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Facebook lays claim to dead man’s page

p2pnet news view Advertising | P2P:- Can Mark Zuckerberg and his Facebook team get anything right?

At the moment they’re suffering a huge backlash of outrage expressed by members who’ve once again caught Mr Z & Co with their pants around their ankles.

‘Please don’t leave us!’ – they’re begging. ‘We didn’t mean it!’

But they did, of course.

‘Snake Oil’ and his crew figure your data are their data, and they can do anything they want with them.

Now,  “It is great that organizations such as yours have such an impact for consumers,” says Stephanie Bemister in a letter to Facebook cited by the Consumerist. In it, “Please accept my heartfelt thanks for all you do,” she says.

But, she goes on, “I have a problem which has not been mentioned so far and I have to say I am heartbroken, angry and am lost for words.”

What would that be?

“Facebook thinks it knows better than the sister of the deceased journalist Bill Bemister about what to do with his Facebook page,” says the story, continuing Stephanie sent them a copy of brother’s death certificate and asked for the page to be deleted for privacy and respect purposes.”

But unlike every other single social networking site she dealt with, Facebook refused to co-operate, says the Consumerist, quoting her letter in full, to wit »»»

My brother, William Bemister, died very suddenly mid November. He lived in Oxford, England. I went to the UK to hold a service for my brother who was divorced and lived on his own. However, if anyone believed he was just another single, and lonely middle-aged man with no friends or family to speak of, this was far from the truth. He was a successful Nazi hunter, Emmy award winning investigative journalist with thousands of contacts all over the world. He was about to start filming his next documentary, ‘Admissible Evidence.’

He had a Facebook page. The day before he died he promised me he would accept me on his friends list. We spoke on the phone two, three times a week. And were very close even though thousands of miles apart. Also on his friends list were my two daughters, his nieces. He only knew, personally, three other women, the rest of his friends were strangers he met through Facebook Oxford links.

The dilemma I had was that he had posted a lot of personal information such as phone number, company website, email address. If you have ever lost someone you will appreciate that when someone dies you need to have this information removed quickly for several reasons: for security purposes, to stop strangers incessantly phoning and emailing the deceased and the worst of all, the sheer grief of dealing with hundreds of people who believe he is still alive and need to be informed of his death. It just made sense to remove his membership.

I emailed their ‘privacy’ division, attached a copy of his death certificate and asked them politely to remove his membership. Facebook refused with the following comment:

“Per our policy for deceased users, we have memorialized this person’s account. This removes certain more sensitive information and sets privacy so that only confirmed friends can see the profile or find the person in search. The Wall remains so that friends and family can leave posts in remembrance.”

Facebook is the only group social site that has refused to remove his membership. I am sickened by them. My two daughters are heartbroken as his face still remains on their own member’s page. They will not delete him off their own pages or we will never know when or how his site will be deleted. There are strangers in his membership list who can write whatever they wish on his Wall and I, his next of kin and sister, cannot even view his page. It is horrible. How can Facebook be so insensitive to the wishes of a deceased member’s family? I have never in my life felt so betrayed, angry and sickened.

What do they think they are doing? What if a teen dies for example. Parents are rarely invited onto their child’s friends’ list. Can you imagine what a parent would feel if they received such an inexplicable email from this company?

I have spoken to a number of advocate groups. They all say the same thing. They have never heard of such a thing, think it’s disgraceful and suggest I would probably have more luck writing to Mark Zuckerberg a personal letter. If this issue is not common now, it will become a serious problem in the future as Internet users find that they have no rights over deceased family members.

Please help.
Sincerely,

Stephanie Bemister
Seattle, WA

Mr Z doesn’ t need this on top of all his other problems and there’ll be an anxious and unctuous response from him, or from one of his minions.

It’ll be interesting see what he has to say.

Meanwhile, “While the policy is surely a well-intentioned ‘default’ move, if the family requests for it to be taken down that request should be honored,” says the Consumerist, adding:

“If Stephanie is the estate’s executor, it’s not just ethics, but the law.”

Definitely stay tuned.

(Thanks, Adam)


pants around their ankles – Please don`t leave Facebook! – Zuckerberg begs, February 20, 2009


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7 Responses to “Facebook lays claim to dead man’s page”

  1. Reader's Write Says:

    So not only does he want ownership of anything on face book after the account is deleted, but also when the person dies?

    Is that in the new TOS as well?

    Upon death, you agree facebook owns your account and anything contained within?

  2. Davis Freeberg Says:

    While it doesn’t address the heart of the issue, she could probably get access to his primary email account, have a password sent there and then delete the account using his info. I’m not sure how tough it would be to get access to his email, but it might be easier then trying to negotiate with Facebook.

  3. Reader's Write Says:

    I think the amount of embarrassment this could cause Facebook with the publicity it will attract will only damage their reputation further. I think it’s getting to the time to boycott.

  4. Reader's Write Says:

    I so feel so sorry for this ladies loss. If her two daughters are on their uncle’s Facebook, then she could visit her daughters and view her brother’s facebook while they view his account, and one of the nieces could write on their uncles wall letting everyone know of his passing till they get this matter solved.

  5. Adam Reimer Says:

    Hey, heres an update from consumerist:

    http://consumerist.com/5157835/update-facebook-agrees-to-take-down-dead-relatives-page

    Facebook rep writes:
    Hi there, all the user has to do is identify themselves as the next of kin and we are happy to close the account. The user in this instance only said she was a relative and used a different name (not the same last name as the user), otherwise we would have granted the request. We should have asked the user for more info and, for that mistake, we apologize. However, it is a simply misunderstanding and your story and their note does not reflect our actual policy.

    When we find out a user is deceased, we automatically memorialize an account. Users can also ask to have an account memorialized here: [www.facebook.com] This means that it is frozen (no more friends can be added) and the privacy options are made more strict (friends only). The vast majority of people who contact us about deceased friends want these records maintained so that they and others can remember and celebrate the person. Here is an example: [www.nytimes.com] However, as I mentioned, we’re happy to close the account, too, if the person identifies themselves as someone who should have that authority.
    Sorry for the confusion.

    Barry Schnitt
    Facebook Communications

  6. Devil's Advocate Says:

    Facebook is, quite simply…. full of Schnitt!

  7. Reader's Write Says:

    why can’t ppl c that facebook, and myspace for that matter, are the sony bmgs of the net? devils advocate hit the nail on its head!

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