Learning Channel kiddie porn show
p2pnet news view | TV:- Toddlers & Tiaras.
What?!
It’s the title of a Learning Channel (Yup – you read it correctly) ’show’.
“Young girls and their families are followed as they prepare to compete in various beauty pageants,” says Hollywood.com.
Like, little kids dolled (word used advisedly) up in bikinis and such.
“We tell users what movies to see, what TV shows to watch,” it says.
Not if Karrin Huynh and Lesley Cornelius, both 17 and both students in Ontario, Canada, can help it.
They’ve launched a Facebook group to get this disgusting project taken down, ASAP.
“Many of us have heard about JonBenet Ramsey (right), an America child beauty pageant contestant made famous by her murder,” says the post, going on »»»
She was found raped and murdered in the basement of her parents’ home in Boulder, Colorado, nearly eight hours after she was reported missing. It has been said that she was killed by a school teacher, who claimed she had tried to seduce him with the provocative clothing and performances she would put on during her pageants.
TLC has a new television show called “Toddlers and Tiaras”, this show is about girls as young as four and their families, as they prepare to compete in various beauty pageants.
These girls are scantily clad, painted up like dolls, making them look too mature for their age. These children are being exploited by these pageants and by the show.
Toddlers & Tiaras, is, “promoting pedophilia, and is very much sexualizing these children,” say Karrin and Lesley.
According to the blurb »»»
On any given weekend, on stages across the country, little girls and boys parade around wearing makeup, false eyelashes, spray tans and fake hair to be judged on their beauty, personality and costumes.
Toddlers and Tiaras follows families on their quest for sparkly crowns, big titles …
And, “lots of cash,” of course.
“From hair and nail appointments, to finishing touches on gowns and suits, to numerous coaching sessions or rehearsals, each child preps for their performance,” it says.
Just what every little kid needs.
Stay tuned, and join the Facebook group.
Really good, Karrin and Lesley
Jon Newton – p2pnet
February , 2009
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February 4th, 2009 at 9:32 am
i think i remember a BBC documentary – or something – in the past couple of years on these types of idiot parents who were so proud of having exploited their kids for cash, at the same time brainwashing the children into thinking it was a good thing to do.
i can’t remember if it was on Horizon, Panorama, or perhaps a Louis Theroux program. maybe someone here can recall it correctly.
February 4th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I’ve just invited everyone I know on Facebook to join, and I’ll be telling my daughter (12) about this so she can tell all her friends on- and offline, so they can tell their friends, and so on.
Cheers!
February 4th, 2009 at 10:22 am
@catflap
Yeah i remember seeing something like that, there’s a lot of stupid crazy shit like that out there, usually it’s the Americans that do this kind of crap, dressing their dogs up like children and vice-versa etc. Can’t say I really even give a shit, I hate kids…
February 4th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Seriously? Kiddie pr0n show? What’s next, get rid of diaper commercials because they show young kids wearing only diapers?
February 4th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Of course, to the children, it’s just innocent dress-up, make-believe, fun. In fact, as a sane, mature grown-up, I am quite able to appreciate it as such – perils of media stardom etc. aside. Obviously, the intention is not a sex parade for paedophiles; that’s bloody ridiculous. What bothers me more is the people who IMMEDIATELY interpret things like this as SEX and get up in arms, campaigning, against it. Naturally, it’s completely impossible to discuss this topic rationally with such people. The mere mention of paedophilia invokes the usual knee-jerk reactions by the crusaders who need to show off their moral fibre (simultaneously proving they are not a paedophile btw). It is physically and mentally impossible to those people NOT to condemn these things as loudly and publicly as possible, hand in hand with the total media hysteria that surrounds even the faintest hint of paedophilia. Did CHRIS MORRIS TEACH YOU NOTHING ?!?!?
February 4th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Sun King, i agree with you. it’s too easy to label it kiddie porn unless one has an agenda, or perhaps as you say they want to hide their own pedo feelings with moral fiber.
i’m only talking about the parents’ exploitation for the cash and how they brainwash their kids to do it, and robbing them of their childhood. it’s as bad as the parents dragging their kids around the country for stupid spelling bees.
i just think all beauty pageants are stupid and should be banned.
and JK, yes the program i saw was about americans.
and i don’t do so-called “social-networking”.
February 4th, 2009 at 10:43 am
IMO, anyone who believes it’s acceptable to dress little children up as adults in sexually suggestive costumes, makeup, wigs, etc, and then parade them around for money, urgently needs help.
That’s obscene in and of itself. And anyone who thinks these kinds of shows don’t, and won’t, pull people who see children as sexual objects, needs to think again.
Karrin has it right and I’m really glad she’s around.
Cheers!
February 4th, 2009 at 11:02 am
pedophiles can also be attracted to any film or tv show that has young children in it, or any that are aimed at youngsters.
i enjoy several CBBC programs and cartoons. some children in my building have watched tv and videos in my home, with and without their parents, but always with the parents’ knowledge.
but this does not make me a pedophile and i refuse to accept that anyone who watches programs or films aimed at a younger audience has ulterior motives.
pedophiles can be anywhere – but not in my home.
February 4th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I am a Canadian mother and I think encouraging children to be in this kind of exhibition is sick and it is disgraceful that TLC even thought about this show, let alone actually put it on TV.
Beth
February 4th, 2009 at 11:54 am
My jaw hit the floor as soon as I saw this show advertised. Not so much for the dressup, but all the accessories that go with it, such as fake eyelashes, spray-on tans—not to mention the fact that there’s a bikini contest. And some of these kids are literally as young as 3 or 4 years old. What kind of parenting is that? What sort of body image does it set for little girls? Anyone who thinks this sort of thing will not negatively impact their self esteem and self-awareness in their teens is a fool. This is why 13-year-olds are developing eating disorders.
Kudos to those 2 young women for taking a stand on this kind of bullshit.
February 4th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
” What bothers me more is the people who IMMEDIATELY interpret things like this as SEX and get up in arms, campaigning, against it ”
I agree on that.
The ones who see this as sexual instantly need to be questions as why THEY see it
sexually, and just may be the ones that need the help. Projection .. ie I am therfore everyone is .
” IMO, anyone who believes it’s acceptable to dress little children up as adults in sexually suggestive costumes, makeup, wigs, etc, and then parade them around for money, urgently needs help. ”
My wife and I put my twin daughters in a Baby pageant .. they were 2. It was fun. They wore pretty dresses,
got lot’s of positive attention from the locals ( it was strictly a local thing ) and , as I said, it was fun.
I can agree, that every ‘pageant’ is not like that, but is unfair to lump them all together as the same.
I have no ‘problems’ I can assure you, but this was not for money, just a local event.
Trouble is, how do we determine what is ‘too adult’ and ‘too obscene’.
Who gets to choose ? Who are you comfortable with making such a rule ?
” pedophiles can also be attracted to any film or tv show that has young children in it, or any that are aimed at youngsters. ”
Absolutely. A Pedophile wathces anything that contains children. Where do we begin when removing
childrens progamming. Who makes the criteria ? Who gets to decide for us ?
Once again, I can’t think of anyone that I feel comfortable with deciding what I can and can’t view.
As far as my kids, while they were growing up ( 18yrs old now ) I decided for them, however, there
was very little that I did not allow, since we talked about any content openly. I have a great relationship
with my kids, and no subject is taboo to discuss. I shudder to think of how little of the world around them
they might know of ( and to BEWARE of ) had someone forced me to censor them, for their own good, of course.
” I am a Canadian mother and I think encouraging children to be in this kind of exhibition is sick and it is disgraceful that TLC even thought about this show, let alone actually put it on TV. ”
It’s usualy the parents that make it sick, forcing the kids to do things and wear things that they may not wish to,
taking it to a level of seriousness that can scar a kid for life very easily, and THATS where my issue is with these
pageants, especially at very young ages. Perhaps a show should be made highlighting just how badly those adults act,
so they can see themselves on camera, MAYBE opening some eyes in the process.
” What sort of body image does it set for little girls? Anyone who thinks this sort of thing will not negatively impact their self esteem and self-awareness in their teens is a fool. This is why 13-year-olds are developing eating disorders. ”
There are a LOT of factors involved in that, not just these ‘pageants’ . All of them can be best handled by
good, solid, responsible, parenting .. not government censorship or special interest involvement.
To target one thing is targeting a symptom, ignoring an underlying problem in society at large.
If you don’t like it, don’t watch it, and don’t participate, and teach your kids why you believe it is wrong.
No one should be able to choose for others .. for their own good.
Thats’ bullshit too.
February 4th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
ok, so how do we fix the problem so it doesn’t happen? really fix it not just bitch about it
February 4th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
hopefully someone blocks this show before it airs.
kids should not be exploited in this way and discover channel should know better.
February 4th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
well we can’t “fix it” or discuss how cause jon is blocking posts of fixes, so much for p2p
February 4th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
” well we can’t “fix it” or discuss how cause jon is blocking posts of fixes, so much for p2p ”
Ummm no, you stupid troll.
I sent him an e-mail of my post and he happily put it through for me.
It is a so far unknown probelm with Akismet that he hasn’t been able to nail down.
Stop being such a dick.
February 4th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
” hopefully someone blocks this show before it airs.
kids should not be exploited in this way and discover channel should know better. ”
An interesting thought.
Do you think the defense .. ’she dressed like a hooker so she was asking for it’ is a good defense for
a rapist ?
How but the person who gets their brand new Blue Ray player nicked in the store parking lot ..
If he hadn’t bought it it wouldn’t have gotten nicked, right ?
We continue to assign blame to victims when the blame and the responsibility for a crime should
only go to one person .. the criminal, the Rapist, the Pedo etc …
They are the ONLY ONES responsible for their ACTIONS.
We are heading down the road to censorship which soon becomes the criminalization of thoughts.
Censorship is the beginning.
Let’s make all women and girls wear ‘Burkas’ so they won’t get attacked by the innocent
sicko that couldn’t control themself. Poor sicko.
February 4th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
re: Dreddisnik
NOOOOO we can see posts going up and being taken down again
many of us anons want to stay anons and not be recorded by email or anything else, it’s why we are anons, it’s called PRIVACY, you ever hear of it?
February 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
this is the main issue with p2pnet. either Jon is going to keep the site open and let us post real news & “fix it” msgs & all else or lock it. he locks it and looses support of real anonymous and all we stand for. the trolls that want to lock it are ones that probably work for MAFIAA or are dick heads
February 4th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Ya … I noticed. This is all one sided. Report on clues and hang users out to dry. What gives fools?
Parents got it from somewhere. Why can’t we post from where and how? What’s the big deal?
February 4th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
this sucks, i’m @ screen caps & log’n 2 irc
February 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Well,
Your 3 troll posts came through.
So, wheres the censorship and what’s the big deal
bye troll ( there is only one )
February 4th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
“this is the main issue with p2pnet. either Jon is going to keep the site open and let us post real news & “fix it” msgs & all else or lock it. he locks it and looses support of real anonymous”
I’m deleting posts from one or two people who keep signing on under different names with ‘cures’ and ‘fixes’ for everything, and which have phk-all to do with the content of specific posts.
And I plan keep on doing it. Phony ‘anons’ who keep trying to hijack p2pnet comments, and who’ve been banned at dslreports and elsewhere, had better get used to it.
On top of that, there is a problem with Akismet which is nothing to do with fake anons. It seems to be arbitrarily blocking perfectly acceptable posts.
Update I just tried something with Akismet. Let’s see if it helps.
Cheers!
February 4th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
So, Catflap,
I am particularly interested in your take on my response to the topic.
Because , only in my opinion, so take no offense please, the UK seems
to be only 2 steps ahead of the US in Nanny State laws, though we
are obviously trying real hard to catch up.
February 4th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
” IMO, anyone who believes it’s acceptable to dress little children up as adults in sexually suggestive costumes, makeup, wigs, etc, and then parade them around for money, urgently needs help. ”
My wife and I put my twin daughters in a Baby pageant .. they were 2. It was fun. They wore pretty dresses,
got lot’s of positive attention from the locals ( it was strictly a local thing ) and , as I said, it was fun.
I can agree, that every ‘pageant’ is not like that, but is unfair to lump them all together as the same.
I have no ‘problems’ I can assure you, but this was not for money, just a local event.
Trouble is, how do we determine what is ‘too adult’ and ‘too obscene’.
Who gets to choose ? Who are you comfortable with making such a rule ?
February 4th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
perfect.
for some reason, that particular segment kept getting rejected
no matter how I edited it.
worked fine this time.
February 4th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Dredd – I’m a dad too and I don’t have a problem with dress-ups or even fashion shows with kids as the models. In fact, My daughter, Emma, organised one when she was Girl Guide (she’s now a Pathfinder
).
However, as you may have noticed, I do have a serious problem with this kind of thing which is organised to suck in gullible parents (and also parents who shouldn’t even be parents) in the interests of boosting Nielsen ratings and generating advertising dollars, and nothing else.
It’s called exploitation. On top of that, kids who are brought up to believe this kind of thing is normal are going to be easy marks when they get older.
As for the headline, as far as I’m concerned, this show could even be worse than true kiddie porn: it’s dressed up as being OK when it sure as hell isn’t.
Not in my view, anyway.
Cheers!
February 4th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
“perfect. for some reason, that particular segment kept getting rejected no matter how I edited it. worked fine this time.”
Maybe my Akismet repair worked.
We’ll soon see.
Cheers!
February 4th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
DreddHeadDick i don’t know and can’t decide until i see options, i don’t see any here
it goes back to where assholes called parents received they’re schooling, go figure
watch your filthy mouth, i’m a mother of two and i don’t appreciate your comments GRRRRR
February 4th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
It’s gone a bit too far here though , and the motives I find to be
somewhat suspect.
One of my girls is a cheerleader.
This is her Senior year, and thus her last year on the squad.
We are not allowed to take movies of her performances, and
movie AND still cameras are not allowed in the competition rooms.
Supposedly, we’re told anyway, it’s because ‘Pedos might be filming’,
but we are told ‘Fear not, we’ll SELL you a video of the full competition for … ‘
Well, you get the picture.
There are legitimate concerns, i’m not foolish enough to ignore that.
But it is fast becoming an excuse for many, many things and thus
diminishes REAL complaints.
There is a lot of profiteering going on by both the promoters AND the censors.
With all the lying going on, it’s real tough to tell when there is a real problem anymore.
Blanket censorship isn’t the answer.
February 4th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
I was speaking to Catflap, not Cat.
Although I don’t always agree with Catflap, Catflap has
some class and can come up with a coherent statement.
But thanks anyway cat.
February 4th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
GRRRRRRRRR why is my message gone? it was up and then gone? it said so what was so bad about that deleted post?
February 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Dreddsnik, i think we’re pretty much on the same page. except for the fact that i think all beauty pageants are stupid – and should be banned because of the shear stupidity of it.
but i also think boxing and some other “sports” should also be banned, but that’s not gonna happen either because unfortunately they all attract the type of dumbed-down people who’ll either take part in them or pay to see them and buy the products advertised or endorsed by them.
as far as the UK being a nanny state…i don’t live in the UK (i’m american) or anywhere near it. but i do watch a lot of UK tv documentaries and sometimes news programs. i wouldn’t call it a nanny state anymore. when i lived there many years ago it was, but not now. i think it’s much more a big brother state – more than the US. the UK politicians are proud of – and boast about – having the most CCTV cameras in the world. that means that on average, a person in the UK is filmed or photographed a minimum of 30x/day.
and their police forces have taken their cues from hollywood and the US in general on how to strong-arm innocent people, as well as wearing masks, but no badge number or name plate, all “for their protection”. hah! the people have a right to know who the police are so they can be identified by their victims.
i don’t plan on ever living in the UK again.
i hope this answers your questions.
February 4th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
so mod is not going to answer, really frustrating!!!! answers everyone else but not me GRRRRRRRRRR fuck it, thanks for nothing
February 4th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
jon does have other things to do. and he’s not the mod. he’s the owner. but there are mods here who help jon clean up the trolls and nonsense.
and you say you’re a mother of two and don’t appreciate bad language? don’t let them read your above comment, hypocrite troll.
February 4th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
” but i also think boxing and some other “sports” should also be banned, but that’s not gonna happen either because unfortunately they all attract the type of dumbed-down people who’ll either take part in them or pay to see them and buy the products advertised or endorsed by them. ”
Heh.
I find myself in the position of being a big fan of UFC MMA, and being pretty well educated, so I
think the both of us used a bit too broad a brush .
I just can’t make myself believe that banning anything is an answer.
In just about every religion ( having researched many ) they all have many common threads and one
is .. Free Will.
The God/gods just never seem to interfer with free will. Goes all the way to Wiccan as well, even
Crowley’s complete bastardization of Wicca ( Wicca ‘Do as you will, and harm none, Crowley .. Do as you will )
Free will is a cornerstone.
Banning, Government control, abandonment of personal responsibilty … all lead to totalitarianism.
I firmly believe that,
If you don’t like, or want to see this show, don’t watch it.
If you object THAT strongly, write the network, tell them you won’t watch, and you won’t
support their advertisers.
That’s the proper way to execute your free will as a comsumer. That’s the RIGHT way
to express YOUR choice.
Every one deserves to choose for themselves ( and for their OWN children ) what they wish to view, read,
worship etc.
Government level Banning is just the start of the end, and sadly, we are halfway past that already.
February 4th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
” and boast about – having the most CCTV cameras in the world. that means that on average, a person in the UK is filmed or photographed a minimum of 30x/day. ”
I was not amused by a recent article about UK police going around arresting people who posed
in their MySpace pics with various knives. Just being in a picture with one was enough to
justify search and arrest. We’re not there in the US yet, but we’re getting Damn close.
February 4th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
@ catflap
i think you need to have a other look at the conversation between dredd and cat. he did a personal attack on her and she didn’t appreciate it. it’s slightly different when she doesn’t point it at anyone, so who’s the hypocrite troll?
thanks for letting us know another part of your operations as well
and i concur what “nooo” is saying: “NOOOOO we can see posts going up and being taken down again
many of us anons want to stay anons and not be recorded by email or anything else, it’s why we are anons, it’s called PRIVACY, you ever hear of it?”
so i think Jon and mods seem to have an agenda without hearing the other side. stick this in your pipe and smoke it
February 4th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I repeat: this is a personal site, not a business enterprise. I work at it 10-12 hours a day, every day. I’ve just deleted two more ‘comments’. Anyone who disagrees or who doesn’t like it can go somewhere else. Or start their own site and then they can post whatever they want. Fair enough?
I also repeat: unless someone emails me (happens, but rarely) I have no way of knowing who posts, and I don’t want to know. Comments which IMO have some relevance to the subject at hand will stay up, whether I agree with them or not. Otherwise, they’re gone.
Meanwhile, I’ve just made someone I trust a mod to keep an eye on things for at least some of the time when I’m not around. I hate to do it. But …
And in answer to ‘father,’ [in a post I've just deleted] who believes I should be carrying stories on “truth according to piles of records. whole libraries of certified papers, many CUT IN STONE that are thousands of years old. only now scientists are catching up and figuring some of them out as to their high technology and accuracy of facts,” as I say here http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18382 , “[...] If you’re posting as an excuse to promote … your latest thoughts on how to save the world, forget it.” p2pnet is not the place for this. There must be other sites that haven’t already thrown you off. So go there.
Cheers!
February 4th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
if bull fighting, dog fighting, cockfighting, whaling, (perhaps fox hunting very soon) and other such fun “sports”, activities and enterprises can be banned, so can boxing and beauty pageants.
and other stupid things people do for fun or money. not every state requires car insurance or a motorcycle helmet, but every state has seatbelt laws, too. these things make sense, free will or not. and banning stupid or harmful (physically or emotionally) things also makes sense.
my tongue is sort of in my cheek on the above, but to be clear, i’m not for banning books, movies or ideas or opinions. i just think there’s a limit and like you said, good parenting is the key. it’s mostly the exploitation of the kids by their parents i dislike, but i do really think beauty pageants should be stopped, and the way to start is to educate parents to not get their kids into it.
and again, i don’t think it’s fair to label this as kiddie porn. pedos will get what they want in just about any arena or medium and i wouldn’t call romper room, tikkabilla, or other children’s dramas or comedies where the kids wear make-up and pretty clothes kiddie porn.
February 4th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
” and banning stupid or harmful (physically or emotionally) things also makes sense. ”
At this point I will have to respectfully agree to disagree.
I find those activities ( except Hunting ) reprehensible, yet it is not
my right to tell others they can’t enjoy them. It IS my right to not
view or participate in them, and not purchase products or support
vendors that do.
Banning never makes sense, and usually never works, like trying to Ban P2P, f’rinstance
No matter how much you try, you can’t legislate a conscience, or enforce ‘intelligent’ choice.
I find homosexuality reprehensible, and yet it is not my place to tell consenting adults what they
can’t do.
I have no desire to tell them they can’t Marry if they choose.
Their Marriage has no effect on mine, and don’t diminish my choice in any way.
You may think this is apples to oranges, but it isn’t.
You may think Obama is a bad idea, but I am especially grateful that YOU aren’t running this country
Thanks for staying polite and classy, as I knew you would.
February 4th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
” i just think there’s a limit and like you said, good parenting is the key. ”
Right on the money.
As far as what the limit is, I will never feel comfortable letting someone else decide what
that limit is.
Have a great night Catflap. and Jon, since there is no one else here
February 4th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
i don’t see the point in cussing or insults on this website. for me, it’s always been a news site. i’ve never considered it a weblog or a message board.
and btw, jon knows why i get angry, but i’m pretty sure he wouldn’t post my articles if i just started slagging people off for the hell of it.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am
@dreddsnik
“If you don’t like it, don’t watch it, and don’t participate, and teach your kids why you believe it is wrong.
No one should be able to choose for others .. for their own good.
Thats’ bullshit too.”
I just finished reading “1984″ yesterday. Perhaps this is a bad day for me to be reading such comments
In all seriousness, though, the ability to choose content for yourself is (to me, at least) exactly why the RIAA, MPAA, and most of congress can go () themselves.
Who was it that said “I don’t agree with what you say, but I’ll defend to my death your right to say it!”? I might not be so noble, but while I find this show gross enough that I probably won’t ever turn to TLC just in case it’s on, I think its own ratings will get it off the air, without need of censoring. Especially with activists working to show it for what it is!
February 5th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I find this really sick to my stomach. No parent in his or her right mind would harm a child to this extent without being coaxed by others or circumstances. A mother’s unequivocal nature is to protect their offspring. Where the problem becomes apparent is influences from outside.
So let’s look at some: A girl should wear a dress, certain kind of shoes, makeup, sit up straight, walk a certain way and the list goes on for days. Who came up with such twisted proverbial habits? Men.
Men with they’re advertising, fashion industry, greed, and twisted sexual habits. They give a bad name to men who are real men and know how to treat a woman as an equal. You can trace most of societies problems to same twisted men at any time in modern and ancient society.
Women are perfectly capable of doing what we need to do without men’s twisted influence. It’s our nature. You are there for support and nothing else. It is up to you to ask us what needs to be done and how to do it. If you can’t handle this basic task then go back out the door and don’t forget to let it hit you on way out. You can come back when you have learned to show respect, love and compassion for your partner and your family and are ready to turn society back to natural ways.
As for you Mr. Jon Newton, I ever find out you disrespect my family again I’ll personally come over and picket your house till your website is shut down and you end up on TV for everyone to see. If you are to run a P2P website, that’s People to People, then you better act like it, opposing views and all.
Sarah C.: a Mother, multiple Phd’s, BS in Agriculture, Herbalist, Advocate, rich bitch and proud of it all.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:02 am
” I ever find out you disrespect my family again I’ll personally come over and picket your house till your website is shut down and you end up on TV for everyone to see. ”
ummm huh ?
From Jon –
” However, as you may have noticed, I do have a serious problem with this kind of thing which is organised to suck in gullible parents (and also parents who shouldn’t even be parents) in the interests of boosting Nielsen ratings and generating advertising dollars, and nothing else.
It’s called exploitation. On top of that, kids who are brought up to believe this kind of thing is normal are going to be easy marks when they get older. ”
He appears to be pretty much in agreement with you, to the point of directing people
to that facebook group, so I see no ‘disrespecting’ of you or your family.
” Sarah C.: a Mother, multiple Phd’s, BS in Agriculture, Herbalist, Advocate, rich bitch and proud of it all. ”
I’m Batman.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:05 am
multiple Phd’s, BS …
The BS part is accurate, even if nothing else is.
Cheers!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:23 am
i have a relative who’s written and produced some of the most popular tv shows in that past decade. they’re not fake reality or fixed contests although we know those are scripted and fixed. he writes and produces comedies. i liked a couple of them and told him so.
but his most recent one – which so far is his longest-running one – is one that i absolutely hate. i managed to stomach the first episode years ago. if he ever gets into reality and other fakes, i’ll boycott everything he does from that point onward.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:24 am
multiple Phd’s
hahahahahahahahahaha
February 5th, 2009 at 11:38 am
” multiple Phd’s ”
( each personality has it’s own Phd )
February 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
What kind of parent would put their kids through this? Exploiting their kids for money.
These TV execs and the network are just as sick.
There should be an outright ban and law on this type of child exploitation.
February 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
To be honest, I am more worried about what is happening on this Facebook group the girls have made up, they are accusing anyone who may disagree with them of being paedophiles. They are also encouraging other Facebook users to brand men with the paedophile tag, I think THAT is disgusting. Do their parents know that they are breaking the law and making Libelous comments about other Facebook users? Of course not, once confronted about their disgusting (that’s right, DISGUSTING) behaviour, they have removed all evidence and banned certain users from commenting in their group. Not only do they agree with the censorship of this TV show, they’re also going against Freedom of Speech.