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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18594/comment-page-1#comment-968218</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert
&quot;Whatâs this about the UK and photos of police?&quot;

The UK passed a new law a week ago (covered in one of the M&amp;M postings) making it against the law to take a pic with a cop in it. Jail time, fines and so forth. All while the UK has the most amount of camera&#039;s on the street in the world.

Journalists, photographers, media people and many other are pissed. Film/take a pic of a cop. Against the law now in the UK.

Think of the implications...

Think of the unbalanced implications.

The UK is the model of things to come here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert<br />
&#8220;Whatâs this about the UK and photos of police?&#8221;</p>
<p>The UK passed a new law a week ago (covered in one of the M&amp;M postings) making it against the law to take a pic with a cop in it. Jail time, fines and so forth. All while the UK has the most amount of camera&#8217;s on the street in the world.</p>
<p>Journalists, photographers, media people and many other are pissed. Film/take a pic of a cop. Against the law now in the UK.</p>
<p>Think of the implications&#8230;</p>
<p>Think of the unbalanced implications.</p>
<p>The UK is the model of things to come here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18594/comment-page-1#comment-968204</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; So naive. And as others have said, it wonât stop at DPI. They will push and push until everything is monitored. And thereâs no accountability; no one is punished for false information or mistakes. Lives of the innocent will undoubtedly be ruined and the powers that be will get away with it. As long as we have people who continue to sacrifice freedom for security, weâll see civil liberties eroded. &quot;

 This has all happened before.
 We&#039;ve forgotten history, soon we&#039;ll enjoy the repeat.
 It looks like a race to see who gets to play the Nazi&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; So naive. And as others have said, it wonât stop at DPI. They will push and push until everything is monitored. And thereâs no accountability; no one is punished for false information or mistakes. Lives of the innocent will undoubtedly be ruined and the powers that be will get away with it. As long as we have people who continue to sacrifice freedom for security, weâll see civil liberties eroded. &#8221;</p>
<p> This has all happened before.<br />
 We&#8217;ve forgotten history, soon we&#8217;ll enjoy the repeat.<br />
 It looks like a race to see who gets to play the Nazi&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18594/comment-page-1#comment-968203</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHRoNoSS:
The people in the caves are using highly sophisticated communications equipment, combined with messengers.  Are Afghans really into the internet?  Do they have the infrastructure to support it?

Perhaps providing broadband was not one of the Taliban&#039;s directives while it was in power and that&#039;s why they don&#039;t have it.

What&#039;s this about the UK and photos of police?

All:
Of course it is going to far.  The problem is too many people actually believe they will be safer or their children will be safer by more strict rules and by privacy invasion.  &quot;I have nothing to hide&quot; is their defense, along with the belief no one will really be doing that to them.  I have tried to argue about civil liberties and how they will be monitoring your information, your net usage, your phone usage, cameras in your home, etc... His reply?  &quot;If it helps them find the terrorist next door to me, then it is find with me.&quot;

So naive.  And as others have said, it won&#039;t stop at DPI.  They will push and push until everything is monitored.  And there&#039;s no accountability; no one is punished for false information or mistakes.  Lives of the innocent will undoubtedly be ruined and the powers that be will get away with it.  As long as we have people who continue to sacrifice freedom for security, we&#039;ll see civil liberties eroded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHRoNoSS:<br />
The people in the caves are using highly sophisticated communications equipment, combined with messengers.  Are Afghans really into the internet?  Do they have the infrastructure to support it?</p>
<p>Perhaps providing broadband was not one of the Taliban&#8217;s directives while it was in power and that&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t have it.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s this about the UK and photos of police?</p>
<p>All:<br />
Of course it is going to far.  The problem is too many people actually believe they will be safer or their children will be safer by more strict rules and by privacy invasion.  &#8220;I have nothing to hide&#8221; is their defense, along with the belief no one will really be doing that to them.  I have tried to argue about civil liberties and how they will be monitoring your information, your net usage, your phone usage, cameras in your home, etc&#8230; His reply?  &#8220;If it helps them find the terrorist next door to me, then it is find with me.&#8221;</p>
<p>So naive.  And as others have said, it won&#8217;t stop at DPI.  They will push and push until everything is monitored.  And there&#8217;s no accountability; no one is punished for false information or mistakes.  Lives of the innocent will undoubtedly be ruined and the powers that be will get away with it.  As long as we have people who continue to sacrifice freedom for security, we&#8217;ll see civil liberties eroded.</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomcast</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18594/comment-page-1#comment-968198</link>
		<dc:creator>Comeoncomcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert

Not that I would rewrite that information (A)

Its just going to far, I think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert</p>
<p>Not that I would rewrite that information (A)</p>
<p>Its just going to far, I think</p>
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		<title>By: CHRoNoSS</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya and that UK law about police in photos is really not about some terrorist its about YOUR right to a free press and the ability to stop them form abuses and to nail anyone taking pictures at rallies and also at any repeat any dignitary meetings.
Wonder how that will play in the news ......now all they have to do is place a few cops about and poof no news UNLESS they want it.
in case ya don&#039;t get it Afghanistan&#039;s only internet is in kabul and the hills and caves where osama is doesn&#039;t have it, and they don&#039;t use cell phones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya and that UK law about police in photos is really not about some terrorist its about YOUR right to a free press and the ability to stop them form abuses and to nail anyone taking pictures at rallies and also at any repeat any dignitary meetings.<br />
Wonder how that will play in the news &#8230;&#8230;now all they have to do is place a few cops about and poof no news UNLESS they want it.<br />
in case ya don&#8217;t get it Afghanistan&#8217;s only internet is in kabul and the hills and caves where osama is doesn&#8217;t have it, and they don&#8217;t use cell phones</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert,

it won&#039;t end there. Why do you think the first 3 articles above have people who have been tortured for nothing?

Bad info, partial info etc... This will be used by national/homeland security and people will be off to Egypt to have their genitals slashed for what they do online or who they talk to. The people above have already been tortured due to guilt by association.

This any different? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert,</p>
<p>it won&#8217;t end there. Why do you think the first 3 articles above have people who have been tortured for nothing?</p>
<p>Bad info, partial info etc&#8230; This will be used by national/homeland security and people will be off to Egypt to have their genitals slashed for what they do online or who they talk to. The people above have already been tortured due to guilt by association.</p>
<p>This any different? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18594/comment-page-1#comment-968183</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Comeonecomcast:
How could you handle the rewrite of a packet when it was sniffed?  There might be a liability issue if the OS running on the router detects packet sniffing software, changes the contents of the packet, allows sniffing, and resets the contents back before passing it on.  Would that not impact the throughput of the router?

Packet sniffing is already marketed, see BlueCoat Systems.  They make Proxy servers that analyze the packets that come through with very little impact on performance.  I can&#039;t say much more because I interviewed with them (Dec 2008) and went to their info session back in 2006.  But they have some amazing technology.

I don&#039;t know who their customers are though or how they plan to handle 128-bit encryption without the key, that&#039;s assuming BT uses encryption.  I haven&#039;t a clue, I&#039;ve never used it.

What would really be helpful is for the government to say &quot;OK, we&#039;re going to demand your ISP keep track of your surf records and file sharing and all that, but, anytime we need it, we&#039;ll have an oversight committee who&#039;ll ensure no third party access is permitted.  We&#039;ll only allow police to access this information for pedo cases.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Comeonecomcast:<br />
How could you handle the rewrite of a packet when it was sniffed?  There might be a liability issue if the OS running on the router detects packet sniffing software, changes the contents of the packet, allows sniffing, and resets the contents back before passing it on.  Would that not impact the throughput of the router?</p>
<p>Packet sniffing is already marketed, see BlueCoat Systems.  They make Proxy servers that analyze the packets that come through with very little impact on performance.  I can&#8217;t say much more because I interviewed with them (Dec 2008) and went to their info session back in 2006.  But they have some amazing technology.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who their customers are though or how they plan to handle 128-bit encryption without the key, that&#8217;s assuming BT uses encryption.  I haven&#8217;t a clue, I&#8217;ve never used it.</p>
<p>What would really be helpful is for the government to say &#8220;OK, we&#8217;re going to demand your ISP keep track of your surf records and file sharing and all that, but, anytime we need it, we&#8217;ll have an oversight committee who&#8217;ll ensure no third party access is permitted.  We&#8217;ll only allow police to access this information for pedo cases.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomcast</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18594/comment-page-1#comment-968179</link>
		<dc:creator>Comeoncomcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love someone to write some software where you could add or rewrite the information on packets when someone sniffs them

Dont stick your nose where it dosent belong!!!

and the Government has no right or place to say to ISPs to keep logs Catch Murderers!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love someone to write some software where you could add or rewrite the information on packets when someone sniffs them</p>
<p>Dont stick your nose where it dosent belong!!!</p>
<p>and the Government has no right or place to say to ISPs to keep logs Catch Murderers!!</p>
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		<title>By: Comeoncomcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comeoncomcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youd think a bank could protect themselves from such scams but pwnage lol

What are those logs going to contain? I guess the Police will hate to learn what encryption is the hard way =P Jumbled letters and Numbers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youd think a bank could protect themselves from such scams but pwnage lol</p>
<p>What are those logs going to contain? I guess the Police will hate to learn what encryption is the hard way =P Jumbled letters and Numbers</p>
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