The Pirate Bay trial, live and online
p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- History is being made as we post this.
Literally.
Backed by Bambuser.com, Bloggy.se and Riksinternet.se, in a joint adventure with Piratbyrån (The Bureau of Piracy), BitTorrent tracker The Pirate Bay is going full out to ensure the forthcoming trial between it and the corporate entertainment cartels gets full coverage, p2pnet posted towards the end of last week.
The trial started in Stockholm, Sweden, today and it’s going out live with Sofia streaming from her mobile on behalf of The Pirate Bay.
TPB has launched a true P2P online media coverage campaign via Twitter under the title Spectrial, and Sofia is also about to become one of the most famous online reporters in the world as she, too, tweets away.
Amazing!
As I write this, Sofia is saying the trial is wrapping up for the day.
‘They all pleaded not guilty’
TorrentFreak is following it from The Netherlands and in today’s post says »»»
Prosecutor Håkan Roswall read out the charges that can be best summarized as commercial copyright infringement. The plaintiffs are Warner Bros, MGM, EMI, Colombia Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Sony BMG and Universal. Lundström`s lawyer pointed out that the prosecutor may have drawn up some charges incorrectly. Interestingly, Lundström is the only one of the defendants with two lawyers, one of which is a copyright expert.
Fredrik, Gottfrid and Peter stated their defense. They all pleaded not guilty.
Roswall then went on to present the claims of the media outfits, and described how The Pirate Bay works, with a little bit of history. He went on till the lunch break, but meanwhile Rick Falkvinge of the Pirate Party couldn`t resist accessing The Pirate Bay site from his seat in the courtroom.
It goes on »»»
The prosecution suggested that The Pirate Bay was a commercial organization, with Carl Lundström as a shareholder and financier of the company.
They also said that The Pirate Bay investigated the possibility of moving to Argentina after concerns over changes in Swedish copyright law during 2005. The prosecution claimed there were plans with Carl Lundström to set up a company in British Virgin Islands.
Discussion ensued over the advertising on The Pirate Bay site, and the involvement of one Daniel Oded and companies Random Media and Transworld Advertising.
Following the lunch break, proceedings continued with prosecutor HÃ¥kan Roswall failing to start up his computer. For several minutes, listeners of the live audio could hear mouse-clicks as Roswall, who earlier claimed to be an expert on computer crimes, tried to get his PowerPoint presentation on the screen. He was eventually ordered by the judge to stick to his papers and continue.
Information was presented about various movie, music and game downloads co-ordinated by The Pirate Bay before the raid in 2006. Roswall further discussed the total number of seeds and peers on the tracker, all part of the evidence that was previously gathered by the plaintiffs. During the afternoon, Peter Sunde sent a message;
How the hell did they think this was going to be something else than EPIC FAIL for the prosecution? We`re winning so hard. Peter points out that the prosecutor is having difficulty working out the difference between megabits and megabytes.
Stay tuned, and check out TorrentFreak for continuing updates.
p2pnet – The Pirate Bay trial live via Twitter, February 11, 2009
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February 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Jon,
History is being made not History is lol
February 16th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Oh Deary Deary me
keyquotes;
“He went on till the lunch break, but meanwhile Rick Falkvinge of the Pirate Party couldnât resist accessing The Pirate Bay site from his seat in the courtroom.”
“Following the lunch break, proceedings continued with prosecutor HÃ¥kan Roswall failing to start up his computer. For several minutes, listeners of the live audio could hear mouse-clicks as Roswall, who earlier claimed to be an expert on computer crimes, tried to get his PowerPoint presentation on the screen. He was eventually ordered by the judge to stick to his papers and continue.”
“âHow the hell did they think this was going to be something else than EPIC FAIL for the prosecution? Weâre winning so hard.â Peter points out that the prosecutor is having difficulty working out the difference between megabits and megabytes.”
Viva La Pirat Byran’
Peter, Gottfrid, Fredrik, wish you the best of luck XD
February 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
@ Comeoncomcast
Er Yes. cough, cough.
Thanks
Cheers!
February 16th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
I have a lot of faith in the TPB crew actually putting the urban myth “file sharing is a crime” to bed with this.
They’re really quite brilliant, and really stick to their guns.
February 17th, 2009 at 1:59 am
Still don’t get how the prosecutor missed the part of swedish law that states that donwloading copyrighted contet for personal use is not a crime. Must have a different book.
February 17th, 2009 at 2:23 am
I think the most poetically beautiful thing was the so-called “expert in computer crime” failing to get his powerpoint presentation open, and fumbling around until the judge yelled at him to stick to paper.
This indicates that (despite bloviating dumbasses like “Sam” and his cronies) the vast majority of those defending the status quo are neither tech savvy NOR even particularly smart. (I mean, if they’d just done the “incentive licensing” thing with the original napster, and/or hadn’t killed the REAL mp3.com just to defend their pwecious “bidness model” — AND destroy the FIRST viable alternative to their bullshit in the process), they wouldn’t have completely alienated everybody, and they wouldn’t look like corporate weasels.
Realistically, even if TPB “loses”, those they insist on designating as “pirates” have already won:
Look up “media defender defenders”. Big ol’ bitch-slap to the content monopolists, there.
Which part don’t they understand, here? The crowds of supporters outside the courtroom, the vast network of “spontaneous order” disseminating info via twitter/blogs/etc.? The fact that a “mainstream” media outlet is streaming the audio of the trial? Or maybe it’s the fact that THIS trial will galvanize opposition to the status quo even MORE?
Even if TPB DOES lose, I doubt there’s enough prison cells for the several million (and counting) users of various p2p apps. Not to mention anybody running a “music blog”, everybody whose ever done a remix or mashup, etc.
BTW: Has anybody thought about that idea I had, about doing site-rips of music blogs, and creating torrents of them?
Good way to preserve/protect the “content” from the IP fascists, don’t you think?
(I just wish I had the resources to do it.)
February 17th, 2009 at 4:13 am
jon you have it a bit wrong. the girl on the picture is NOT Sofia.
She is a gal from piratbyran located in Stockholm herself. (she was sitting in the “lobby” of the courthouse for some time back yesterday when she reportd.
As far as i understood, Sofia is a female that is residing (according to her blog/twitter page) a bit below you on the map in San Francisco. She is listening to the audiofeed from the trial that swedish public radio is providing and writing her instant translations from a few thousand miles away from the courtroom. Thanks to the wonders of the interwebs
http://twitter.com/Sofia
http://www.sofiak.com/blog
February 17th, 2009 at 4:18 am
the gal you pictured is “Hanna in the bus” (phonetic)
http://bambuser.com/channel/Spectrial/broadcast/67501
February 17th, 2009 at 4:56 am
“The plaintiffs are Warner Bros, MGM, EMI, Colombia Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Sony BMG and Universal.”
This is a good reminder of what companies we have to kill. This work is in progress. It will not be long now.
February 17th, 2009 at 6:34 am
live long the pirate bay.
we are all behind you guys.
you helped me a lot.
February 17th, 2009 at 8:06 am
hey weres sam i am when you need him? come on boy, gloat how big f* media is a nailin da pirates!!!
hahahahaha!!!!!!
February 17th, 2009 at 8:17 am
@ kdsde:
My apologies to ‘Hanna in the bus’ and Sofia.
:blush:
Cheers!
February 17th, 2009 at 8:20 am
i think the plaintiff’s will embarass themselves rather badly. under the principle of stare decisis plaintiffs MUST show that actual illegal copies of copyright property were made. this is how the law has held and stare decisis requires that the law be held consistentently: where the material facts are the same the resulting decision must be the same
plaintiffs’ lawyers are going off completely half cocked and will be made into a bunch of monkeys. at most, PTB can be charges with collaborate copyright infringement but to do that there would need to be previous convictions for the actual copyright infringement(s)
February 17th, 2009 at 9:07 am
People People!!!!
Torrentfreak!!!
says 50% of Charges against the bay have been dropped XD
Hakan is an Idiot lol quote ‘During the morning session it was mostly prosecutor HÃ¥kan Roswall talking. Among other things he explained in detail how email works (made no mistakes there). We hope to post a more detailed overview of todayâs events in a few hours.’
What does email have to do with BitTorrent?
lol Guys, honestly I wouldnt be suprised if Hakan, drops the rest of the charges tomorrow the way this trial is going
Viva La Pirat Byran’
February 17th, 2009 at 9:17 am
@Readers Write
Go die.
@kdsde
Sofia isnt even in Sweden, her location is set to California in LA, US, maybe she just knows swedish
February 17th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Yah know, The thing that really kills me the most… They tried to say it’s a commercial organization but everybody knows the Pirate bay is Anti-Commercial through and through! they detest capitalism! you can’t buy them out for money! :s
I find it really difficult to take those moron seriously, they don’t even know the fundamentals of business computing let alone the technical aspspecs of what the hell is going on and how the internet works! I mean, who the hell are they hiring to fight their case for them? A bunch of chimps? How the hell did they ever land up being so powerful it’s beyond me!?
They can’t even deliver a complete polished argument and a conclusion with a clear presentation, a fucking spastic could use power point!
February 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
comoncomcast
not to be a smart ass here, but thats what i said.
the first “She” I meant as reference to the pictured girl. And that one is in sweden AND is not sofia AND sofia is not streaming from her mobile.
February 17th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
P.S. Oh and the reference to the emails was that the P read some of them where it was about buying advertising and payments and such stuff between the guy in israel and the tpb guys.
the P claimed that the tpb guy “answered in the mail” with his explaination of the useage of “>” in mails
the pictures of the investigationsreport where the P was reading this morning so boringly from showing the screenshots of the bittorrent clients wit really great share ratios from the antip2pguys can be found here: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4728276/
interesting pictures are a screenshot of the old (new) hardware bought from donations for example Protokoll-266_1.jpg and Protokoll-267_1.jpg or interesting pics where antip2p downloaders blurred or blacked out what else is showing in the taskbar; Protokoll-36_1.jpg and Protokoll-40_1.jpg (the last one even shows how good antip2p are as uploaders: ratio 5.197 aka 2.64GB upload on a 520 MB torrent. That’s good peer behaviour, isn’t it?)
They were also great in helping spreading harry potter back then! Downloading with 1.3KB/sec and uploading with 501.7KB/sec . Thanks to the fast lines in sweden “Protokoll-459_1.jpg” and you guys though it is wise to blog antip2p. They are the best uploaders it seems
the first season of prison break also benefitted from them very very well! they helped the swarm with uploadspeeds of over 1MB/sec while they themself got pieces with only ~200k LOL! “Protokoll-464_1.jpg” when they finished the first prison break season (4.44GB) they contributed to the swarm over 26GB! That is seeder of the month award i would say!
February 17th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
a last one:
diabolo2!
downloaded 1.67GB uploaded 66.7GB “Protokoll-523_1.jpg” (and yes, the dots are at the right place if you believe those to be “genuine evidence screenshots”