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	<title>Comments on: DigiProtect &#8216;RIAA-style tactics&#8217; in the US</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18110/comment-page-1#comment-977105</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul:

See http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18541 and http://www.techdirt.com/blog.php?company=digiprotect

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul:</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18541" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18541</a> and <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog.php?company=digiprotect" rel="nofollow">http://www.techdirt.com/blog.php?company=digiprotect</a></p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18110/comment-page-1#comment-977102</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everybody.
Just want to say that I have received a letter from the above mentiond company Digiprotect. They are asking me for Â£500 British Pounds. They say that I downloaded an Album on P2P Networks. Do I really have to pay these crooks Â£500 or are they just another set of scammers?

Thanks For Any Information On This Matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody.<br />
Just want to say that I have received a letter from the above mentiond company Digiprotect. They are asking me for Â£500 British Pounds. They say that I downloaded an Album on P2P Networks. Do I really have to pay these crooks Â£500 or are they just another set of scammers?</p>
<p>Thanks For Any Information On This Matter</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18110/comment-page-1#comment-936917</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. You have neither solicited nor received ours. We did not invite you. You do not know us, nor do you know our world. Cyberspace does not lie within your borders. Do not think that you can build it, as though it were a public construction project. You cannot. It is an act of nature and it grows itself through our collective actions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have not engaged in our great and gathering conversation, nor did you create the wealth of our marketplaces. You do not know our culture, our ethics, or the unwritten codes that already provide our society more order than could be obtained by any of your impositions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You claim there are problems among us that you need to solve. You use this claim as an excuse to invade our precincts. Many of these problems don&#039;t exist. Where there are real conflicts, where there are wrongs, we will identify them and address them by our means. We are forming our own Social Contract . This governance will arise according to the conditions of our world, not yours. Our world is different.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cyberspace consists of transactions, relationships, and thought itself, arrayed like a standing wave in the web of our communications. Ours is a world that is both everywhere and nowhere, but it is not where bodies live.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are creating a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are creating a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your legal concepts of property, expression, identity, movement, and context do not apply to us. They are all based on matter, and there is no matter here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our identities have no bodies, so, unlike you, we cannot obtain order by physical coercion. We believe that from ethics, enlightened self-interest, and the commonweal, our governance will emerge . Our identities may be distributed across many of your jurisdictions. The only law that all our constituent cultures would generally recognize is the Golden Rule. We hope we will be able to build our particular solutions on that basis. But we cannot accept the solutions you are attempting to impose.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the United States, you have today created a law, the Telecommunications Reform Act, which repudiates your own Constitution and insults the dreams of Jefferson, Washington, Mill, Madison, DeToqueville, and Brandeis. These dreams must now be born anew in us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are terrified of your own children, since they are natives in a world where you will always be immigrants. Because you fear them, you entrust your bureaucracies with the parental responsibilities you are too cowardly to confront yourselves. In our world, all the sentiments and expressions of humanity, from the debasing to the angelic, are parts of a seamless whole, the global conversation of bits. We cannot separate the air that chokes from the air upon which wings beat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In China, Germany, France, Russia, Singapore, Italy and the United States, you are trying to ward off the virus of liberty by erecting guard posts at the frontiers of Cyberspace. These may keep out the contagion for a small time, but they will not work in a world that will soon be blanketed in bit-bearing media.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your increasingly obsolete information industries would perpetuate themselves by proposing laws, in America and elsewhere, that claim to own speech itself throughout the world. These laws would declare ideas to be another industrial product, no more noble than pig iron. In our world, whatever the human mind may create can be reproduced and distributed infinitely at no cost. The global conveyance of thought no longer requires your factories to accomplish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These increasingly hostile and colonial measures place us in the same position as those previous lovers of freedom and self-determination who had to reject the authorities of distant, uninformed powers. We must declare our virtual selves immune to your sovereignty, even as we continue to consent to your rule over our bodies. We will spread ourselves across the Planet so that no one can arrest our thoughts. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.</p>
<p>We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.</p>
<p>Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. You have neither solicited nor received ours. We did not invite you. You do not know us, nor do you know our world. Cyberspace does not lie within your borders. Do not think that you can build it, as though it were a public construction project. You cannot. It is an act of nature and it grows itself through our collective actions.</p>
<p>You have not engaged in our great and gathering conversation, nor did you create the wealth of our marketplaces. You do not know our culture, our ethics, or the unwritten codes that already provide our society more order than could be obtained by any of your impositions.</p>
<p>You claim there are problems among us that you need to solve. You use this claim as an excuse to invade our precincts. Many of these problems don&#8217;t exist. Where there are real conflicts, where there are wrongs, we will identify them and address them by our means. We are forming our own Social Contract . This governance will arise according to the conditions of our world, not yours. Our world is different.</p>
<p>Cyberspace consists of transactions, relationships, and thought itself, arrayed like a standing wave in the web of our communications. Ours is a world that is both everywhere and nowhere, but it is not where bodies live.</p>
<p>We are creating a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth.</p>
<p>We are creating a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.</p>
<p>Your legal concepts of property, expression, identity, movement, and context do not apply to us. They are all based on matter, and there is no matter here.</p>
<p>Our identities have no bodies, so, unlike you, we cannot obtain order by physical coercion. We believe that from ethics, enlightened self-interest, and the commonweal, our governance will emerge . Our identities may be distributed across many of your jurisdictions. The only law that all our constituent cultures would generally recognize is the Golden Rule. We hope we will be able to build our particular solutions on that basis. But we cannot accept the solutions you are attempting to impose.</p>
<p>In the United States, you have today created a law, the Telecommunications Reform Act, which repudiates your own Constitution and insults the dreams of Jefferson, Washington, Mill, Madison, DeToqueville, and Brandeis. These dreams must now be born anew in us.</p>
<p>You are terrified of your own children, since they are natives in a world where you will always be immigrants. Because you fear them, you entrust your bureaucracies with the parental responsibilities you are too cowardly to confront yourselves. In our world, all the sentiments and expressions of humanity, from the debasing to the angelic, are parts of a seamless whole, the global conversation of bits. We cannot separate the air that chokes from the air upon which wings beat.</p>
<p>In China, Germany, France, Russia, Singapore, Italy and the United States, you are trying to ward off the virus of liberty by erecting guard posts at the frontiers of Cyberspace. These may keep out the contagion for a small time, but they will not work in a world that will soon be blanketed in bit-bearing media.</p>
<p>Your increasingly obsolete information industries would perpetuate themselves by proposing laws, in America and elsewhere, that claim to own speech itself throughout the world. These laws would declare ideas to be another industrial product, no more noble than pig iron. In our world, whatever the human mind may create can be reproduced and distributed infinitely at no cost. The global conveyance of thought no longer requires your factories to accomplish.</p>
<p>These increasingly hostile and colonial measures place us in the same position as those previous lovers of freedom and self-determination who had to reject the authorities of distant, uninformed powers. We must declare our virtual selves immune to your sovereignty, even as we continue to consent to your rule over our bodies. We will spread ourselves across the Planet so that no one can arrest our thoughts. </p>
<p>We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before.</p>
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		<title>By: Tronix</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18110/comment-page-1#comment-935602</link>
		<dc:creator>Tronix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things are going exactly the way I had foreseen years ago. If you give the the MAFIAA even one pound of flesh, other industries are going to want in on this litigious money tree. We&#039;re already starting to see publishers starting to complain how the Internet killed their revenue stream. How long will it be before people are sued for infringing on textile patterns, authors finding snippets of text online that resemble something from their book, etc...

Something needs to be done to nip this in the bud. Unfortunately, because this is happening on such a small scale, don&#039;t expect any action from Congress. I&#039;m sure they will be well paid to stay quiet with the few people who will be victimized. What worries me is that here in the US, Obama recently appointed an RIAA scoundrel to be the assistant  Attorney General for the US. I hope that this guy won&#039;t be able to push his agenda from his seat. I&#039;m just very disappointed that Obama didn&#039;t take this into consideration before putting him in charge.

Okay I&#039;ll get off my soapbox for now... Thanks for keeping us all informed, Jon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are going exactly the way I had foreseen years ago. If you give the the MAFIAA even one pound of flesh, other industries are going to want in on this litigious money tree. We&#8217;re already starting to see publishers starting to complain how the Internet killed their revenue stream. How long will it be before people are sued for infringing on textile patterns, authors finding snippets of text online that resemble something from their book, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Something needs to be done to nip this in the bud. Unfortunately, because this is happening on such a small scale, don&#8217;t expect any action from Congress. I&#8217;m sure they will be well paid to stay quiet with the few people who will be victimized. What worries me is that here in the US, Obama recently appointed an RIAA scoundrel to be the assistant  Attorney General for the US. I hope that this guy won&#8217;t be able to push his agenda from his seat. I&#8217;m just very disappointed that Obama didn&#8217;t take this into consideration before putting him in charge.</p>
<p>Okay I&#8217;ll get off my soapbox for now&#8230; Thanks for keeping us all informed, Jon!</p>
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