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		<title>By: Anaz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18115/comment-page-1#comment-947560</link>
		<dc:creator>Anaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vaibhavi,

There are several online resources available that you just google for. If any of your team like to read then quality books from wiley and oreilly cover such technologies in detail.

I also highly recommend you could attend the upcoming Great Indian Developer Summit ( developersummit dot com) that is covering Java, Agile, REST, JAX-RS, mashups, .NET, Rich Web, JPA, SOA, rich user experiences, Spring, Groovy and more. They have most of the creators of these technologies as speakers. My team is attending this summit 22-25 apr at IISc campus where we are attending the web conference on April 23 and java on April 24. We have been able to get very good discounts. Maybe all those who are interested from your group can sign up together and get a good bargain from them. what say? I also attended last year&#039;s conference and had a really cool time.

In Hyderabad there is Sun Tech Days with some sun speakers.

Thanks,
Anaz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vaibhavi,</p>
<p>There are several online resources available that you just google for. If any of your team like to read then quality books from wiley and oreilly cover such technologies in detail.</p>
<p>I also highly recommend you could attend the upcoming Great Indian Developer Summit ( developersummit dot com) that is covering Java, Agile, REST, JAX-RS, mashups, .NET, Rich Web, JPA, SOA, rich user experiences, Spring, Groovy and more. They have most of the creators of these technologies as speakers. My team is attending this summit 22-25 apr at IISc campus where we are attending the web conference on April 23 and java on April 24. We have been able to get very good discounts. Maybe all those who are interested from your group can sign up together and get a good bargain from them. what say? I also attended last year&#8217;s conference and had a really cool time.</p>
<p>In Hyderabad there is Sun Tech Days with some sun speakers.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Anaz</p>
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		<title>By: Vaibhavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vaibhavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

I am working for a software integrator company. My projects includes working on Java and Ruby on Rails and Ajax. I think Web Services is really cool. We also recently have to now work on REST and they are talking about mashups and Struts. Can anyone tell me if there are some good training or conferences so that me and my team members can get to speed with these technologies. Learning from books is not my cup of tea, even not when I was doing engineering ;)

All the help that group members can provide in this regard is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Vaibhavi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I am working for a software integrator company. My projects includes working on Java and Ruby on Rails and Ajax. I think Web Services is really cool. We also recently have to now work on REST and they are talking about mashups and Struts. Can anyone tell me if there are some good training or conferences so that me and my team members can get to speed with these technologies. Learning from books is not my cup of tea, even not when I was doing engineering <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All the help that group members can provide in this regard is much appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Vaibhavi</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18115/comment-page-1#comment-938525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve run into a couple of people that had the rogue Antivirus2009 on their site.  They got it becuase of a popup on  a site saying their computer was infected with x amount of virus and to download this app to fix it.  They did, ran scans and was then telling them to buy the full version 39.99 to completely remove the virus&#039;s.  THey then phoned me and I fixed the problem and told them that seeing they have Norton installed they should never ever believe any popup saying they had virus&#039;s unless it was to come directly from the Norton icon by the clock, and that Norton would deal with the virus or whatever the problem is.

I&#039;ve had no problems with the one on Jon&#039;s site.  I&#039;ve installed and removed it on a few machines with no problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve run into a couple of people that had the rogue Antivirus2009 on their site.  They got it becuase of a popup on  a site saying their computer was infected with x amount of virus and to download this app to fix it.  They did, ran scans and was then telling them to buy the full version 39.99 to completely remove the virus&#8217;s.  THey then phoned me and I fixed the problem and told them that seeing they have Norton installed they should never ever believe any popup saying they had virus&#8217;s unless it was to come directly from the Norton icon by the clock, and that Norton would deal with the virus or whatever the problem is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had no problems with the one on Jon&#8217;s site.  I&#8217;ve installed and removed it on a few machines with no problems.</p>
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		<title>By: DRM Koolaid</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18115/comment-page-1#comment-938445</link>
		<dc:creator>DRM Koolaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dredd

There&#039;s a zillion malware programs out there. Why don&#039;t you grab a spare PC/spare Windows install* and try repeating the test I did? That way, you can satisfy yourself that the crapware you were dealing with wasn&#039;t AntiSpyware 2009?

I&#039;m sure that logging your experience here with it would be useful and help clear the air that Jon isn&#039;t peddling malware.

*XP is better, because it&#039;s more infectable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dredd</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a zillion malware programs out there. Why don&#8217;t you grab a spare PC/spare Windows install* and try repeating the test I did? That way, you can satisfy yourself that the crapware you were dealing with wasn&#8217;t AntiSpyware 2009?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that logging your experience here with it would be useful and help clear the air that Jon isn&#8217;t peddling malware.</p>
<p>*XP is better, because it&#8217;s more infectable.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18115/comment-page-1#comment-938422</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Did it ever occur to you that the criminals that make the malware Antispyware 2009 might not have enough respect for copyright to make their own logos, and maybe, just maybe, itâs easier to rip it from a the legit app? DUH! &quot;

 Why yes, it did actually.
 That is why my next go round will be fully photo documented and uploaded.
 Most likely I will send the Documentation to Jon.

 It also occurred to me that some companies that pretend to be of good will and &#039;Well Respected&#039; often lie to public
 sources, knowing that in most cases their facts will not be checked.

 The next fight will be CAREFULLY documented and photgraphed for all to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Did it ever occur to you that the criminals that make the malware Antispyware 2009 might not have enough respect for copyright to make their own logos, and maybe, just maybe, itâs easier to rip it from a the legit app? DUH! &#8221;</p>
<p> Why yes, it did actually.<br />
 That is why my next go round will be fully photo documented and uploaded.<br />
 Most likely I will send the Documentation to Jon.</p>
<p> It also occurred to me that some companies that pretend to be of good will and &#8216;Well Respected&#8217; often lie to public<br />
 sources, knowing that in most cases their facts will not be checked.</p>
<p> The next fight will be CAREFULLY documented and photgraphed for all to see.</p>
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		<title>By: devious_204</title>
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		<dc:creator>devious_204</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being in the IT service industry i think we have responded to over 10 calls in the last week and half becuase of the fake product and the residual infected dll&#039;s from it, i can see how with the name being so close as to why so many people are concerned, but it all stems down to a lack of education of the users, we have been explaining to no end that if something on the internet pops up telling you that you have a virus it is 9 times out of 10 a virus itself and you should just close the window, before you download something google the filename and do some reading, cuz in the end an educated used is one that is less likely to have to phone us for problems like these that can mostly be avoided</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being in the IT service industry i think we have responded to over 10 calls in the last week and half becuase of the fake product and the residual infected dll&#8217;s from it, i can see how with the name being so close as to why so many people are concerned, but it all stems down to a lack of education of the users, we have been explaining to no end that if something on the internet pops up telling you that you have a virus it is 9 times out of 10 a virus itself and you should just close the window, before you download something google the filename and do some reading, cuz in the end an educated used is one that is less likely to have to phone us for problems like these that can mostly be avoided</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18115/comment-page-1#comment-938095</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dreddsnik:

Did it ever occur to you that the criminals that make the malware Antispyware 2009 might not have enough respect for copyright to make their own logos, and maybe, just maybe, it&#039;s easier to rip it from a the legit app? DUH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dreddsnik:</p>
<p>Did it ever occur to you that the criminals that make the malware Antispyware 2009 might not have enough respect for copyright to make their own logos, and maybe, just maybe, it&#8217;s easier to rip it from a the legit app? DUH!</p>
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		<title>By: DRM Koolaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRM Koolaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Dredd, I suspect that PC wasn&#039;t running the app advertised on Jon&#039;s site - malware often masquerades as someone elses legitimate app.

To try and check out this program, a while back, I ran one of my spare Windows installs and clicked the link for Antispyware on here. I downloaded the trial app and ran it. It found a few suspicious cookies and that was it, which is a perfectly normal result. I checked the PC for infections with Kaspersky Internet Security and it came up clean. I was then able to remove Antispyware via the normal add/remove method. I didn&#039;t get an spammy popups while I was using it either, or see any other suspicious behaviour. I didn&#039;t get any suspicous-looking network activity either. I ran a second Kaspersky scan and it came up clean. Note that well designed malware of course won&#039;t show anything of course, so it&#039;s hard to tell the difference between that and a legitimate app, hence the scan with Kaspersky.

I tried googling this product to see if it came up as malware, but there was nothing conclusive, just one or two places down the search results thinking that it was and others saying it was ok. If you try googling a known malware app such as Antispyware XP, then search results light up like a Chistmas tree with warnings about the rogue app. Hence, I would say that Antispyware 2009 is unlikely to be malware.

If anyone can check out Antispyware 2009 more thoroughly, I&#039;d be interested to see their results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Dredd, I suspect that PC wasn&#8217;t running the app advertised on Jon&#8217;s site &#8211; malware often masquerades as someone elses legitimate app.</p>
<p>To try and check out this program, a while back, I ran one of my spare Windows installs and clicked the link for Antispyware on here. I downloaded the trial app and ran it. It found a few suspicious cookies and that was it, which is a perfectly normal result. I checked the PC for infections with Kaspersky Internet Security and it came up clean. I was then able to remove Antispyware via the normal add/remove method. I didn&#8217;t get an spammy popups while I was using it either, or see any other suspicious behaviour. I didn&#8217;t get any suspicous-looking network activity either. I ran a second Kaspersky scan and it came up clean. Note that well designed malware of course won&#8217;t show anything of course, so it&#8217;s hard to tell the difference between that and a legitimate app, hence the scan with Kaspersky.</p>
<p>I tried googling this product to see if it came up as malware, but there was nothing conclusive, just one or two places down the search results thinking that it was and others saying it was ok. If you try googling a known malware app such as Antispyware XP, then search results light up like a Chistmas tree with warnings about the rogue app. Hence, I would say that Antispyware 2009 is unlikely to be malware.</p>
<p>If anyone can check out Antispyware 2009 more thoroughly, I&#8217;d be interested to see their results.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18115/comment-page-1#comment-938008</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard time buying this. Mainly because last week I removed an
Antispyware 2009 infection from a machine. It&#039;s logo was exactly like the
Antispyware 2009 logo above.

It resisted all attempts to uninstall by normal means.
It constantly brought up fake lists of virii, which were in fact NOT
on the machine and offered to remove them for a 39.99 fee.

Normal methods of MANUAL REMOVAL also failed.

 This is not the behavior of a benign app.
 This is the SECOND tangle I have had with this app.

 The next time I have to go rounds with it, I will be certain to photo document the
 fight at every stage and post it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time buying this. Mainly because last week I removed an<br />
Antispyware 2009 infection from a machine. It&#8217;s logo was exactly like the<br />
Antispyware 2009 logo above.</p>
<p>It resisted all attempts to uninstall by normal means.<br />
It constantly brought up fake lists of virii, which were in fact NOT<br />
on the machine and offered to remove them for a 39.99 fee.</p>
<p>Normal methods of MANUAL REMOVAL also failed.</p>
<p> This is not the behavior of a benign app.<br />
 This is the SECOND tangle I have had with this app.</p>
<p> The next time I have to go rounds with it, I will be certain to photo document the<br />
 fight at every stage and post it.</p>
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