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	<title>Comments on: Banned Apple TV ad: fact vs fiction</title>
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		<title>By: f4te</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17728/comment-page-1#comment-900370</link>
		<dc:creator>f4te</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apple fail. once again. lies and deciet. &#039;im a pc im a mac&#039;, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apple fail. once again. lies and deciet. &#8216;im a pc im a mac&#8217;, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: kirasaw</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17728/comment-page-1#comment-899729</link>
		<dc:creator>kirasaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about car ads that show YOU going across county in 30 sec!  What about beer ads that show you getting hot chicks cause you drink a certain beer!  Of course none of this matters. You have to remember we are talking Britain here. After you expect the government to take care of you for so long then people become even more needy of government care. And in Britain like in most of western Europe the government is now like a nanny to a 2 year old. No don&#039;t watch that TV ad you might actually believe that everything on TV is fact and that TV ads never lie and &quot;time lapse&quot; ohhhhhhh don&#039;t even thing about it you will never understand that! the government is here to care for you just pay us huge taxes and let us take care of you so you don&#039;t have to think for youself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about car ads that show YOU going across county in 30 sec!  What about beer ads that show you getting hot chicks cause you drink a certain beer!  Of course none of this matters. You have to remember we are talking Britain here. After you expect the government to take care of you for so long then people become even more needy of government care. And in Britain like in most of western Europe the government is now like a nanny to a 2 year old. No don&#8217;t watch that TV ad you might actually believe that everything on TV is fact and that TV ads never lie and &#8220;time lapse&#8221; ohhhhhhh don&#8217;t even thing about it you will never understand that! the government is here to care for you just pay us huge taxes and let us take care of you so you don&#8217;t have to think for youself.</p>
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		<title>By: No iPhone 4U!</title>
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		<dc:creator>No iPhone 4U!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under ideal conditions, any product will preform as advertized. Dood!

Under ideal conditions, the Big Mac you buy will look EXACTLY — as it does on the menu board, as it does in the box. Has any of the ones you&#039;ve bought, looked so good.

Under ideal conditions, you could drive your new Mazda down a winding road at break neck speeds. Have you ever been on such a perfect road?

Under ideal conditions, these anti-Apple hit pieces will garner plenty of ad-viewing eyeballs. You got me here. 

Tho&#039;, I&#039;ve ignored the ads. I don&#039;t need anti-spyware software. Even IF it&#039;s the most advanced. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under ideal conditions, any product will preform as advertized. Dood!</p>
<p>Under ideal conditions, the Big Mac you buy will look EXACTLY — as it does on the menu board, as it does in the box. Has any of the ones you&#8217;ve bought, looked so good.</p>
<p>Under ideal conditions, you could drive your new Mazda down a winding road at break neck speeds. Have you ever been on such a perfect road?</p>
<p>Under ideal conditions, these anti-Apple hit pieces will garner plenty of ad-viewing eyeballs. You got me here. </p>
<p>Tho&#8217;, I&#8217;ve ignored the ads. I don&#8217;t need anti-spyware software. Even IF it&#8217;s the most advanced. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17728/comment-page-1#comment-899658</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Al Says

Dude, before rushing to Apple&#039;s defense and looking for scapegoats and conspiracies, how about stopping and actually *thinking*?

Apple&#039;s ad is for the 3G iPhone and that it&#039;s faster because it&#039;s on 3G, as opposed to the first gen which was EDGE. So it&#039;s not supposed to be running WiFi. When you&#039;re using 3G, the actions in the commercial *cannot* be done in the time frame shown. It&#039;s simply not possible. It&#039;s barely possible on WiFi.

That&#039;s why the ad got banned. It was misleading.

&quot;But all ads are misleading...&quot;

Yes,  to a degree - but the line is &quot;would the average viewer be able to tell it&#039;s misleading?&quot;

A beer ad that shows a fat guy being swamped by pretty women because he slugged back a Coors - most of us realise is utter rubbish. The Apple ad, on the other hand, shows a completely reasonable sequence of tasks done in a completely unreasonably fast time in a way that for the average person, looks believable.

That&#039;s fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Al Says</p>
<p>Dude, before rushing to Apple&#8217;s defense and looking for scapegoats and conspiracies, how about stopping and actually *thinking*?</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s ad is for the 3G iPhone and that it&#8217;s faster because it&#8217;s on 3G, as opposed to the first gen which was EDGE. So it&#8217;s not supposed to be running WiFi. When you&#8217;re using 3G, the actions in the commercial *cannot* be done in the time frame shown. It&#8217;s simply not possible. It&#8217;s barely possible on WiFi.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the ad got banned. It was misleading.</p>
<p>&#8220;But all ads are misleading&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes,  to a degree &#8211; but the line is &#8220;would the average viewer be able to tell it&#8217;s misleading?&#8221;</p>
<p>A beer ad that shows a fat guy being swamped by pretty women because he slugged back a Coors &#8211; most of us realise is utter rubbish. The Apple ad, on the other hand, shows a completely reasonable sequence of tasks done in a completely unreasonably fast time in a way that for the average person, looks believable.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which WiFi network protocol did they use? Was it hooked up to a cable modem? Dial up? Very high speed broadband? There is WiFi out there that could deliver it that fast. PC Pro may just have a vested interest. Can you say Windows Mobile?

Now you know as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which WiFi network protocol did they use? Was it hooked up to a cable modem? Dial up? Very high speed broadband? There is WiFi out there that could deliver it that fast. PC Pro may just have a vested interest. Can you say Windows Mobile?</p>
<p>Now you know as well.</p>
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