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		<title>By: Not as good as we want it to be</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not as good as we want it to be</dc:creator>
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MySQL creator: version 5.1 released with &quot;fatal bugs&quot;

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&quot;&quot;We still have 20 known and tagged crashing and wrong result bugs in 5.1 [and] 35 more if we add the known crashing bugs from 5.0 that are likely to also be present in 5.1,&quot; he wrote. &quot;It&#039;s of course impossible to get all issues fixed, but we should at least have tried to ensure that all issues important to a lot of MySQL developers and MySQL users should have been discussed, fixed and/or addressed in a public manner! We should also never have a single serious crashing/wrong data bug in a GA release.&quot;&quot;

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&quot;Despite the alleged friction between prominent MySQL developers and Sun management, Widenius contends that Sun was not responsible for the failures behind the 5.1 release. He blames Mårten Mickos, the senior vice president of Sun&#039;s database group and former CEO of MySQL AB. According to Widenius, Mickos no longer treats quality as a priority and unilaterally chose a premature GA release date because &quot;he needs something he can sell.&quot; &quot;

&quot;I would like to point out that the current release is not something that can be said to be fault of Sun. The decisions to do a GA release was solely been made by the MySQL management in Sun,&quot; Widenius wrote. &quot;We have changed the release model so that instead of focusing on quality and features our release is now defined by timeliness and features.&quot;</description>
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<p>MySQL creator: version 5.1 released with &#8220;fatal bugs&#8221;</p>
<p>Quote 1:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;We still have 20 known and tagged crashing and wrong result bugs in 5.1 [and] 35 more if we add the known crashing bugs from 5.0 that are likely to also be present in 5.1,&#8221; he wrote. &#8220;It&#8217;s of course impossible to get all issues fixed, but we should at least have tried to ensure that all issues important to a lot of MySQL developers and MySQL users should have been discussed, fixed and/or addressed in a public manner! We should also never have a single serious crashing/wrong data bug in a GA release.&#8221;"</p>
<p>Quote 2:</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite the alleged friction between prominent MySQL developers and Sun management, Widenius contends that Sun was not responsible for the failures behind the 5.1 release. He blames Mårten Mickos, the senior vice president of Sun&#8217;s database group and former CEO of MySQL AB. According to Widenius, Mickos no longer treats quality as a priority and unilaterally chose a premature GA release date because &#8220;he needs something he can sell.&#8221; &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I would like to point out that the current release is not something that can be said to be fault of Sun. The decisions to do a GA release was solely been made by the MySQL management in Sun,&#8221; Widenius wrote. &#8220;We have changed the release model so that instead of focusing on quality and features our release is now defined by timeliness and features.&#8221;</p>
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