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		<title>By: I'm always right</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-957943</link>
		<dc:creator>I'm always right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a throw the plebs a bone once in a while so they think they have a venue for redress, gotta keep the system &quot;seem&quot; fair,

keep the taxes coming in, country club and the such to pay for with taxpayer subsidized dollars ya know.

&quot;How do you switch from corporate court to common?&quot; don&#039;t know or care I pay the firm to get the devil out of the details.

Gotta go tee time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a throw the plebs a bone once in a while so they think they have a venue for redress, gotta keep the system &#8220;seem&#8221; fair,</p>
<p>keep the taxes coming in, country club and the such to pay for with taxpayer subsidized dollars ya know.</p>
<p>&#8220;How do you switch from corporate court to common?&#8221; don&#8217;t know or care I pay the firm to get the devil out of the details.</p>
<p>Gotta go tee time.</p>
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		<title>By: hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ I&#039;m always ...
&quot;Common law = precedent&quot; oversimplified doesn&#039;t cut it. How do you switch from corporate court to common?
&quot;every once in a while we let one through&quot; .. can you explain this to us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ I&#8217;m always &#8230;<br />
&#8220;Common law = precedent&#8221; oversimplified doesn&#8217;t cut it. How do you switch from corporate court to common?<br />
&#8220;every once in a while we let one through&#8221; .. can you explain this to us?</p>
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		<title>By: I'm always right</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm always right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common law = precedent, there I just did in 2 secs. what would take you 2 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common law = precedent, there I just did in 2 secs. what would take you 2 months.</p>
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		<title>By: hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ always right
Common laws in USA are different than Canada even though they come from the same place, King or Queen of Britain. Not England, England is a totally different animal.

Let&#039;s me be a little clearer for everyone. 
This is how Canada and United States came to be and how they operate [USA in rough outline only] ... Please watch and learn carefully
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594427259151866285&amp;hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6875190461311597622&amp;hl=en

Fuller references of whole system can be found here
http://www.myspace.com/lakeshorebaby

With all due respect if you have a few months to explain it to you @ 300 per hr and 8 hrs a day and you pay for my time I&#039;ll be glad to do it. If not then you can easily do searches through records and libraries and study it on your own time. 

Enjoy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ always right<br />
Common laws in USA are different than Canada even though they come from the same place, King or Queen of Britain. Not England, England is a totally different animal.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s me be a little clearer for everyone.<br />
This is how Canada and United States came to be and how they operate [USA in rough outline only] &#8230; Please watch and learn carefully<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594427259151866285&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594427259151866285&amp;hl=en</a><br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6875190461311597622&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6875190461311597622&amp;hl=en</a></p>
<p>Fuller references of whole system can be found here<br />
<a href="http://www.myspace.com/lakeshorebaby" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/lakeshorebaby</a></p>
<p>With all due respect if you have a few months to explain it to you @ 300 per hr and 8 hrs a day and you pay for my time I&#8217;ll be glad to do it. If not then you can easily do searches through records and libraries and study it on your own time. </p>
<p>Enjoy <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: A_F</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-956971</link>
		<dc:creator>A_F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon &amp; Jen

http://www.gnupg.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon &amp; Jen</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnupg.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnupg.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: I'm always right</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm always right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hook says: &quot;Well you have an alternative which you have had all along they don’t want you to know about: Common law courts.&quot; 

I don&#039;t know about your common system but if the name is any indication it is stacked against you, like the peoples court

 or kangaroo court, we set them up so you run around in a maze until you run out of appellate appeals and the lawyers get rich 

and you think you get justice, every once in a while we let one through so you think the system works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hook says: &#8220;Well you have an alternative which you have had all along they don’t want you to know about: Common law courts.&#8221; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about your common system but if the name is any indication it is stacked against you, like the peoples court</p>
<p> or kangaroo court, we set them up so you run around in a maze until you run out of appellate appeals and the lawyers get rich </p>
<p>and you think you get justice, every once in a while we let one through so you think the system works.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jen:

I found your posts in the spam list. No idea why Akismet picked them out. 

Frankly, I have concerns about your second post and I need to verify that you are what you say you are. You can safely email me at p2pnet @ shaw dot ca in spite of the fact you say, &quot;your ISP is not on the list of secure ones so I won’t be able to email you&quot; 

Cheers! And thanks ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jen:</p>
<p>I found your posts in the spam list. No idea why Akismet picked them out. </p>
<p>Frankly, I have concerns about your second post and I need to verify that you are what you say you are. You can safely email me at p2pnet @ shaw dot ca in spite of the fact you say, &#8220;your ISP is not on the list of secure ones so I won’t be able to email you&#8221; </p>
<p>Cheers! And thanks &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I messaged to this blog three times last night and once this morning and not one took. Look in your memory.
Love and peace Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I messaged to this blog three times last night and once this morning and not one took. Look in your memory.<br />
Love and peace Jen</p>
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		<title>By: hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW , ppl are finally starting to get it. Accept for maybe &quot;I&#039;m always right&quot; but that&#039;s allowed due to different mind set in USA. 

The only way anyone with present knowledge is going to get remedy is if they sue the bastards. But if they sue they won&#039;t get lost time, money, business, etc. because no lawyer will cut their own throat by going against the system that feeds em, and neither will any judge. Sure, the lawyers will get paid but not the users. They are in it for the money and money from users/people only. 

Well you have an alternative which you have had all along they don&#039;t want you to know about: Common law courts.
As k says all the info is on thinkfreeforums.org and should be any freeman on the land website. 
Now if you can find a lawyer that will be your agent in this YOUR lawful way then all of us will have proper remedy. Good luck, I&#039;ve searched all of Ontario and not found one. 
One last thing, don&#039;t ever settle for a lesser deal than your actual losses and any attempts to shut you up, that is a favorite trick they use to rip you off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW , ppl are finally starting to get it. Accept for maybe &#8220;I&#8217;m always right&#8221; but that&#8217;s allowed due to different mind set in USA. </p>
<p>The only way anyone with present knowledge is going to get remedy is if they sue the bastards. But if they sue they won&#8217;t get lost time, money, business, etc. because no lawyer will cut their own throat by going against the system that feeds em, and neither will any judge. Sure, the lawyers will get paid but not the users. They are in it for the money and money from users/people only. </p>
<p>Well you have an alternative which you have had all along they don&#8217;t want you to know about: Common law courts.<br />
As k says all the info is on thinkfreeforums.org and should be any freeman on the land website.<br />
Now if you can find a lawyer that will be your agent in this YOUR lawful way then all of us will have proper remedy. Good luck, I&#8217;ve searched all of Ontario and not found one.<br />
One last thing, don&#8217;t ever settle for a lesser deal than your actual losses and any attempts to shut you up, that is a favorite trick they use to rip you off.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nugent!?
Is he still alive??!
: P

Maybe we should get him to play a &quot;non-stop resurrection concert&quot; outside the CRTC headquarters.
Let &#039;em know it&#039;s a &quot;gift&quot; from all the happy Bell customers and all the people now registered on the DNCL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nugent!?<br />
Is he still alive??!<br />
: P</p>
<p>Maybe we should get him to play a &#8220;non-stop resurrection concert&#8221; outside the CRTC headquarters.<br />
Let &#8216;em know it&#8217;s a &#8220;gift&#8221; from all the happy Bell customers and all the people now registered on the DNCL!</p>
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		<title>By: I'm always right</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm always right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think we broke up AT&amp;T. In your socialist country your national telephone company Bell Canada charges to much, what do you expect when it has produced the worlds most prolific copyright terrorists. We just found a way to get our royalties through the back door and you sheep are bending over for it and if you’ve got a problem with that then  forget hunting with Cheney, I’ll send you people on a  good ole fashioned Texas safari with Ted Nugent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think we broke up AT&amp;T. In your socialist country your national telephone company Bell Canada charges to much, what do you expect when it has produced the worlds most prolific copyright terrorists. We just found a way to get our royalties through the back door and you sheep are bending over for it and if you’ve got a problem with that then  forget hunting with Cheney, I’ll send you people on a  good ole fashioned Texas safari with Ted Nugent.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Law student Jen.

Which law program are you in?

ty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Law student Jen.</p>
<p>Which law program are you in?</p>
<p>ty.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think i posted this in the comments before, but i think its very much relative to this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://homes.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;by John Perry Barlow  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. You have neither solicited nor received ours. We did not invite you. You do not know us, nor do you know our world. Cyberspace does not lie within your borders. Do not think that you can build it, as though it were a public construction project. You cannot. It is an act of nature and it grows itself through our collective actions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have not engaged in our great and gathering conversation, nor did you create the wealth of our marketplaces. You do not know our culture, our ethics, or the unwritten codes that already provide our society more order than could be obtained by any of your impositions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You claim there are problems among us that you need to solve. You use this claim as an excuse to invade our precincts. Many of these problems don&#039;t exist. Where there are real conflicts, where there are wrongs, we will identify them and address them by our means. We are forming our own Social Contract . This governance will arise according to the conditions of our world, not yours. Our world is different.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cyberspace consists of transactions, relationships, and thought itself, arrayed like a standing wave in the web of our communications. Ours is a world that is both everywhere and nowhere, but it is not where bodies live.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are creating a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are creating a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your legal concepts of property, expression, identity, movement, and context do not apply to us. They are all based on matter, and there is no matter here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our identities have no bodies, so, unlike you, we cannot obtain order by physical coercion. We believe that from ethics, enlightened self-interest, and the commonweal, our governance will emerge . Our identities may be distributed across many of your jurisdictions. The only law that all our constituent cultures would generally recognize is the Golden Rule. We hope we will be able to build our particular solutions on that basis. But we cannot accept the solutions you are attempting to impose.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the United States, you have today created a law, the Telecommunications Reform Act, which repudiates your own Constitution and insults the dreams of Jefferson, Washington, Mill, Madison, DeToqueville, and Brandeis. These dreams must now be born anew in us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are terrified of your own children, since they are natives in a world where you will always be immigrants. Because you fear them, you entrust your bureaucracies with the parental responsibilities you are too cowardly to confront yourselves. In our world, all the sentiments and expressions of humanity, from the debasing to the angelic, are parts of a seamless whole, the global conversation of bits. We cannot separate the air that chokes from the air upon which wings beat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In China, Germany, France, Russia, Singapore, Italy and the United States, you are trying to ward off the virus of liberty by erecting guard posts at the frontiers of Cyberspace. These may keep out the contagion for a small time, but they will not work in a world that will soon be blanketed in bit-bearing media.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your increasingly obsolete information industries would perpetuate themselves by proposing laws, in America and elsewhere, that claim to own speech itself throughout the world. These laws would declare ideas to be another industrial product, no more noble than pig iron. In our world, whatever the human mind may create can be reproduced and distributed infinitely at no cost. The global conveyance of thought no longer requires your factories to accomplish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These increasingly hostile and colonial measures place us in the same position as those previous lovers of freedom and self-determination who had to reject the authorities of distant, uninformed powers. We must declare our virtual selves immune to your sovereignty, even as we continue to consent to your rule over our bodies. We will spread ourselves across the Planet so that no one can arrest our thoughts. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Davos, Switzerland&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think i posted this in the comments before, but i think its very much relative to this:</p>
<p><a href="http://homes.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html" rel="nofollow">http://homes.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html</a></p>
<p>A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace </p>
<p>by John Perry Barlow  </p>
<p>Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.</p>
<p>We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.</p>
<p>Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. You have neither solicited nor received ours. We did not invite you. You do not know us, nor do you know our world. Cyberspace does not lie within your borders. Do not think that you can build it, as though it were a public construction project. You cannot. It is an act of nature and it grows itself through our collective actions.</p>
<p>You have not engaged in our great and gathering conversation, nor did you create the wealth of our marketplaces. You do not know our culture, our ethics, or the unwritten codes that already provide our society more order than could be obtained by any of your impositions.</p>
<p>You claim there are problems among us that you need to solve. You use this claim as an excuse to invade our precincts. Many of these problems don&#8217;t exist. Where there are real conflicts, where there are wrongs, we will identify them and address them by our means. We are forming our own Social Contract . This governance will arise according to the conditions of our world, not yours. Our world is different.</p>
<p>Cyberspace consists of transactions, relationships, and thought itself, arrayed like a standing wave in the web of our communications. Ours is a world that is both everywhere and nowhere, but it is not where bodies live.</p>
<p>We are creating a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth.</p>
<p>We are creating a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.</p>
<p>Your legal concepts of property, expression, identity, movement, and context do not apply to us. They are all based on matter, and there is no matter here.</p>
<p>Our identities have no bodies, so, unlike you, we cannot obtain order by physical coercion. We believe that from ethics, enlightened self-interest, and the commonweal, our governance will emerge . Our identities may be distributed across many of your jurisdictions. The only law that all our constituent cultures would generally recognize is the Golden Rule. We hope we will be able to build our particular solutions on that basis. But we cannot accept the solutions you are attempting to impose.</p>
<p>In the United States, you have today created a law, the Telecommunications Reform Act, which repudiates your own Constitution and insults the dreams of Jefferson, Washington, Mill, Madison, DeToqueville, and Brandeis. These dreams must now be born anew in us.</p>
<p>You are terrified of your own children, since they are natives in a world where you will always be immigrants. Because you fear them, you entrust your bureaucracies with the parental responsibilities you are too cowardly to confront yourselves. In our world, all the sentiments and expressions of humanity, from the debasing to the angelic, are parts of a seamless whole, the global conversation of bits. We cannot separate the air that chokes from the air upon which wings beat.</p>
<p>In China, Germany, France, Russia, Singapore, Italy and the United States, you are trying to ward off the virus of liberty by erecting guard posts at the frontiers of Cyberspace. These may keep out the contagion for a small time, but they will not work in a world that will soon be blanketed in bit-bearing media.</p>
<p>Your increasingly obsolete information industries would perpetuate themselves by proposing laws, in America and elsewhere, that claim to own speech itself throughout the world. These laws would declare ideas to be another industrial product, no more noble than pig iron. In our world, whatever the human mind may create can be reproduced and distributed infinitely at no cost. The global conveyance of thought no longer requires your factories to accomplish.</p>
<p>These increasingly hostile and colonial measures place us in the same position as those previous lovers of freedom and self-determination who had to reject the authorities of distant, uninformed powers. We must declare our virtual selves immune to your sovereignty, even as we continue to consent to your rule over our bodies. We will spread ourselves across the Planet so that no one can arrest our thoughts. </p>
<p>We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before.</p>
<p>Davos, Switzerland</p>
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		<title>By: colors</title>
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		<dc:creator>colors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>law student Jen Says:
February 1st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
We’re studying this since some of us were given desist notices

See I see an opportunity here for all to get involved.

CIPPIC, CIPPIC law students, PIAC, especially the Quebec Consumer Union, and others, as a group thing (if that&#039;s even possible).

The competition bureau already showed its colors
The CRTC already showed its colors
The industry minister and Industry Canada already showed its colors.

Huge miscarriage of justice here while the people get screwed out of their money and what they bought and pay for (especially the Quebecers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>law student Jen Says:<br />
February 1st, 2009 at 2:55 pm<br />
We’re studying this since some of us were given desist notices</p>
<p>See I see an opportunity here for all to get involved.</p>
<p>CIPPIC, CIPPIC law students, PIAC, especially the Quebec Consumer Union, and others, as a group thing (if that&#8217;s even possible).</p>
<p>The competition bureau already showed its colors<br />
The CRTC already showed its colors<br />
The industry minister and Industry Canada already showed its colors.</p>
<p>Huge miscarriage of justice here while the people get screwed out of their money and what they bought and pay for (especially the Quebecers).</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-956163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^@ Jen:

Good stuff, and I&#039;m going to do a post based on your comment. 

Could you let me know a bit more about where you guys are studying? Please get in touch on or off the record - p2pnet @ shaw dot ca.

Cheers! And thanks ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^@ Jen:</p>
<p>Good stuff, and I&#8217;m going to do a post based on your comment. </p>
<p>Could you let me know a bit more about where you guys are studying? Please get in touch on or off the record &#8211; p2pnet @ shaw dot ca.</p>
<p>Cheers! And thanks &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: law student Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-956157</link>
		<dc:creator>law student Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re studying this since some of us were given desist notices and we find Bell and other internet providers have broken so many laws we don&#039;t have enough of us to compile them all. Each act and statute we look at we find Bell has broken it in some way. The more we cross reference we find that every corporation has doing the same. It&#039;s like the whole government, corporate and political entity has taken away the rights of Canadians and put them in a position of children where they can tell them what they should be doing and not telling them what the real truth is. It&#039;s mind boggling. 
Look at laws that go back to start of Canada and you find that even present government is unlawful. It&#039;s all a big money grab and legalized slavery. It goes back to first settlers from England where the crown imposed shipping and maritime laws on first Canadians where it had no right to impose any laws on new land dwellers starting a new country. 
Kudos to Devil&#039;s Advocate, sb, k and others on this blog. Ones that stand out most and make the most sense are hook, Freeman, spook101, spook, Free, Free1 and anyone along these lines. Love the &quot;get off your ass&quot; and think &quot;out of the box&quot; comments.
Love and peace Jen
Oh did you know there&#039;s not one instance of the word &quot;love&quot; in any of law books? So much for remedy. Anyone have Wayne Nagy email so we can give him pointers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re studying this since some of us were given desist notices and we find Bell and other internet providers have broken so many laws we don&#8217;t have enough of us to compile them all. Each act and statute we look at we find Bell has broken it in some way. The more we cross reference we find that every corporation has doing the same. It&#8217;s like the whole government, corporate and political entity has taken away the rights of Canadians and put them in a position of children where they can tell them what they should be doing and not telling them what the real truth is. It&#8217;s mind boggling.<br />
Look at laws that go back to start of Canada and you find that even present government is unlawful. It&#8217;s all a big money grab and legalized slavery. It goes back to first settlers from England where the crown imposed shipping and maritime laws on first Canadians where it had no right to impose any laws on new land dwellers starting a new country.<br />
Kudos to Devil&#8217;s Advocate, sb, k and others on this blog. Ones that stand out most and make the most sense are hook, Freeman, spook101, spook, Free, Free1 and anyone along these lines. Love the &#8220;get off your ass&#8221; and think &#8220;out of the box&#8221; comments.<br />
Love and peace Jen<br />
Oh did you know there&#8217;s not one instance of the word &#8220;love&#8221; in any of law books? So much for remedy. Anyone have Wayne Nagy email so we can give him pointers?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-956088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ sb&lt;/b&gt; 

Could you contact me, please? p2pnet @ shaw dot ca

Cheers! And thanks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ sb</b> </p>
<p>Could you contact me, please? p2pnet @ shaw dot ca</p>
<p>Cheers! And thanks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ottawa Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-956079</link>
		<dc:creator>Ottawa Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sb Says: his is an issue that should be brought to the Weights and Measures Canada and the Ontario Ministry of Government Services (Consumer Protection
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Excellent point. I&#039;m going to check this out. 

Did some of your post go funny with Word-Press? Looks incomplete. If it is, re-post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sb Says: his is an issue that should be brought to the Weights and Measures Canada and the Ontario Ministry of Government Services (Consumer Protection<br />
&#8211;</p>
<p>Excellent point. I&#8217;m going to check this out. </p>
<p>Did some of your post go funny with Word-Press? Looks incomplete. If it is, re-post!</p>
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		<title>By: sb</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-956073</link>
		<dc:creator>sb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an issue that should be brought to the Weights and Measures Canada and the Ontario Ministry of Government Services (Consumer Protection</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an issue that should be brought to the Weights and Measures Canada and the Ontario Ministry of Government Services (Consumer Protection</p>
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		<title>By: CHRoNoSS</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18339/comment-page-1#comment-956071</link>
		<dc:creator>CHRoNoSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LEAVE BELL GO WITH A CAIP MEMBER
PAY LESS GET MORE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEAVE BELL GO WITH A CAIP MEMBER<br />
PAY LESS GET MORE</p>
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