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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;We&#8217;re not RIAA factotums&#8217;: Vanderbilt U</title>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah thats true. I like to take pride when I buy something and be able to say yer dude I brought that game. But I do not want to buy crap. I mean if I can not play the game as much as I want, regardless of the fact that I will only play the campaighn once and the multiplayer experience won&#039;t last forever I still demmand my right to play it as much as I want. Its the point that counts. DRM sucks, I most likely wont play a 10year old game but it is nice to know that I can play a game I buy for as long as I want. If I can not share music or it comes in a restrictive drm burdened format then it to is pointless. DRM makes a product non-user friendly. Most of the games with drm in are released on the internet with all their drm and spyware removed within a day after its launch and some weeks before its offical release date. So DRM is pointless. DRM is only targeted at non pirating people who may want to say share a game cd with a mate. You know go halfs or buy one and let them use it etc. Say you have a cool game and you just have to show it to your friends. That is what drm is fighting. Because 3 activations makes someone think about giving one of those away. And if they do they only have 3 of them. But thats pointless.

DRM is pointless because for multiplayer you have 2 options. Option 1 is where you own a pirated version of a game and you can not play on multiplayer mode, but if someone has a cracked server you can play on that server. Option 2 is where you have the legit copy and you can play on any server. Now people who really like the game, have a good enough pc, or console, have the money, and the time will go for optioon 2 and buy the game. So as long as the multiplayer experience is good enough they will pay. Now that bassicly makes singleplayer into a sort of demo. Pirate the game, play the demo, keep the copy of the demo and ethier buy or do not buy the real game. Adding drm to the real game makes someone think twice before buying the game. It means that mostpeople will probably chew through their activations and then go onto a new game leaving multiplayer deserted. Allso means that the gamewill have less people on multiplayer. ANd it means that your paying for more than your getting. 

Now an anti-piracy class which esentailly teaches us that &quot;piracy&quot; or &quot;sharing&quot; is bad and wrong is disgracefull. Imagine how anoyed people would be if they started that in pre-school by saying to kids that &quot;no thats your toy, he/she can get their parents to buy another from us&quot; and &quot;remember sharing is bad&quot;. People would be mad if they where teaching that to their kids at pre-school and then they come home and start fighting and saying this is my toy by your own. Well WTF why arent people upset at this. Next they will be teaching them that it is everyone for themselvs abnd that you gota be mean to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah thats true. I like to take pride when I buy something and be able to say yer dude I brought that game. But I do not want to buy crap. I mean if I can not play the game as much as I want, regardless of the fact that I will only play the campaighn once and the multiplayer experience won&#8217;t last forever I still demmand my right to play it as much as I want. Its the point that counts. DRM sucks, I most likely wont play a 10year old game but it is nice to know that I can play a game I buy for as long as I want. If I can not share music or it comes in a restrictive drm burdened format then it to is pointless. DRM makes a product non-user friendly. Most of the games with drm in are released on the internet with all their drm and spyware removed within a day after its launch and some weeks before its offical release date. So DRM is pointless. DRM is only targeted at non pirating people who may want to say share a game cd with a mate. You know go halfs or buy one and let them use it etc. Say you have a cool game and you just have to show it to your friends. That is what drm is fighting. Because 3 activations makes someone think about giving one of those away. And if they do they only have 3 of them. But thats pointless.</p>
<p>DRM is pointless because for multiplayer you have 2 options. Option 1 is where you own a pirated version of a game and you can not play on multiplayer mode, but if someone has a cracked server you can play on that server. Option 2 is where you have the legit copy and you can play on any server. Now people who really like the game, have a good enough pc, or console, have the money, and the time will go for optioon 2 and buy the game. So as long as the multiplayer experience is good enough they will pay. Now that bassicly makes singleplayer into a sort of demo. Pirate the game, play the demo, keep the copy of the demo and ethier buy or do not buy the real game. Adding drm to the real game makes someone think twice before buying the game. It means that mostpeople will probably chew through their activations and then go onto a new game leaving multiplayer deserted. Allso means that the gamewill have less people on multiplayer. ANd it means that your paying for more than your getting. </p>
<p>Now an anti-piracy class which esentailly teaches us that &#8220;piracy&#8221; or &#8220;sharing&#8221; is bad and wrong is disgracefull. Imagine how anoyed people would be if they started that in pre-school by saying to kids that &#8220;no thats your toy, he/she can get their parents to buy another from us&#8221; and &#8220;remember sharing is bad&#8221;. People would be mad if they where teaching that to their kids at pre-school and then they come home and start fighting and saying this is my toy by your own. Well WTF why arent people upset at this. Next they will be teaching them that it is everyone for themselvs abnd that you gota be mean to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17862/comment-page-1#comment-909203</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were innocent and sued by directv or the RIAA, because you were innocent, hence, no proof, the fraud was committed on the court.  It is illegal to sue people you know to be innocent and make a profit from such frauds. If you report it to authorities, you will likely be ignored. If the authorities ignored you then the next time you are a juror or witness do just what justice did, Ignore them. Eventually it should bring the justice back into compliance in protecting people from fraudulant lawsuits and prostituting purgerous court complaints.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17862/comment-page-1#comment-908704</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I got some suggestions. 

First is, copyright law isn&#039;t working. It&#039;s very broken. It isn&#039;t serving its purpose, it&#039;s been hijacked by commercial concerns into something that doesn&#039;t even vaguely resemble it&#039;s beginnings. 

Where is public domain? The driving force behind copyright to encourage those that create to continue creating. It&#039;s missing from the equation. It&#039;s the trade off from allowing the copyright to begin with. Nothing you hear in your lifetime will ever be in public domain. Not unless you live to a ripe old age, exceeding near 100 years. If you heard it and remembered it as a child you may get by with less but on the whole, that&#039;s a fair statement for all of us.

Who says stakeholders, beyond the musician have to get paid? The labels served a use during the days of physical copies and limited resources. That day has come and gone and other than advertising the artist there is nothing they do that can&#039;t be done cheaper by the artists. 

Many of the artists, termed indies because they won&#039;t sign with major labels into what results in slave labor wages, now do it all on their own. They also get all the income for themselves and don&#039;t have to share that with a horde of vampires intent on sucking the financial life blood from the music group. They don&#039;t have to give way on their creative bent because some outside source said that it would sell better if they changed this or that phase, tempo of the music, or whatever. 

It&#039;s already proven that the establishment has a big problem with distribution control. That was how they made their money in the past. Distribution control is no longer under their fingertips and so it doesn&#039;t make them the money they have had in the past. Crap, p2p distributes it for free without cost, proving that model is broken and is no longer needed, meaning that those who depended on that method to bleed everyone around them has finally been short circuited and that is why they are crying so hard about the pirate. 

Then there are the slimey methods they have used over the years, for generations, to steal from others to line their pockets. These methods the labels have never believed would ever catch up with them and they could put a happy face on while stabbing the artist in the back and raking in the dough from sales. 

All this mess about piracy, the laws they have literally purchased, and the glorified stinkhole of sue-em all, has me where I want none of the products from the majors. It&#039;s one of the few items you can make a purchase on, not be able to take it back if something is wrong with it, that there is a chance if you bought an item it could land you in court, plus the general black eye of such poor public relations have lead me to the conclusion I do not want their products ever. It is not worth the payment for the hassle you the customer are expected to shoulder when you buy. 

If I pay for something, it is mine. It&#039;s not a rental. I do not agree to major labels terms for a license because I purchased the item. So there is nothing on the shelves I want to buy when it comes to movies and music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I got some suggestions. </p>
<p>First is, copyright law isn&#8217;t working. It&#8217;s very broken. It isn&#8217;t serving its purpose, it&#8217;s been hijacked by commercial concerns into something that doesn&#8217;t even vaguely resemble it&#8217;s beginnings. </p>
<p>Where is public domain? The driving force behind copyright to encourage those that create to continue creating. It&#8217;s missing from the equation. It&#8217;s the trade off from allowing the copyright to begin with. Nothing you hear in your lifetime will ever be in public domain. Not unless you live to a ripe old age, exceeding near 100 years. If you heard it and remembered it as a child you may get by with less but on the whole, that&#8217;s a fair statement for all of us.</p>
<p>Who says stakeholders, beyond the musician have to get paid? The labels served a use during the days of physical copies and limited resources. That day has come and gone and other than advertising the artist there is nothing they do that can&#8217;t be done cheaper by the artists. </p>
<p>Many of the artists, termed indies because they won&#8217;t sign with major labels into what results in slave labor wages, now do it all on their own. They also get all the income for themselves and don&#8217;t have to share that with a horde of vampires intent on sucking the financial life blood from the music group. They don&#8217;t have to give way on their creative bent because some outside source said that it would sell better if they changed this or that phase, tempo of the music, or whatever. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s already proven that the establishment has a big problem with distribution control. That was how they made their money in the past. Distribution control is no longer under their fingertips and so it doesn&#8217;t make them the money they have had in the past. Crap, p2p distributes it for free without cost, proving that model is broken and is no longer needed, meaning that those who depended on that method to bleed everyone around them has finally been short circuited and that is why they are crying so hard about the pirate. </p>
<p>Then there are the slimey methods they have used over the years, for generations, to steal from others to line their pockets. These methods the labels have never believed would ever catch up with them and they could put a happy face on while stabbing the artist in the back and raking in the dough from sales. </p>
<p>All this mess about piracy, the laws they have literally purchased, and the glorified stinkhole of sue-em all, has me where I want none of the products from the majors. It&#8217;s one of the few items you can make a purchase on, not be able to take it back if something is wrong with it, that there is a chance if you bought an item it could land you in court, plus the general black eye of such poor public relations have lead me to the conclusion I do not want their products ever. It is not worth the payment for the hassle you the customer are expected to shoulder when you buy. </p>
<p>If I pay for something, it is mine. It&#8217;s not a rental. I do not agree to major labels terms for a license because I purchased the item. So there is nothing on the shelves I want to buy when it comes to movies and music.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17862/comment-page-1#comment-908662</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reasonable rates&quot; is a nice turn of phrase. &quot;Free&quot; is a better one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reasonable rates&#8221; is a nice turn of phrase. &#8220;Free&#8221; is a better one.</p>
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