It’s not enuough that they want to charge me 2 or 3 times for the same song. Now they want top tell me what I can say and what I can’t say.

I have several professional musician friends. I delight in telling them that unfortunately I cannot and will not ever have their albums in my house because of socan. I love to point out to them that I only want to pay for their songs once.

IMO, the only thing socan is useful for is (possibly) compost.

[NOTE: I changed the name to Jon2 so this poster won't be confused with me - Jon Newton Cheers! ]

What separates SOCAN from the rest is that it has the gov’t and the law on their side, providing guaranteed revenue through tariffs, etc. and I don’t think any of the others winners have that advantage.

http://business.queensu.ca/news/blog/?p=28
2008 Top 25 Best Small and Medium Employers in Canada

Axia NetMedia Corp – Calgary, AB
Joe Fortes Seafood & Chophouse – Vancouver, BC
Windsor Family Credit Union – Windsor, ON
DRN Commerce Inc. – London, ON
Kawartha Credit Union Ltd. – Peterborough, ON
Sapphire Technologies Canada Ltd. (formerly CNC Global Ltd.) – Toronto, ON
4Refuel Canada Ltd. – Langley, BC
Dempsey Corp. – Toronto, ON
National Leasing – Winnipeg, MB
Skjodt-Barrett Foods Inc. – Mississauga, ON
Fuller Landau LLP – Toronto, ON
High Road Communications – Toronto, ON
Kingston Ross Pasnak LLP – Edmonton, AB
Benefits By Design Inc. – Port Coquitlam, BC
Spectra Credit Union – Estevan, SK
Allergan Inc. – Markham, ON
SOCAN (Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada) – Toronto, ON
Chevron Canada Resources Ltd. – Calgary, AB
Lakeside Process Controls Ltd. – Mississauga, ON
GrowthWorks Capital Ltd. – Vancouver, BC
Rare Method Interactive Corp. – Calgary, AB
Hood Group – Sherwood Park, AB
Innovation Place – Saskatoon, SK
Sovereign General Insurance Company – Calgary, AB
Mega Group Inc. – Saskatoon, SK

What a bunch of whiny *******!!!

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/02/18/crtc-newmedia-cancon.html

Let’s hope the government listens to the people, our tax dollars are worth far more than the bribes, I mean lobbyist funds!

“Regulated” also means paying a fee for registration. LOL

“Regulated” also means being bound by content written/shown.

SOCAN can go fuck themselves.

I hope this SOCAN clusterfuck of a speech to the CRTC opens the eyes of Canadians. SOCAN is trying to put a policy/regulation in place to shut people up.

Don’t they learn anything? Consumers do NOT want this!

You know, this is really pissing me off and if it continues I will DISCONNECT myself from the ‘Net! I’ll go back to writing letters and mailing them.

PVR’s being made hack-proof? DRM up the ying-yang on DVD/CD’s, and yet being removed from MP3/iTunes sites? We already pay a levy on HDD’s, CD’s, DVD’s, etc… Take that a stop complaining!

I know it would take a LOT of investment to lock machines down. I know companies are being forced to do this and for sure there will be investigators listening for any buzz about how to hack the ‘robust’ systems. So, why don’t we STOP BUYING IT!

Don’t buy any new TV, DVD player, CD, DVD, PVR, etc… switch to basic cable if you have it (go read a book from the library or rent movies from mom-pop shops – go get a VCR ans suffer with lower quality but adequate viewing of ‘content’), do everything you can to remove any possible profits they could make. Let’s make the ROI ZERO!!!

The stores will complain to the manufacturers who’ll lobby the governments to get the **AA off their backs!

DVD/Blu-Ray is super clear right? Full of extra features? Amazing sound? But the same CRAP content! The only way you’ll buy the content is if they pretty it up with technology, swearing, violence, and lots of T&A.

Anyone see The Lake House? Watch Il Mare, it’s Korean, but MUCH better! Content from Hollywood and the labels sucks, and their attempt to control your devices so you can’t use them for anything but what THEY want is proof. Will those PVR’s work on public broadcast networks? Probably not because they can’t afford the license for the “Flag.” Is that an American flag by the way (I know it is a watermark signal — at least I think it is that)?

We consumers STILL have control.

Spread the word, do NOT buy anything that’s locked down, let your dollar speak and it WILL work! Then vote, write to your MP, write to the PM/Prez, write to support groups and if you can help them with research or legal aid or financial aid, do it. The more we unite and take on these self-interested, outdated, unwilling to adapt groups and lobbyists the better we’ll all be.

Do you really think V for Vendetta was all that unbelievable? I bet I’ll see that situation in similar form in reality before I’m a grandparent!

Huh? How dyslexic does one have to be to come up with that? It should be SoCAMPC.