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		<title>By: ann</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-969647</link>
		<dc:creator>ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John, well you just revealed your bias, and, one can assume, your employer. 
HOW DARE YOU REVEAL SUCH PRIVATE INFORMATION ABOUT ANOTHER - I believe a complaint to the webmaster is in order!

Apropos the article:
The fact that Bell cheats people left, right and centre and steals money from people&#039;s bank accounts  should be enough to convince anyone not to have anything to do with them. (They insist on having access to a bank account if they provide internet service. However, they add charges and do not notify people that they are taking out extra sums. A number of my friends had extremely nasty surprises and it was almost impossible to get their money back when it was Bell&#039;s mistake!) 

BTW once you change they have no right to contact you for 3 months. However, I am still getting mail from Bell even though they don&#039;t come close to my current package deal and my experience with their customer service was only worsted by Roger&#039;s customer service.
GOOD RIDDANCE to them both!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John, well you just revealed your bias, and, one can assume, your employer.<br />
HOW DARE YOU REVEAL SUCH PRIVATE INFORMATION ABOUT ANOTHER &#8211; I believe a complaint to the webmaster is in order!</p>
<p>Apropos the article:<br />
The fact that Bell cheats people left, right and centre and steals money from people&#8217;s bank accounts  should be enough to convince anyone not to have anything to do with them. (They insist on having access to a bank account if they provide internet service. However, they add charges and do not notify people that they are taking out extra sums. A number of my friends had extremely nasty surprises and it was almost impossible to get their money back when it was Bell&#8217;s mistake!) </p>
<p>BTW once you change they have no right to contact you for 3 months. However, I am still getting mail from Bell even though they don&#8217;t come close to my current package deal and my experience with their customer service was only worsted by Roger&#8217;s customer service.<br />
GOOD RIDDANCE to them both!</p>
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		<title>By: urbanriot</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-968569</link>
		<dc:creator>urbanriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is a little outrageously sensational -&gt; &quot;Now Bell deems it fit that the customer has to first go through them to terminate their phone service and move to another provider.&quot; Uh, maybe I&#039;m missing something, but why WOULDN&#039;T you cancel your service, whatever that service might be, prior to switching? Wtf!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is a little outrageously sensational -&gt; &#8220;Now Bell deems it fit that the customer has to first go through them to terminate their phone service and move to another provider.&#8221; Uh, maybe I&#8217;m missing something, but why WOULDN&#8217;T you cancel your service, whatever that service might be, prior to switching? Wtf!?</p>
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		<title>By: Indian freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-968362</link>
		<dc:creator>Indian freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@justme
&quot;Way up at the top, Virgin Mobile is the clear winner.&quot;

Virgin is a Bell brand.

I will never use Virgin because of this fact.

I will wait for the new start-ups this year instead, or go Rogers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@justme<br />
&#8220;Way up at the top, Virgin Mobile is the clear winner.&#8221;</p>
<p>Virgin is a Bell brand.</p>
<p>I will never use Virgin because of this fact.</p>
<p>I will wait for the new start-ups this year instead, or go Rogers.</p>
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		<title>By: JustMe</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-968303</link>
		<dc:creator>JustMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bell&#039;s move is like telling a rape victim that she will have to negotiate with the rapist. I don&#039;t think so. 

I can see they are scared to death with the new competition around the corner but they might try something new for a change like decent service. The January issue of Consumer Report (with Canadian supplement) rates Bell as the worst cell phone provider in Canada. Way up at the top, Virgin Mobile is the clear winner. The irony here is that Virgin runs on Bell&#039;s infrastructure. The only difference is the way the company deals with the public. VM spends more time training their staff and provides them with the right attitude: the customer is always right. Well, almost. Bell customers are victimized by endless extortion fees (SAF, 911, outrageous SMS charges etc) that go straight into Bell&#039;s pocket. Enough is enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bell&#8217;s move is like telling a rape victim that she will have to negotiate with the rapist. I don&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>I can see they are scared to death with the new competition around the corner but they might try something new for a change like decent service. The January issue of Consumer Report (with Canadian supplement) rates Bell as the worst cell phone provider in Canada. Way up at the top, Virgin Mobile is the clear winner. The irony here is that Virgin runs on Bell&#8217;s infrastructure. The only difference is the way the company deals with the public. VM spends more time training their staff and provides them with the right attitude: the customer is always right. Well, almost. Bell customers are victimized by endless extortion fees (SAF, 911, outrageous SMS charges etc) that go straight into Bell&#8217;s pocket. Enough is enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-968200</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: John

Have you tried to cancel services vs contact a sales dept? When I switched carries I was very happy I only had to call the people I wanted to switch to and not stay on hold for 30 minutes to fight with Bell.  You say that people might be able to hagle a lower price well they still have that option if they so choose.  The point here is Bell is trying to make that our ONLY option.

Screw Bell and all the cronies that keep it propped up.  Can&#039;t wait to see that ship sink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: John</p>
<p>Have you tried to cancel services vs contact a sales dept? When I switched carries I was very happy I only had to call the people I wanted to switch to and not stay on hold for 30 minutes to fight with Bell.  You say that people might be able to hagle a lower price well they still have that option if they so choose.  The point here is Bell is trying to make that our ONLY option.</p>
<p>Screw Bell and all the cronies that keep it propped up.  Can&#8217;t wait to see that ship sink.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967975</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@john...

Whether CHRoNoSS actually did these things or not, is irrelelvent here.
If Bell has a problem with him, I&#039;m sure they can take it up with him - in a more appropriate venue.

You want to troll here for Bell?
Fine with me, really, but if you&#039;re going to participate, I suggest you stick to the topic.  If you have something constructive to say in Bell&#039;s defense (though I highly doubt that), you would be doing them more of a service by presenting that, instead of what you&#039;re doing.

As for the type of customers Bell does want, I would say the definition for that is getting narrower all the time, judging by how many its hemorraging.  I can tell you, they certainly don&#039;t want people like me as customers either.  Not only do I continue to actually use the bandwidth I&#039;ve paid for, but I don&#039;t let them scam me with illegal contract revisions.

Bell only wants &quot;good corporate consumers&quot;.  Those who will continue to pay for a premium connection while only checking e-mail one a week (and not engaging in file sharing), and blindly accepting every illegal concession Bell arbitrarily decides to make on their accounts without a peep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@john&#8230;</p>
<p>Whether CHRoNoSS actually did these things or not, is irrelelvent here.<br />
If Bell has a problem with him, I&#8217;m sure they can take it up with him &#8211; in a more appropriate venue.</p>
<p>You want to troll here for Bell?<br />
Fine with me, really, but if you&#8217;re going to participate, I suggest you stick to the topic.  If you have something constructive to say in Bell&#8217;s defense (though I highly doubt that), you would be doing them more of a service by presenting that, instead of what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>As for the type of customers Bell does want, I would say the definition for that is getting narrower all the time, judging by how many its hemorraging.  I can tell you, they certainly don&#8217;t want people like me as customers either.  Not only do I continue to actually use the bandwidth I&#8217;ve paid for, but I don&#8217;t let them scam me with illegal contract revisions.</p>
<p>Bell only wants &#8220;good corporate consumers&#8221;.  Those who will continue to pay for a premium connection while only checking e-mail one a week (and not engaging in file sharing), and blindly accepting every illegal concession Bell arbitrarily decides to make on their accounts without a peep.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967958</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chronoss we don&#039;t want you as a customer, that is why we disconnected your phone, using someone else&#039;s credit card is illegal by the way and so is stealing pvr boxes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chronoss we don&#8217;t want you as a customer, that is why we disconnected your phone, using someone else&#8217;s credit card is illegal by the way and so is stealing pvr boxes</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967940</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, I was at my regular grocery store.  A sign was posted at the entrance announcing that, by government order, we would now have to check first with this store before buying groceries at another store.

That was a turning point for me.

The next day, I managed to sneak across the DMZ and I settled in Seoul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, I was at my regular grocery store.  A sign was posted at the entrance announcing that, by government order, we would now have to check first with this store before buying groceries at another store.</p>
<p>That was a turning point for me.</p>
<p>The next day, I managed to sneak across the DMZ and I settled in Seoul.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967891</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just say no ?

Rofl ! I went from Bell to ElectronicBox.net for Cable and Phone + i switched my number too. You have no idea how much trouble bell gave me before being able to switch my phone number. If this one pass with the CRTC this is a real JOKE ! I am glad i made the move before. Customer service of small isp is amazing and dedicated !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just say no ?</p>
<p>Rofl ! I went from Bell to ElectronicBox.net for Cable and Phone + i switched my number too. You have no idea how much trouble bell gave me before being able to switch my phone number. If this one pass with the CRTC this is a real JOKE ! I am glad i made the move before. Customer service of small isp is amazing and dedicated !</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967890</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was a real circus to cancel......when you call if you speak english here in quebec.  BELL  has your call is transferred   to another country.....when you do cancel,  very important that they give you a confirmation number and that they email to you  as i did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was a real circus to cancel&#8230;&#8230;when you call if you speak english here in quebec.  BELL  has your call is transferred   to another country&#8230;..when you do cancel,  very important that they give you a confirmation number and that they email to you  as i did</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967881</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For information on TekSavvy I recommend this forum to ask about them and the throttle by pass:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/teksavvy

However, about 20$ of what you pay TekSavvy goes direct in Bell&#039;s pocket, since they are a Bell wholesaler. I don&#039;t like that part. So I would personally tell you to go cable.

But if you don&#039;t want to go cable (say because throttled Rogers is your only other choice), then yes, TekSavvy would be your best bet to by pass the throttle and they have amazing service and very low cost long distance. Worth changing everything over to them to see a nice cost savings + have reliable support that doesn&#039;t dick you around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For information on TekSavvy I recommend this forum to ask about them and the throttle by pass:<br />
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/teksavvy" rel="nofollow">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/teksavvy</a></p>
<p>However, about 20$ of what you pay TekSavvy goes direct in Bell&#8217;s pocket, since they are a Bell wholesaler. I don&#8217;t like that part. So I would personally tell you to go cable.</p>
<p>But if you don&#8217;t want to go cable (say because throttled Rogers is your only other choice), then yes, TekSavvy would be your best bet to by pass the throttle and they have amazing service and very low cost long distance. Worth changing everything over to them to see a nice cost savings + have reliable support that doesn&#8217;t dick you around.</p>
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		<title>By: Orbit</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967880</link>
		<dc:creator>Orbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add Teksavvy does not throttle at any time, if they did I would not have been able to download 960GB last month. The only throttling is on Bit Torrent and thats Bell doing not Teksavvy&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add Teksavvy does not throttle at any time, if they did I would not have been able to download 960GB last month. The only throttling is on Bit Torrent and thats Bell doing not Teksavvy&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Orbit</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967879</link>
		<dc:creator>Orbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Teksavvy is being affected by Bells throttling thanks to the CRTC but they allow MLPPP connections circumventing Bell&#039;s throttling and it works using one DSL connection or more. As for a Company I have never been so happy they are the best, just look on DSL Reports they have a 92% customer rating vs Bell&#039;s 58% rating. When you call tech support you talk to qualified &amp; certified tech&#039;s and not some joe blow reading a script on their screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Teksavvy is being affected by Bells throttling thanks to the CRTC but they allow MLPPP connections circumventing Bell&#8217;s throttling and it works using one DSL connection or more. As for a Company I have never been so happy they are the best, just look on DSL Reports they have a 92% customer rating vs Bell&#8217;s 58% rating. When you call tech support you talk to qualified &amp; certified tech&#8217;s and not some joe blow reading a script on their screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967873</link>
		<dc:creator>Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that Orbit mentioned Teksavvy as an option to using Bell.  My question: Is Teksavvy affected by bandwidth throttling by Bell since my understanding is it&#039;s mostly all Bell&#039;s network across the country and even large ISPs have to lease a chunk of Bell&#039;s network - or am I misinformed?  Does Teksavvy throttle bandwidth with high bandwidth users even on an &#039;unlimited plan&#039;?  I&#039;m checking out my options.  Bell rots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that Orbit mentioned Teksavvy as an option to using Bell.  My question: Is Teksavvy affected by bandwidth throttling by Bell since my understanding is it&#8217;s mostly all Bell&#8217;s network across the country and even large ISPs have to lease a chunk of Bell&#8217;s network &#8211; or am I misinformed?  Does Teksavvy throttle bandwidth with high bandwidth users even on an &#8216;unlimited plan&#8217;?  I&#8217;m checking out my options.  Bell rots.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967859</link>
		<dc:creator>Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 6 months ago I tried to get faster internet service from my little ISP here.  They said the speed would increase by using their fiber optic line they owned in the city instead of Bell&#039;s lines.  Was hoping to go from 5 Mbps to 7 Mbps.  What happened was it actually lowered my overall top download speed from 540 Kps to 420 Kps and they took 25 Kps off my upload.  I called my little local ISP and they said that Bell had obviously modified things on Bell&#039;s end and there was nothing they could do but reset the line back to the way it was.  They tried to reset and then I started to get my bandwidth limited, couldn&#039;t believe it.

Screw you Bell Canada, I don&#039;t even want my phone line with you but all I can do now is go to dry loop DSL so that I don&#039;t feed you my money any more.  I encourage everyone reading these comments to dump Bell Canada right now, don&#039;t wait.  We&#039;re likely a few steps away from being forced to keep Bell since they seem to ass-kiss the CRTC, always get their way with the CRTC, and find a new way to screw their customers.

If anybody has suggestions for a great ISP in northern Ontario that has dry loop/VOIP I&#039;ll check it out and dump Bell Canada as permanently as possible, ASAP.  I&#039;m checking into my ISP but I don&#039;t think they do dry loop yet.  Since I&#039;ve switched long distance calling and internet away from Bell all there&#039;s left to switch is basic phone service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 6 months ago I tried to get faster internet service from my little ISP here.  They said the speed would increase by using their fiber optic line they owned in the city instead of Bell&#8217;s lines.  Was hoping to go from 5 Mbps to 7 Mbps.  What happened was it actually lowered my overall top download speed from 540 Kps to 420 Kps and they took 25 Kps off my upload.  I called my little local ISP and they said that Bell had obviously modified things on Bell&#8217;s end and there was nothing they could do but reset the line back to the way it was.  They tried to reset and then I started to get my bandwidth limited, couldn&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>Screw you Bell Canada, I don&#8217;t even want my phone line with you but all I can do now is go to dry loop DSL so that I don&#8217;t feed you my money any more.  I encourage everyone reading these comments to dump Bell Canada right now, don&#8217;t wait.  We&#8217;re likely a few steps away from being forced to keep Bell since they seem to ass-kiss the CRTC, always get their way with the CRTC, and find a new way to screw their customers.</p>
<p>If anybody has suggestions for a great ISP in northern Ontario that has dry loop/VOIP I&#8217;ll check it out and dump Bell Canada as permanently as possible, ASAP.  I&#8217;m checking into my ISP but I don&#8217;t think they do dry loop yet.  Since I&#8217;ve switched long distance calling and internet away from Bell all there&#8217;s left to switch is basic phone service.</p>
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		<title>By: CHRoNoSS</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967857</link>
		<dc:creator>CHRoNoSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND jon by time your canceling with bell canada , you really do not want ANYHTING TO DO WITH THEM.
i am not alone and ive been pmed many others stories that are afraid to come forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND jon by time your canceling with bell canada , you really do not want ANYHTING TO DO WITH THEM.<br />
i am not alone and ive been pmed many others stories that are afraid to come forward.</p>
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		<title>By: CHRoNoSS</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967855</link>
		<dc:creator>CHRoNoSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCREW YOU BELL
Ya call so we can hijack hte line and try and trick hte person ,find out where htey go and actually screw competition

DO NOT LISTEN DO NOT SPEAK DO NOT DEAL WITH BELL CANADA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCREW YOU BELL<br />
Ya call so we can hijack hte line and try and trick hte person ,find out where htey go and actually screw competition</p>
<p>DO NOT LISTEN DO NOT SPEAK DO NOT DEAL WITH BELL CANADA</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967854</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Worst case scenario, you say ânoâ. Is that so hard?&quot;

Yes it is, as if I should jump through anyone&#039;s hoops to cancel an existing service when the new company will take care of it for me.  The idea of having to contact Bell to cancel their services is utter crap.

*** How about Bell offers the lowest prices and changes every customers&#039; service to a lower price without even having to contact them?  Why should I check with Bell to see if they&#039;ll lower their own prices?  Why not just lower them right now, automatically?  Show some goodwill to their loyal customers?

Why would someone like me cancel Bell&#039;s services?

- They attempt to add another roadblock to their consumers (ie the above article)
- They lied about NOT throttling bandwidth even when they were doing so for months
- They still throttle bittorrent even when independent companies have determined the Bell network doesn&#039;t get congested enough to warrant ANY throttling in the first place
- The customer service is appalling (Bell Sympatico has the worst customer service I&#039;ve encountered, Bell telephone is second worst)
- Bell telemarketing continues even after I&#039;ve politely asked them to remove me from the list.  I receive 4 calls per day from Bell Canada AIC - according to my call display
- When I switched from Bell Sympatico to a local ISP about 5 years ago Bell stopped my phone service cold, no dial-tone for 4 days.  I lost business income because I couldn&#039;t receive MY customers&#039; calls.  After repeated phone calls to Bell they stated there was no problem with my phone line, then they had the balls to tell me they&#039;re recording me after I demanded my service be restored toute suite.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Worst case scenario, you say ânoâ. Is that so hard?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes it is, as if I should jump through anyone&#8217;s hoops to cancel an existing service when the new company will take care of it for me.  The idea of having to contact Bell to cancel their services is utter crap.</p>
<p>*** How about Bell offers the lowest prices and changes every customers&#8217; service to a lower price without even having to contact them?  Why should I check with Bell to see if they&#8217;ll lower their own prices?  Why not just lower them right now, automatically?  Show some goodwill to their loyal customers?</p>
<p>Why would someone like me cancel Bell&#8217;s services?</p>
<p>- They attempt to add another roadblock to their consumers (ie the above article)<br />
- They lied about NOT throttling bandwidth even when they were doing so for months<br />
- They still throttle bittorrent even when independent companies have determined the Bell network doesn&#8217;t get congested enough to warrant ANY throttling in the first place<br />
- The customer service is appalling (Bell Sympatico has the worst customer service I&#8217;ve encountered, Bell telephone is second worst)<br />
- Bell telemarketing continues even after I&#8217;ve politely asked them to remove me from the list.  I receive 4 calls per day from Bell Canada AIC &#8211; according to my call display<br />
- When I switched from Bell Sympatico to a local ISP about 5 years ago Bell stopped my phone service cold, no dial-tone for 4 days.  I lost business income because I couldn&#8217;t receive MY customers&#8217; calls.  After repeated phone calls to Bell they stated there was no problem with my phone line, then they had the balls to tell me they&#8217;re recording me after I demanded my service be restored toute suite.</p>
<p>I could go on and on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a company genuinely wants a good solid base of customers, it will offer sensible pricing, good service, and respectful treatment... UP FRONT!  Companies that do this don&#039;t need to cry to the CRTC for motherly protection, nor do they have to worry about their customers suddenly walking out.

People spend waaaay too much time, energy, and sanity battling it out with Bell over just the basics, before deciding to switch.  And, Bell coming in with a sweeter offer at that time (never sooner!) only serves as the final insult.

Bell&#039;s hemorraging, indeed.
May it bleed to death, and shock the CRTC into a fatal heart attack as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a company genuinely wants a good solid base of customers, it will offer sensible pricing, good service, and respectful treatment&#8230; UP FRONT!  Companies that do this don&#8217;t need to cry to the CRTC for motherly protection, nor do they have to worry about their customers suddenly walking out.</p>
<p>People spend waaaay too much time, energy, and sanity battling it out with Bell over just the basics, before deciding to switch.  And, Bell coming in with a sweeter offer at that time (never sooner!) only serves as the final insult.</p>
<p>Bell&#8217;s hemorraging, indeed.<br />
May it bleed to death, and shock the CRTC into a fatal heart attack as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18549/comment-page-1#comment-967850</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john said - &quot;Worst case scenario, you say ânoâ. Is that so hard?&quot;


But that&#039;s not what will happen.  You will probably have to phone them in an attempt to cancel, be put on hold, be relayed to a whole bunch of professional bullshitters who will try and convince you not to go (while not taking &quot;no&quot; for an answer until THEY are done talking), then be forced to respond to a 10-minute &quot;customer satisfaction exit survey&quot;, get delayed cancellations, etc. until you get so fed up with wasting your time that you just decide to stay with Bell. I bet dollars to donuts they have something like that up their sleeve. After all, they don&#039;t want you to get a better rate, they just want to keep the priviledge of being able to gouge you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john said &#8211; &#8220;Worst case scenario, you say ânoâ. Is that so hard?&#8221;</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not what will happen.  You will probably have to phone them in an attempt to cancel, be put on hold, be relayed to a whole bunch of professional bullshitters who will try and convince you not to go (while not taking &#8220;no&#8221; for an answer until THEY are done talking), then be forced to respond to a 10-minute &#8220;customer satisfaction exit survey&#8221;, get delayed cancellations, etc. until you get so fed up with wasting your time that you just decide to stay with Bell. I bet dollars to donuts they have something like that up their sleeve. After all, they don&#8217;t want you to get a better rate, they just want to keep the priviledge of being able to gouge you.</p>
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