CRTC Bell Canada ruling: what the media say
p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- CRTC backs Bell Canada traffic throttling, said p2pnet’s headline on the news that, “Canada’s telecom regulator has denied a complaint brought forth by a consortium of independent Internet service companies over how Bell Canada manages or ’shapes’ Web traffic on the network space which it leases to third-party providers,” as the Globe and Mail sums it up in CRTC denies Internet ‘traffic shaping’ complaint. It goes on, “But the regulator is planning public proceedings to examine the traffic management techniques of Canadian telecom companies.”
CRTC Rules Against Indie ISPs In Throttling Dispute, is the dslreports take: [CRTC chairman Konrad von] “Finckenstein appears to not understand either the definition of discriminatory, or how throttling wholesale ISPs (not just resellers) kills off Bell competition on multiple fronts. Bell’s decision effectively eliminated the right of independent wholesale ISPs to offer an un-crippled connection if they’re willing to pay for the bandwidth. It also gives Bell Canada’s un-throttled video store an unfair advantage over Canada’s more limited field of competing P2P Internet video services.”
CRTC Denies CAIP Application on Throttling, But Sets Net Neutrality Hearing, says Michael Geist’s post, continuing: “Bell comes out a winner in this round. The Commission found that there was network congestion due to P2P usage and that some network management is required to address it. Moreover, it rejected the competition concerns noting that there was no evidence that Bell’s action had lessened competition and it concluded that reducing speeds does not rise to the level of controlling content. While the CRTC’s decision to permit Bell’s throttling practices is disappointing in the short term – and seems to place Canada on a different track from the U.S. – the decision is not a total loss for net neutrality supporters as the Commission made a clear commitment to addressing the issue of net neutrality and network management in a formal proceeding in July 2009. Indeed, it is important not to lose sight of how much has changed in the past year.”
Meanwhile, CRTC allows Bell to continue internet throttling, says the CBC: “Bell Canada Inc. is not breaking any laws by slowing internet speeds and will be allowed to continue throttling its customers, the CRTC has ruled. The phone company, Canada’s biggest internet service provider with two million high-speed customers, has shown that it needs to be able to manage its network in order to prevent congestion, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission said in a decision released Thursday. Bell will therefore be able to continue slowing the internet access it sells to smaller wholesale companies, as well as to its own retail subscribers. The company will be required to give its wholesale customers 30 days notice when it wants to implement changes to its network management practices.
“Bell Canada Inc. will not have to suspend its practice of “shaping” traffic on the Internet after a group of companies that resell access to Bell’s network complained their customers were also being negatively affected. The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission today released a decision that denied the Canadian Association of Internet Providers’ request that Bell be ordered to cease its application of the practice to its wholesale customers. But the CRTC did rule that Bell will now have to give the resellers at least 30 days notice before it makes future changes that affect the performance of that part of the network.”
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November 20th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
The end of the free internet.
November 20th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
CTV (Bell-ER) Piece sound almost reasonable…. Got to get back to work…
KC
November 20th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Just cause Bell obviously has someone at the CRTC in it’s back pocket, Bell is still really guity of Deceptive, unacceptable, unfair Business trade practices , plus an unreliable Internet access and Bell had failed to meet, honor ir’s contractual obligations under Contract law.
Vigilance, continual Vigilance is need in all areas of life it seems cause otherwise our rights are abused, overlooked, falsely censored even. Such as the ISP, Internet service providers obligations to their customers, contractual agreements, On top of that there is no question that many major Internet corporations profit have also been built on the back of free labor, the free contributors. Which they tend to no longer appreciated and restrict falsely access to many of these sites now instead. Ever discover that while the main search engines will readily give you a list of sites, that you may next have difficulties accessing many of these sites next ands why is that? The access and the speed aren’t too bad but still only during certain, limited portions of day or night. Such internet traffic management is really really unacceptable.
I too have discovered often that while I personally do also have many blogs, internet sites, next my own accessibility to these sites is it seems unnecessary restricted, difficult, and one of the main valid explanations as many of us already do know is the false periodic unacceptable capping, throttling, access restrictions, by the ISP, internet Service Suppliers themselves. I too now do have no sympathy for almost any of ISPs. They firstly do still to often lie lie to get customers and next when they get them they cannot honor, keep their original promises, promised speeds and capacities It’s one thing to gouge us all with continual increase rates but not to keep also same promised original service. No, no, no. ISPs are not only raising their rates but still also decreasing their services and the quality of it as well..
For if they were to invest in newer, better infrastructure to raise capacity, they would even get more customers. It’s much, much cheaper to throttle torrent traffic or do nothing than it is to expand the overused, obsolete infrastructure. If even Microsoft, corporations, companies & governments are distributing more and more content through the internet then all of the ISPs have to keep up to date and increase their capacity in response. Other countries are embracing this, and have brighter economic futures & control, profitability, consumer satisfactions as well.
Time for just more of our complaining, talking over and over again is done, rather real actions is required now even by the governments to protect the consumers.
“A lawsuit filed against Apple and AT&T on November 4, 2008 charging misrepresentation of the 3G speed of the iPhone on AT&T’s network, has also been amended with an additional charge. The new charge claims the iPhone develops hairline cracks in the housing. Filed in the United States District Court, Eastern District of New York, Avi Koschitzki claims in the amended charge that hairline cracks in the casing of the iPhone constitute unfair practices under the New York Deceptive Practices Act. Koschitzki said the cracks appear around the camera and near the volume button on the side of the iPhone.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/154018/apple_sued_for_hairline_cracks_in_the_iphone.html
Now we all can know that driving a sports car on an empty road produces a different speed from that when driving on the same road during peak traffic hours.
Now this Mis-advertisement of the actual speeds attained also reflects the common problem we tend to have also in Canada with the false, misleading advertising, trade practices by Bell, Rogers, Videotron in regard to the speeds of their iphone and DSL, ADSL, cable internet services. These Communication, ISP firms amongst others are known to inflate, advertise substantially higher speeds than the consumer will actual get next get on the average, and the next related internet congestion cause web connectivity problems, and also reductions of the downloads speeds too..
Now what about having now the much need real consumer protections for the citizens of Canada here as well from the greedy, lying, no good corporations?
“The initial lawsuit claims that Apple and AT&T misrepresented the speed of the iPhone on AT&T’s 3G network. The suit claims insufficient infrastructure of the network and the fact that so many phones have been sold that it can’t handle the volume of phones trying to use it. “Due to the overloaded 3G network, it is quite common for iPhone users to only be on the 3G network for a few minutes before being bumped to the slower EDGE network despite being in geographical areas allegedly rich with 3G network coverage,” reads the lawsuit.
The lawsuit is seeking a jury trial where they are asking for statutory, compensatory and punitive damages.”
72 percent of businesses say they would change ISP if their Internet connection became unreliable. The independent research carried out by Shape the Future Limited on behalf of Zen Internet, the award winning ISP, surveyed over a 1,000 Small Medium Enterprises (SMEs) between September and October.
An important decisive factor for SMEs is the level of support provided by ISPs: 85 percent stated that the level of support was the most important criteria when choosing an ISP while the highest number of respondents, 80 per cent, considers UK based support to be very important. Some ISP providers have been criticised for taking telephone support overseas and cutting staffing costs.
Just over half of those asked, 55 per cent were happy with their current supplier and were unlikely to change, 45 percent are unhappy. and 68 per cent had not changed ISP in the last year but 13 per cent are considering changing ISP at present.
When they do, it’s mainly when there are issues with reliability, quality of service, cost or for higher speeds. It was found that 72 per cent of SMEs said they would change provider because of unreliable connection, but note only 40 per cent would change to save money.
98 per cent of SMEs consider reliable Internet access to be critical to the needs of their business. 71 per cent of SMEs thought it was important that their ISP was business orientated, as 80 per cent use the Web to locate suppliers and 76 per cent use it for purchasing activities.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/153974/small_businesses_to_isps_deliver_or_well_switch.html
November 20th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
to some up the guy above
go get an egg and throw it right at a bell van
whenthey get scared maybe then we get our internet back
become an eggorist today ( oh ya supporting local farmers also!! )
/end sarcasm
November 20th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
oh and look up the legal definition of
Misrepresentation
sound like any companies you know of?
Tape record everything these jerks say.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:09 am
I think this picture best describes what the nonconformer was conveying about ISP advertising.
http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/magoo5018/?action=view¤t=rukiddingrogers.png
November 21st, 2008 at 1:10 am
jon feel free to use this image http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/magoo5018/?action=view¤t=rukiddingrogers.png
November 21st, 2008 at 1:21 am
This is pure evidence that the CRTC is corrupt and against the Canadian consumer. An investigation needs to be launched ASAP!!!
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Quote:
Moreover, it rejected the competition concerns noting that there was no evidence that Bell’s action had lessened competition and it concluded that reducing speeds does not rise to the level of controlling content.
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Reducing speeds lowers possible demand. Lowering possible demand controls the content. They fail to realize this?