recent movie industry pep talk in the UK, the MPAAâs FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft) made it clear Hollywood is  including borrowed and viewed movies and music in its anti-piracy statistics.&quot;

- did anyone else notice this, how exactly do you intend on finding stats on how many people borrow movies, music, etc?  I didnt know that making up stats was acceptible.   Did they bother checking that Canada, Australia, and the UK copyright act and see that even though MIPAA may want you to think that borrowing a movie is piracy, doesnt make it true.
- Cry Wolf Much?  - individuals and companies have rights to protect what they own.  But when are these groups going to stop trying to sue 13year olds for sharing music?  Enforce the laws that are valid in the countries you sell your product.
I noticed that you can pay more for new movies that come with a digital copy here in canada while our copyright act allows for -FairUse so you dont actually need that.
- I am tired of purchasing music and not being able to play it on my computer because the options is, if you want to use it on the computer, it has to use the custom program provided (which you may not find to be a big deal, but that means some stereos that are connected to PCs will only be able to output to 2 speakers instead of the actual amount you have =P.   However in Canada you are allowed to download songs (as the protection groups decided that every blank CD we buy, money is given to the music industry, so that backfired on them now didnt it?)
- Make Movies and Music affordible on mass, and it will not be cost efficient to pirate anything?  you would make more money in the long run sell DVDs for 5$ at most, more people would buy it and it wouldnt be worth the time to pirate anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG WOW,<br />
&#8220;With the latter in mind, at a recent movie industry pep talk in the UK, the MPAAâs FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft) made it clear Hollywood is  including borrowed and viewed movies and music in its anti-piracy statistics.&#8221;</p>
<p>- did anyone else notice this, how exactly do you intend on finding stats on how many people borrow movies, music, etc?  I didnt know that making up stats was acceptible.   Did they bother checking that Canada, Australia, and the UK copyright act and see that even though MIPAA may want you to think that borrowing a movie is piracy, doesnt make it true.<br />
- Cry Wolf Much?  &#8211; individuals and companies have rights to protect what they own.  But when are these groups going to stop trying to sue 13year olds for sharing music?  Enforce the laws that are valid in the countries you sell your product.<br />
I noticed that you can pay more for new movies that come with a digital copy here in canada while our copyright act allows for -FairUse so you dont actually need that.<br />
- I am tired of purchasing music and not being able to play it on my computer because the options is, if you want to use it on the computer, it has to use the custom program provided (which you may not find to be a big deal, but that means some stereos that are connected to PCs will only be able to output to 2 speakers instead of the actual amount you have =P.   However in Canada you are allowed to download songs (as the protection groups decided that every blank CD we buy, money is given to the music industry, so that backfired on them now didnt it?)<br />
- Make Movies and Music affordible on mass, and it will not be cost efficient to pirate anything?  you would make more money in the long run sell DVDs for 5$ at most, more people would buy it and it wouldnt be worth the time to pirate anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomecast</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17641/comment-page-1#comment-888082</link>
		<dc:creator>Comeoncomecast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and I think its ironic that MediaDefender cant Defend Media their Servers or Email Accounts&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that if a band set up a BT tracker with the[band]bay.com it would overload in the first couple hours and the ads would generate so much royalties&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I think its ironic that MediaDefender cant Defend Media their Servers or Email Accounts</p>
<p>I think that if a band set up a BT tracker with the[band]bay.com it would overload in the first couple hours and the ads would generate so much royalties</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomecast</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17641/comment-page-1#comment-888078</link>
		<dc:creator>Comeoncomecast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Masses use YouTube and the PirateBay everyday&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I dontt think they will be very happy he the Industy wanted to take down YouTube because they host a 30 second clip of a feature film&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I DONT have to remind you what happened to MediaDefnder&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Masses use YouTube and the PirateBay everyday</p>
<p>I dontt think they will be very happy he the Industy wanted to take down YouTube because they host a 30 second clip of a feature film</p>
<p>I DONT have to remind you what happened to MediaDefnder</p>
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