Eircom says it won’t block The Pirate Bay
p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:- “In a first for Ireland and perhaps anywhere, Warner Music, EMI, Vivendi Universal and Sony BMG last year targeted Eircom, an individual ISP, demanding it, ‘take measures to prevent its networks being used for the illegal downloading of music’,” said p2pnet, quoting the Irish Times.
Eircom without reservation caved in to the Big 4, “not only leaving its customers wide open to attack, but also promising to provide the labels with ammunition,” we said.
But, “Ireland’s largest ISP won’t block The Pirate Bay – the embattled BitTorrent search engine and tracker — absent a court order, he IDG News Service has a spokesman saying.
“Eircom is aware of copyright infringement issues but will not block The Pirate Bay unless major record labels can obtain a court order requiring it and other ISPs (Internet service providers) to do so,” he said.
TPB is now in Day Eight of a trial in which the entertainment cartels are trying to close it down with IFPI boss John Kennedy trying to assert the reduction in sales in the music industry is directly attributable to illegal downloading, citing TPB as a prime factor.
Three-strikes-and-you’re out
In a ‘landmark settlement’ at the High Court in Dublin between the Big 4 and Eircom, “will give the labels the firepower they need to curb music piracy,” said Silicon Republic.
It’ll operate a three-strikes-and-you’re out policy “against illegal peer-to-peer (P2P) downloaders, while also agreeing to work with data provided by the big four labels to help them pinpoint and pursue illegal downloaders and uploaders,” said the story, adding:
“The ruling means a precedent has been set, and all other ISPs in the Irish market will now have to co-operate with the music industry.
“The move will have global ramifications as other labels in other jurisdictions will be able to follow a similar route to punish illegal downloaders.”
p2pnet – Eircom caves in to Big 4 labels, January 29, 2009
Irish Times – Eircom taken to court over illegal music downloads, March 10, 2008
IDG News Service – Irish ISP: We Won’t Block The Pirate Bay, February 24, 2009
directly attributable – The Pirate Bay vs Them: Day Eight, February 25, 2009
Silicon Republic – Big four music labels and Eircom in landmark piracy settlement, January 28, 2009
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February 25th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
They still don’t address the issue of legal file sharing! If only there was a way to get people to realize good music shared for free, as requested by the artist, was hurt by the cartels efforts to block file sharing copyright content. If only there was a way to raise funds and sue them at their own game, hindering exposure and destroying a distribution system required for those people to sustain income.
Of course when sued the cartels would contradict themselves saying “you can’t make money from free” even when the plaintiffs have logs and logs of data (here’s where the ISP logs are handy) proving otherwise.
Any ideas ? or maybe we should find an openSSL chat forum and discuss ideas there on how to turn tables?
February 25th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
haha useless ya goto the site get logged even encrypted and guess what they will say being there = guilty no matter the proof , after they don’t have any legal proof you actually did anything any how , that is what a court is for.
if i shoot someone in front a 5000 people , you may say i am guilty but that is not determined until the facts are heard buy a court , as we all are in effect guilty to the facts.
great system everyone is guilty and then you have to prove your innocence at YOUR expense.
February 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Let’s point out that p2p sites and technologies also permit artists to efficiently, cheaply and globally distribute their material themselves. This is another side of the ‘direct threat’ to organizations such as the music industry, albeit one that is not publicised or often presumed. Sometimes I wonder whether obstructing and denying this new ability for artists to cut out the middle man is as much a factor in
the RIAAs/MPAAs/etc. actions as their desire to prevent piracy. In fact, sometimes I wonder whether it is the MAIN factor in their actions and the so-called “war-on-piracy” is simply the means to achieve this. Some might label this under “conspiracy theory” but such is the integrity of these organizations that it is within reason to entertain thoughts such as this.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:12 am
@Sun King:
If only we could prove it and get the media to carry the story, we’d make great headway and the artists who support the **AA would change their tune.