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	<title>Comments on: CRTC Bell Canada decision in full</title>
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		<title>By: KChan</title>
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		<dc:creator>KChan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is wrong with the ruling

Section III in regards to section 36 of the Act:  Basically altering and influence the meaning and purpose of telecommunication.

See by slowing down a P2P network you effectively diminish the reverences of the content or data.  So if you are receiving a news feed from a P2P network, by slowing the P2P network, the reverences of the news item is diminished because you are receiving later, or a more menacing example would be if a game was to disturbe a critical security patch via P2P network, then the it is critical that the content be deliver in a timely manner, but because Bell “has no knowledge of the content” the patch is down graded and you are open to a security breach.  Or if you buy a movie would you like to receive it full speed from (Bell-ER) or get it overnight from a distributor that uses P2P network.

This is the really weak part of the ruling since the CRTC never answer the concern of CAIP that slowing down a P2P file download will alter the purpose of the content.  And CIPPIC really hits the nail on the head in this case.  CIPPIC says 

“CIPPIC submitted that slowing down of certain file transfers, such as news programs, alters the meaning and purpose of telecommunications.”

And

“CIPPIC questioned how Bell Canada could assure the Commission that the purpose and meaning of content are undisturbed when it slows down the transfer rate for a P2P flow for which it does not know the nature of the content.”

Basically even though Bell is not altering the content of the P2P content, by slowing down the delivery Bell alter the purpose and the reverence of the content.

The commission never deals with CIPPIC’s concerns.

The commission just parrots Bell’s views that:

Bell don’t alter the content or editorialize the content 51 Bell 55 CRTC
It doesn’t really matter, the file will get there, eventually.  51 Bell 55-58 CRTC
CRTC totally missed the point that speed effect the reverence of the content….

There are more…

KC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is wrong with the ruling</p>
<p>Section III in regards to section 36 of the Act:  Basically altering and influence the meaning and purpose of telecommunication.</p>
<p>See by slowing down a P2P network you effectively diminish the reverences of the content or data.  So if you are receiving a news feed from a P2P network, by slowing the P2P network, the reverences of the news item is diminished because you are receiving later, or a more menacing example would be if a game was to disturbe a critical security patch via P2P network, then the it is critical that the content be deliver in a timely manner, but because Bell “has no knowledge of the content” the patch is down graded and you are open to a security breach.  Or if you buy a movie would you like to receive it full speed from (Bell-ER) or get it overnight from a distributor that uses P2P network.</p>
<p>This is the really weak part of the ruling since the CRTC never answer the concern of CAIP that slowing down a P2P file download will alter the purpose of the content.  And CIPPIC really hits the nail on the head in this case.  CIPPIC says </p>
<p>“CIPPIC submitted that slowing down of certain file transfers, such as news programs, alters the meaning and purpose of telecommunications.”</p>
<p>And</p>
<p>“CIPPIC questioned how Bell Canada could assure the Commission that the purpose and meaning of content are undisturbed when it slows down the transfer rate for a P2P flow for which it does not know the nature of the content.”</p>
<p>Basically even though Bell is not altering the content of the P2P content, by slowing down the delivery Bell alter the purpose and the reverence of the content.</p>
<p>The commission never deals with CIPPIC’s concerns.</p>
<p>The commission just parrots Bell’s views that:</p>
<p>Bell don’t alter the content or editorialize the content 51 Bell 55 CRTC<br />
It doesn’t really matter, the file will get there, eventually.  51 Bell 55-58 CRTC<br />
CRTC totally missed the point that speed effect the reverence of the content….</p>
<p>There are more…</p>
<p>KC</p>
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		<title>By: KChan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17643/comment-page-1#comment-888077</link>
		<dc:creator>KChan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O, Fuck, O Fuck, O Fuck... 
I&#039;m reading this over coffee at work, (and I shouldn&#039;t but here is a quick note)

Looks like the CRTC bought entire Bell&#039;s line:

ie. in section III re: violation of Section 26

Point 51 Bell denies editorial control, but the indies didn&#039;t mention anything about editorial control, just unfair advantages to P2P delivery of content (content, not just TV or music, but games updates)

And the commission ogress with Bell, at point 55 Guess what we are not talking about editorial, we are talking about the timly delivery of content.....    Dumb F&amp;(*()s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, Fuck, O Fuck, O Fuck&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m reading this over coffee at work, (and I shouldn&#8217;t but here is a quick note)</p>
<p>Looks like the CRTC bought entire Bell&#8217;s line:</p>
<p>ie. in section III re: violation of Section 26</p>
<p>Point 51 Bell denies editorial control, but the indies didn&#8217;t mention anything about editorial control, just unfair advantages to P2P delivery of content (content, not just TV or music, but games updates)</p>
<p>And the commission ogress with Bell, at point 55 Guess what we are not talking about editorial, we are talking about the timly delivery of content&#8230;..    Dumb F&amp;(*()s</p>
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