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	<title>Comments on: Eircom says it won&#8217;t block The Pirate Bay</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sun King:

If only we could prove it and get the media to carry the story, we&#039;d make great headway and the artists who support the **AA would change their tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sun King:</p>
<p>If only we could prove it and get the media to carry the story, we&#8217;d make great headway and the artists who support the **AA would change their tune.</p>
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		<title>By: Sun King</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18622/comment-page-1#comment-968429</link>
		<dc:creator>Sun King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s point out that p2p sites and technologies also permit artists to efficiently, cheaply and globally distribute their material themselves. This is another side of the &#039;direct threat&#039; to organizations such as the music industry, albeit one that is not publicised or often presumed. Sometimes I wonder whether obstructing and denying this new ability for artists to cut out the middle man is as much a factor in 
the RIAAs/MPAAs/etc. actions as their desire to prevent piracy. In fact, sometimes I wonder whether it is the MAIN factor in their actions and the so-called &quot;war-on-piracy&quot; is simply the means to achieve this. Some might label this under &quot;conspiracy theory&quot; but such is the integrity of these organizations that it is within reason to entertain thoughts such as this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s point out that p2p sites and technologies also permit artists to efficiently, cheaply and globally distribute their material themselves. This is another side of the &#8216;direct threat&#8217; to organizations such as the music industry, albeit one that is not publicised or often presumed. Sometimes I wonder whether obstructing and denying this new ability for artists to cut out the middle man is as much a factor in<br />
the RIAAs/MPAAs/etc. actions as their desire to prevent piracy. In fact, sometimes I wonder whether it is the MAIN factor in their actions and the so-called &#8220;war-on-piracy&#8221; is simply the means to achieve this. Some might label this under &#8220;conspiracy theory&#8221; but such is the integrity of these organizations that it is within reason to entertain thoughts such as this.</p>
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		<title>By: dum isp</title>
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		<dc:creator>dum isp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha useless ya goto the site get logged even encrypted  and guess what they will say being there = guilty no matter the proof , after they don&#039;t have any legal proof you actually did anything any how , that is what a court is for.

if i shoot someone in front a 5000 people , you may say i am guilty but that is not determined until the facts are heard buy a court , as we all are in effect guilty to the facts.

great system everyone is guilty and then you have to prove your innocence at YOUR expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha useless ya goto the site get logged even encrypted  and guess what they will say being there = guilty no matter the proof , after they don&#8217;t have any legal proof you actually did anything any how , that is what a court is for.</p>
<p>if i shoot someone in front a 5000 people , you may say i am guilty but that is not determined until the facts are heard buy a court , as we all are in effect guilty to the facts.</p>
<p>great system everyone is guilty and then you have to prove your innocence at YOUR expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18622/comment-page-1#comment-968353</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They still don&#039;t address the issue of legal file sharing!  If only there was a way to get people to realize good music shared for free, as requested by the artist, was hurt by the cartels efforts to block file sharing copyright content.  If only there was a way to raise funds and sue them at their own game, hindering exposure and destroying a distribution system required for those people to sustain income.

Of course when sued the cartels would contradict themselves saying &quot;you can&#039;t make money from free&quot; even when the plaintiffs have logs and logs of data (here&#039;s where the ISP logs are handy) proving otherwise.

Any ideas ? or maybe we should find an openSSL chat forum and discuss ideas there on how to turn tables?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still don&#8217;t address the issue of legal file sharing!  If only there was a way to get people to realize good music shared for free, as requested by the artist, was hurt by the cartels efforts to block file sharing copyright content.  If only there was a way to raise funds and sue them at their own game, hindering exposure and destroying a distribution system required for those people to sustain income.</p>
<p>Of course when sued the cartels would contradict themselves saying &#8220;you can&#8217;t make money from free&#8221; even when the plaintiffs have logs and logs of data (here&#8217;s where the ISP logs are handy) proving otherwise.</p>
<p>Any ideas ? or maybe we should find an openSSL chat forum and discuss ideas there on how to turn tables?</p>
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