PS I work for Bell, and worked on the DNCL project. There’s no conspiracy. Bell is just a big company. And Bell has nothing to do with assessing the complaints. CRTC is completely responsible for that. Keep in mind that the legislation states that companies can call you if you have an existing relationship with them. Even so though there are rules of engagement. I suggest you file your complaint and see what happens. Many don’t know this but in the states AT&T was one of the first fined, and they hosted the list (http://advertising.about.com/b/2003/11/04/att-violates-its-own-do-not-call-list.htm).

Take care.

PS I work for Bell, and worked on the DNCL project. There’s no conspiracy. Bell is just a big company. And Bell has nothing to do with assessing the complaints. CRTC is completely responsible for that. Keep in mind that the legislation states that companies can call you if you have an existing relationship with them. Even so though there are rules of engagement. I suggest you file your complaint and see what happens. Many don’t know this but in the states AT&T was one of the first fined, and they hosted the list (http://advertising.about.com/b/2003/11/04/att-violates-its-own-do-not-call-list.htm).

Take care.

The following is a response I got from McTeague’s office:

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email. To ensure a timely response, could you kindly provide our office with your home address, postal code and home phone number? Due to the volume of emails that we receive, we can only respond to emails from our constituents. If you do not live in the Pickering Scarborough East riding you can find your M.P. by postal code through the following website: http://www.parl.gc.ca

Thank you for your co-operation.

Regards,

Office of the Hon. Dan McTeague, P.C., M.P.

(No, I don’t live in that riding.)
Too fuckin’ much!

Its an interesting idea, keeping “proof’ that you told someone not to call. The problem being, having proof wont get you anywhere when there is no one willing to do anything about it. If the legislation allowed for seeking civil penalties from violators it would be a different story.

I think that’s not a bad idea!!
Consider it done.

And, I think I’ll send them a link to the p2pnet post “Open Letter to Tony Clement”, just to let them know people are interested in the answer.

This, to me, is evidence that “Bell Methodology” is at work again – simply ignore the agreement, while sneakily getting their legal team to work on a “challenge”, to be filed when the whole thing reaches the point of public outrage.

The CRTC complaint process for the DNCL (and everything else, really) is a complete JOKE.
They narrow it to giving you only a web form, which doesn’t allow any individual comment, as it directs you to resign yourself to a predetermined “multiple choice” format. In the end, there’s no opportunity to express your anger, and the complaint carries no actual “weight” (whether by itself, or grouped with all others like it).

On a side note:
Notice the media hasn’t followed up on this stuff since the original Global and CTV reports.
More proof the protection racket is still functioning as designed.
(Tony Clement has yet to acknowledge my letter either.)

No surprise.
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They inform me Geist is correct that ioptout request are valid. But the only way to lodge a complaint is through the do not call registry site. Any action apparently depends on the number of complaints lodged against a company. SO even though I have an email, definitively declaring a company will not honour ioptout do not call requests, there is no way to use that to have action taken unless others are complaining about getting calls too. I guess the privacy commissioner would be the only other option.

You will, of course, post back to tell us what answer you may get in return.

Regardless, one of my points throughout this is that we’re going through this exercise in the first place, when we shouldn’t be. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bell had no real intentions of honouring iOptOut in the first place (they certainly put up a fight against it before it became “law”).

There seem to be some who have contacted Bell directly and have, indeed been removed from their call list, while there seem to be a shitload that went that route and are still getting the calls.

So yes, complaining to the Bell run registry about Bell itself is quite appropriate. I am confident swift strong action will be taken. Perhaps Bell will have itself disconnect its own phone lines.