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		<title>By: free1</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18061/comment-page-1#comment-933100</link>
		<dc:creator>free1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ surfer
... and why do u think they call it &quot;new world order&quot;?

This is and has been their plan all along. If you think this is bad then just wait. ID cards to go from city to country and or to next town / city, same for within city, even block you off in few block area ... while they travel all over policing it all. You&#039;ll get ration of genetically engineered food, place to slave to the bone and grubby bed to sleep on, that&#039;s it. Another Gaza.
If you think I&#039;m kidding just look at what they do to third world countries. If you still not convinced then check out youtube, google video, liveleak and many others for:
terrorist
freemasons
protests 
IMF
CFR [council on foreign relations]
c-spanjunkie
new world order
... oh man, i could be here all day typing them out. Also watch what&#039;s related too. 

Posts are skyrocketing all over. Try looking at the increase in posts here P2Pnet ... then Wikileaks, democracynow, theblackvault, projectcensored, dslreports, 1000&#039;s of blogs and so on. Just look at all the posts here and figure out the big picture.

Look at big media and you can see over time what they are up to. They tell you outright what their plans are, how they jump from one to another situation, circumvent each action we do ... right in front of your face!

The point is to wake up and smell the coffee ... then connect the dots.
Just as a test: take a full wall [8 by 12 ft] start with just headings of stories at 12 point font, paste each one or only important ones and see how they relate to each other. You&#039;ll soon see which direction they are going. If not keep going till you do

enjoy and never fear, don&#039;t give them the satisfaction ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ surfer<br />
&#8230; and why do u think they call it &#8220;new world order&#8221;?</p>
<p>This is and has been their plan all along. If you think this is bad then just wait. ID cards to go from city to country and or to next town / city, same for within city, even block you off in few block area &#8230; while they travel all over policing it all. You&#8217;ll get ration of genetically engineered food, place to slave to the bone and grubby bed to sleep on, that&#8217;s it. Another Gaza.<br />
If you think I&#8217;m kidding just look at what they do to third world countries. If you still not convinced then check out youtube, google video, liveleak and many others for:<br />
terrorist<br />
freemasons<br />
protests<br />
IMF<br />
CFR [council on foreign relations]<br />
c-spanjunkie<br />
new world order<br />
&#8230; oh man, i could be here all day typing them out. Also watch what&#8217;s related too. </p>
<p>Posts are skyrocketing all over. Try looking at the increase in posts here P2Pnet &#8230; then Wikileaks, democracynow, theblackvault, projectcensored, dslreports, 1000&#8217;s of blogs and so on. Just look at all the posts here and figure out the big picture.</p>
<p>Look at big media and you can see over time what they are up to. They tell you outright what their plans are, how they jump from one to another situation, circumvent each action we do &#8230; right in front of your face!</p>
<p>The point is to wake up and smell the coffee &#8230; then connect the dots.<br />
Just as a test: take a full wall [8 by 12 ft] start with just headings of stories at 12 point font, paste each one or only important ones and see how they relate to each other. You&#8217;ll soon see which direction they are going. If not keep going till you do</p>
<p>enjoy and never fear, don&#8217;t give them the satisfaction <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18061/comment-page-1#comment-932494</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious where jurisdiction is involved. How could a Danish company offer evidence for alleged infringement in US? I agree with the other comments here, they are only shifting gears, the MAFIAA have absolutely no intentions of minimizing their destructive practices, and now plan on attempting to get the US ISP&#039;s to do their dirty work with even flimsier (sp?) evidence. 

No more legal wrangling, (like that made a big successful impact, zero victories, count em, zip!), no more requirement of &#039;evidence&#039;, as if they ever had any to begin with. So instead of actually having to use due process &lt;i&gt; for a civil offense&lt;/i&gt;, they can just begin sending mass letters to ISPs for alleged copyright infringement with even less evidence than they had before, which was never enough to make their case to begin with.

I do not think the ISPs in Amerika are going to lie down for this. There are too many activist groups like the EFF that will protest enough for this new flim-flam technique to ever take hold. Cmon, really, this is just outright ignorant.

This could be compared to Exxon being liable for the bank you robbed because you used their petrol in the getaway car. Or the Bell liable for the threatening call you made over their phone lines, etc, etc, etc.

/insert rolling eyes here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious where jurisdiction is involved. How could a Danish company offer evidence for alleged infringement in US? I agree with the other comments here, they are only shifting gears, the MAFIAA have absolutely no intentions of minimizing their destructive practices, and now plan on attempting to get the US ISP&#8217;s to do their dirty work with even flimsier (sp?) evidence. </p>
<p>No more legal wrangling, (like that made a big successful impact, zero victories, count em, zip!), no more requirement of &#8216;evidence&#8217;, as if they ever had any to begin with. So instead of actually having to use due process <i> for a civil offense</i>, they can just begin sending mass letters to ISPs for alleged copyright infringement with even less evidence than they had before, which was never enough to make their case to begin with.</p>
<p>I do not think the ISPs in Amerika are going to lie down for this. There are too many activist groups like the EFF that will protest enough for this new flim-flam technique to ever take hold. Cmon, really, this is just outright ignorant.</p>
<p>This could be compared to Exxon being liable for the bank you robbed because you used their petrol in the getaway car. Or the Bell liable for the threatening call you made over their phone lines, etc, etc, etc.</p>
<p>/insert rolling eyes here</p>
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		<title>By: free1</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18061/comment-page-1#comment-932260</link>
		<dc:creator>free1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy chronoss, that kind of talk can get you busted, as if you care LOL

I have a better word than RIAA and big media for you. Try ashkenazi and also watch
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1224557929

take a boo at all the parts of The Arrival
live and learn, expand your thinking, save your anger till later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy chronoss, that kind of talk can get you busted, as if you care LOL</p>
<p>I have a better word than RIAA and big media for you. Try ashkenazi and also watch<br />
<a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1224557929" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1224557929</a></p>
<p>take a boo at all the parts of The Arrival<br />
live and learn, expand your thinking, save your anger till later</p>
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		<title>By: CHRoNoSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHRoNoSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately even if the foreign agency isn&#039;t held responsible the RIAA as the perveyors of said agent could instead then be DIRECTLY held responsible. Just cause you use child labour in china by third party does that mean your company is not held responsible?
OH if thats the case perhaps i should look for a country that i can hire to carry out and wack riaa brass, after all they did it not me right, i&#039;m not responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately even if the foreign agency isn&#8217;t held responsible the RIAA as the perveyors of said agent could instead then be DIRECTLY held responsible. Just cause you use child labour in china by third party does that mean your company is not held responsible?<br />
OH if thats the case perhaps i should look for a country that i can hire to carry out and wack riaa brass, after all they did it not me right, i&#8217;m not responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomk</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18061/comment-page-1#comment-932164</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to note that that the RIAA have elected to use a &quot;foreign&quot; corporation, technically not liable under various US federal and state laws.
I expect to see more of the same type of dos activity as encrypted content becomes the norm rather than the current 22% of all p2p traffic. The principles of DTECNET have incurred the interest of the P2P community in the past.

For P2PNet readers to understand how complex IPFilter Lists need to be to keep DTECNET out of their machines, a little looksee into the past is required. 

http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=da&amp;u=http://piratgruppen.org/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D62061&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=translate&amp;resnum=4&amp;ct=result&amp;prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522whois%2BThomas%2BSehested%2522%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG

These guys seem to register more domain names than NSI. Thier RIPE entries are similarly scary. 

Someone in that company knows what they are doing.
Although they appear to be focusing on Torrent traffic - they are fishing for ed2k via their main server running Lugundum set-up in Korea. Although they appear to have authoratitive servers in multiple EU countries and Im not sure yet, but I think China.
This is one company that has wired the P2P world.

I repeat my earlier strong assertion that KAD is a good option. And for true obfuscation behind a NAT router running KAD and MIRO or TVU simultaneously will result in a false alarm on their sniffer route tracking software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to note that that the RIAA have elected to use a &#8220;foreign&#8221; corporation, technically not liable under various US federal and state laws.<br />
I expect to see more of the same type of dos activity as encrypted content becomes the norm rather than the current 22% of all p2p traffic. The principles of DTECNET have incurred the interest of the P2P community in the past.</p>
<p>For P2PNet readers to understand how complex IPFilter Lists need to be to keep DTECNET out of their machines, a little looksee into the past is required. </p>
<p><a href="http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=da&amp;u=http://piratgruppen.org/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D62061&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=translate&amp;resnum=4&amp;ct=result&amp;prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522whois%2BThomas%2BSehested%2522%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=da&amp;u=http://piratgruppen.org/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D62061&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=translate&amp;resnum=4&amp;ct=result&amp;prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522whois%2BThomas%2BSehested%2522%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG</a></p>
<p>These guys seem to register more domain names than NSI. Thier RIPE entries are similarly scary. </p>
<p>Someone in that company knows what they are doing.<br />
Although they appear to be focusing on Torrent traffic &#8211; they are fishing for ed2k via their main server running Lugundum set-up in Korea. Although they appear to have authoratitive servers in multiple EU countries and Im not sure yet, but I think China.<br />
This is one company that has wired the P2P world.</p>
<p>I repeat my earlier strong assertion that KAD is a good option. And for true obfuscation behind a NAT router running KAD and MIRO or TVU simultaneously will result in a false alarm on their sniffer route tracking software.</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comeoncomcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes

I always want my bits encrypted LOL

=P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes</p>
<p>I always want my bits encrypted LOL</p>
<p>=P</p>
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