p2pnet news view P2P:- “Dont they learn anything? Consumers do NOT want this!”

That was Robert in a p2pnet Reader’s Write, wondering if, “every ‘artist’ organization (Actors Guild, **AA, SOCAN, ASCAP, etc ) had been, “sniffing from the same bottle of glue?”

Glue, Robert? High-grade Peruvian marching powder, more probably. Look who we’re talking about.

Under discussion was the fact the CRTC (Canadian Radio-television Telecommunications Commission) is, “reviewing its current approach to new media content, with actors and arts groups doing their best to persuade it that the Net is in dire need of regulation,” said p2net.

“DVD/Blu-Ray is super clear right? Full of extra features?” – Robert said, adding:

“Amazing sound? But the same CRAP content! The only way you’ll buy the content is if they pretty it up with technology, swearing, violence, and lots of T&A. Anyone see The Lake House? Watch Il Mare, it’s Korean, but MUCH better! Content from Hollywood and the labels sucks, and their attempt to control your devices so you can’t use them for anything but what THEY want is proof. Will those PVR’s work on public broadcast networks? Probably not because they can’t afford the license for the ‘Flag.’ Is that an American flag by the way (I know it is a watermark signal — at least I think it is that)?

“We consumers STILL have control. Spread the word, do NOT buy anything that’s locked down, let your dollar speak and it WILL work! Then vote, write to your MP, write to the PM/Prez, write to support groups and if you can help them with research or legal aid or financial aid, do it. The more we unite and take on these self-interested, outdated, unwilling to adapt groups and lobbyists the better we’ll all be.”

Then, “I agree, says Orbit »»»

I have never bought anything with DRM and this week I canceled my digital cable and HDTV service got tired of paying for crap. Hollywood these days is more about money and conning people into believing that a movie is great by showing all the best parts in the preview. For me Hollywood puts out about 6 great movies a year that I would pay for and hundreds of crappy titles like Underworld 3; there’s $20 and 2 hours of my time I won’t get back. Blu-Ray movies are a huge scam they cost almost the same to produce as DVD’s but they charge twice as much.

And,  “So I’m not the only one that has come to this conclusion nor solution to it, I see,” says an anonymous poster »»»

I’ve never seen a blu-ray, have no desire to. I don’t have digital tv. You see I dropped out of tv watching several years back as I came to the same conclusion that seems to be coming from this article.

I don’t buy DRM goods, in fact, I’ve been on boycott since it all started with sue’em all. I have no intention of changing that. Not that it means a lot because most of the artists I occasionally hear from others, leave me wondering where the artistry is.

Hollydud is bankrupt for new ideas. How many times are we seeing remakes of remakes coming out, yet once again? I have no interest in seeing those remakes. I already know about the story line and how it should go. Bigger explosions and fancier fx don’t make a movie.

I no longer have any sort of input hooked to my analog tv other than a dvd player. I still have movies I was buying because I switched to doing movies with the start of the personal boycott of music. When movies joined that sue’em all, they too got put on the list of things I won’t buy.

The funny thing is, I don’t feel I am missing out on anything. I sure don’t miss the mountains of replays that come one after another on pay for view. You get maybe two weeks out of the month if you are lucky of new stuff. Yet you pay for it all month as if it is all new programming. That’s a waste of money to me and I hate to waste money, especially in today’s economy.

Like Orbit says above, there might be 5 to 6 movies a year that might be worth watching. The rest is trash and akin to the filler used in music albums to fill out the disc. They’re just filler to stuff into the stream but have no real redeeming values to make it worth my time and money to spend watching them. When you walk away from a movie, feeling like you got ripped off, the next time you tend to remember that dissatisfaction. When it reaches a high enough discontent level, you finally realize it just isn’t worth it.

“I can’t believe that they can get away with asking for more,” says Canadian »»»

We (Canadians) all pay extra tax on recordable media, anything that stores data which is a form of extortion, albeit apparent legal extortion.

I’ve paid the extra tax on my MP3 players, DVD players, disk drives, etc. I’ve held up my end of the bargain but now they want to break the deal and put me at risk of civil or criminal charges and/or charge me even more money???

Where the hell has the extra tax money been going you ask? That’s right, the artists are going after the wrong people again – don’t bite the hand that feeds you in the first place and don’t slap away the hand that pays the extra tax.

***The consumers are not the ones gouging the artists*** We, the consumers are tired of getting f’ed over and being without proper/legal recourse and now we’re acting out.

Recent example:

I buy Grand Theft Auto IV for the PC, it doesn’t work, video is choppy, game is unplayable. My computer exceeds the system requirements considerably. Can’t take it back to the store, policy is no returns on software because of `piracy’. I’m accused of being guilty before my day in court, I don’t even get a day in court. I contact Rockstar and they say do this and this, and well, it doesn’t work. In the end they say you’ll have to wait for a patch to come out but we don’t know when that will be, but soon. Two months later and a lot of wasted time and FINALLY the game works after the 2nd patch. I paid for the game two months ago. When I buy it, I expect it to work without hassle, right out of the box.

Imagine buying a toaster, it doesn’t work, the store won’t take it back because they have a policy on toaster piracy. With some gaffer tape patches and an additional circuit board that you the consumer has to install, but wait, you have no wiring or soldering experience and you don’t own the basic tools to do so you get the gear and learn and one day the toaster FINALLY works after two months of fiddling with it on and off.

And there’s an interesting view from Ben, who declares »»»

This is absolutely ridiculous. I can’t believe there are people in the world dumb enough to request this sort of regulation. Has Canada suddenly gone communist? Why the mass censorship.

Personally, I won’t touch blu-ray I hate it. I don’t understand the point of it as DVDs are good enough for me. To me, blu-ray is a symbol of our materialistic, wasteful, and `all about me’ lifestyle. I see them as one of those annoying fads and everyone seems to be jumping on the pointless bandwagon. We don’t need HD and I hope blu-ray dies.

I also don’t need Hollywood as I see the all the Hollywood movies three years before they are made I buy the original versions from Asia. Gojira, Ringu, Kairo, Ju-On, A Tale of Two Sisters, My Sassy Girl I saw them all in their original superior versions the remakes are utter trash and it should be illegal to subject people to them.

In the last year I have spent about $800 on the music industry but not the North American music industry. I bought Japanese music Hello! Project music to be exact. I DOWNLOADED IT FOR FREE from the internet, liked it, and then AFTER DOWNLOADING IT I WENT AND BOUGHT IT. I actually found it on youtube you know, that site Viacom is trying to sue out of existence. See that industry? My downloading caused me to spend $800 on music. You don’t need to try and get money from the ISPs as those of us downloading for free on p2p or from websites discover music we wouldn’t have otherwise discovered and then we go purchase it and THEN you get your money. Sure the music I found and bought was not owned by the RIAA so they didn’t make a cent, but that’s called COMPETITION something companies are supposed to do compete with each other it seems they are too afraid to do that though I guess they have no confidence in their product (though Hello! Project isn’t exactly wonderful music itself either).

If you haven’t figured it out, I am a fan of Asian movies and music. If they try to lock the internet up, I won’t be able to access websites related to my hobbies and obviously I’ll reject this whole system all together. I don’t think I am the only one who will reject it though there are many more of us who will reject it as well. I would like to be able to access Godzilla’s Japanese websites, Japanese shopping websites, and Hello! Project’s website don’t you dare take those away from me ever.

This is nonsense regulate the internet pure stupidity. Did these companies make the internet? No everyone made it everyone should be free to use it how they wish.

Supposedly independent ‘reports’ and ’studies’

Here’s a suggestion from me for what IMHO would be a really interesting and what would become, inevitably, a widely reported research paper:

We’ve had all kinds of supposedly independent ‘reports’ and ’studies’ from the likes of the NPD Group and the Institute for Policy Innovation explaining why Hollywood and the Big 4 labels are in trouble.

Excuses inevitably kick off with ‘piracy’ and ‘illegal’ file sharing as the prime causes, followed by the increasing popularity of video games, online and off, DVDs, that because of all the thieving going on, Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony BMG  don’t have enough money to find and promote new performers; and, hundreds of thousands of Time Warner, Viacom, Fox, Sony, NBC Universal and Disney staff have been thrown onto the streets because the studios can’t afford to pay them.

Could there be another possibility?

Are the views expressed by Robert and Orbit and anonymous and Canadian and Ben typical rather than radical?

I’d bet if someone were to poll  customers – they stopped being ‘consumers’ a long time ago – they’d find there’s been a huge shift in buying habits and that hundreds of millions of people around the world, tired of being called criminals and thieves and being sued by by the entertainment cartels, have weaned themselves off corporate ‘product’.

Permanently.

They have better ways to spend their money than in providing emergency life support for Hollydud and the Big 4 dinosaurs.

Movies and music are as popular as they ever were – just not from the cartels.

We started them off, and now we’re taking it back.

No need to stay tuned. Just keep up the good work.

Jon Newton – p2pnet

February , 2009

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