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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-969060</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and about Fairey, you neglected to tell us about THIS:

&quot;Fairey has come under criticism for appropriating others&#039; artwork into his own while failing to provide attribution for the work used.[35] However, he has threatened to sue artists for the same technique. Austin, Texas graphic designer Baxter Orr did his own take on Fairey&#039;s work in a piece called Protect, with the iconic Obey Giant face covered by a SARS respiratory mask.[36] He started selling prints through his website marketed as his own work. On April 23, 2008 Orr received a signed cease-and-desist order from Fairey&#039;s attorneys, telling him to pull Protect from sale because they alleged it violated Fairey&#039;s trademark. Fairey threatened to sue, calling the designer a &quot;parasite&quot;.[37]

In 2009 it was revealed that the HOPE poster was based on a copyrighted photograph taken in April 2006 by Mannie Garcia while on assignment for the Associated Press (AP), which wants credit and compensation for the work.[38] However, Garcia believes that he personally owns the copyright for the photo, and has said, &quot;If you put all the legal stuff away, I’m so proud of the photograph and that Fairey did what he did artistically with it, and the effect it&#039;s had.&quot;[39] Fairey feels his use of it falls within the legal definition of fair use.[40] Lawyers for both sides were discussing an amicable agreement.[41] Fairey, however, ultimately filed a federal lawsuit against the Associated Press, seeking a declaratory judgment that his use of the AP photograph was protected by the fair use doctrine and so did not infringe their copyright.&quot;

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey#Legal_issues_with_appropriation_and_fair_use

    My GOD but you&#039;re stupid, Sam.  We&#039;re not just talking Sonny Bono &quot;Copyright is forever minus a day&quot; stupidity.  We&#039;re not even talking &quot;Valenti&#039;s Boston Strangler speech&quot; stupidity.  We&#039;re talking dumb-as-a-bag-of-wet-dogshit levels of stupid.

   Sorry if I offended you because I &quot;cut and pasted&quot; something.  (Gee, and here all this time I thought I was simply providing off-site references for the stuff I mentioned.)  Wow, it&#039;s so difficult being a &quot;backwoods amateur&quot;, how can you EVER expect me to do better?

   I mean, Sam, trust me: my fondest wish in the whole wide world is to get to be &quot;a real contender&quot; like you, someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and about Fairey, you neglected to tell us about THIS:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fairey has come under criticism for appropriating others&#8217; artwork into his own while failing to provide attribution for the work used.[35] However, he has threatened to sue artists for the same technique. Austin, Texas graphic designer Baxter Orr did his own take on Fairey&#8217;s work in a piece called Protect, with the iconic Obey Giant face covered by a SARS respiratory mask.[36] He started selling prints through his website marketed as his own work. On April 23, 2008 Orr received a signed cease-and-desist order from Fairey&#8217;s attorneys, telling him to pull Protect from sale because they alleged it violated Fairey&#8217;s trademark. Fairey threatened to sue, calling the designer a &#8220;parasite&#8221;.[37]</p>
<p>In 2009 it was revealed that the HOPE poster was based on a copyrighted photograph taken in April 2006 by Mannie Garcia while on assignment for the Associated Press (AP), which wants credit and compensation for the work.[38] However, Garcia believes that he personally owns the copyright for the photo, and has said, &#8220;If you put all the legal stuff away, I’m so proud of the photograph and that Fairey did what he did artistically with it, and the effect it&#8217;s had.&#8221;[39] Fairey feels his use of it falls within the legal definition of fair use.[40] Lawyers for both sides were discussing an amicable agreement.[41] Fairey, however, ultimately filed a federal lawsuit against the Associated Press, seeking a declaratory judgment that his use of the AP photograph was protected by the fair use doctrine and so did not infringe their copyright.&#8221;</p>
<p>    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey#Legal_issues_with_appropriation_and_fair_use" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey#Legal_issues_with_appropriation_and_fair_use</a></p>
<p>    My GOD but you&#8217;re stupid, Sam.  We&#8217;re not just talking Sonny Bono &#8220;Copyright is forever minus a day&#8221; stupidity.  We&#8217;re not even talking &#8220;Valenti&#8217;s Boston Strangler speech&#8221; stupidity.  We&#8217;re talking dumb-as-a-bag-of-wet-dogshit levels of stupid.</p>
<p>   Sorry if I offended you because I &#8220;cut and pasted&#8221; something.  (Gee, and here all this time I thought I was simply providing off-site references for the stuff I mentioned.)  Wow, it&#8217;s so difficult being a &#8220;backwoods amateur&#8221;, how can you EVER expect me to do better?</p>
<p>   I mean, Sam, trust me: my fondest wish in the whole wide world is to get to be &#8220;a real contender&#8221; like you, someday.</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-968967</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahah

I am starting to like your angle of thinking Henry, all kidding aside. You have a point, these CEOs are actually running their respective corporations into the ground, kudos to them. It looks like Brainwol is doing more for the &#039;pirates&#039; of the world than any of us could alone. a one-man-wrecking-crew !

thanks Mitch &#039;Orren Boyle&#039; Brainwol., kinda has a ring to it.

stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahah</p>
<p>I am starting to like your angle of thinking Henry, all kidding aside. You have a point, these CEOs are actually running their respective corporations into the ground, kudos to them. It looks like Brainwol is doing more for the &#8216;pirates&#8217; of the world than any of us could alone. a one-man-wrecking-crew !</p>
<p>thanks Mitch &#8216;Orren Boyle&#8217; Brainwol., kinda has a ring to it.</p>
<p>stw</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-968955</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2008/091808-wall-street-fat-cats.html?ts#slide1

   ALL HAIL THE GLORIOUS CAPITALIST OVERMEN!
   Ayn Rand WAS right -- looking at the tottering wreckage of the global economy, they haven&#039;t exactly &quot;stopped the motor of the world&quot;, but they&#039;ve done an admirable job of &quot;stripping the gears.&quot;

   Yeah, baby -- corporate capitalism rawks!</description>
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<p>   ALL HAIL THE GLORIOUS CAPITALIST OVERMEN!<br />
   Ayn Rand WAS right &#8212; looking at the tottering wreckage of the global economy, they haven&#8217;t exactly &#8220;stopped the motor of the world&#8221;, but they&#8217;ve done an admirable job of &#8220;stripping the gears.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Yeah, baby &#8212; corporate capitalism rawks!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-968954</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Sam, how&#039;s it going?

    Couple of observations:
    1. Bainwol gets (contextually) peanuts:  Agreed, especially when CEO&#039;s of failing companies fairly-routinely end up with multi-million dollar bonuses, I figure Bainwol deserves significantly more pay for his downright admirable job running the company into the ground.
    In fact, I have a suggestion:
    Somebody needs to put together a charitable foundation whose sole purpose will be to &quot;out-bid&quot; the RIAA, MPAA, IFPI, and all other such corporate vermin-pits, by giving awards, recognition, and bonuses of our own to corporate weasels who do best at running these companies into the ground.  (It worked well for banking and the auto industry!) 

    Let&#039;s show &#039;em that p2p advocates DO have a heart!  Hell, we can even name the award after a character from &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot;: &quot;the Orren Boyle award for improving the world-at-large by destroying corporate megaliths!&quot;
    (Presumably, as an arch-advocate for our glorious Capitalist Utopia, you&#039;ve read Ayn Rand, right &quot;Sam&quot;?)

    (I kid! I kid!)

    Peace out, Y&#039;all. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Sam, how&#8217;s it going?</p>
<p>    Couple of observations:<br />
    1. Bainwol gets (contextually) peanuts:  Agreed, especially when CEO&#8217;s of failing companies fairly-routinely end up with multi-million dollar bonuses, I figure Bainwol deserves significantly more pay for his downright admirable job running the company into the ground.<br />
    In fact, I have a suggestion:<br />
    Somebody needs to put together a charitable foundation whose sole purpose will be to &#8220;out-bid&#8221; the RIAA, MPAA, IFPI, and all other such corporate vermin-pits, by giving awards, recognition, and bonuses of our own to corporate weasels who do best at running these companies into the ground.  (It worked well for banking and the auto industry!) </p>
<p>    Let&#8217;s show &#8216;em that p2p advocates DO have a heart!  Hell, we can even name the award after a character from &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221;: &#8220;the Orren Boyle award for improving the world-at-large by destroying corporate megaliths!&#8221;<br />
    (Presumably, as an arch-advocate for our glorious Capitalist Utopia, you&#8217;ve read Ayn Rand, right &#8220;Sam&#8221;?)</p>
<p>    (I kid! I kid!)</p>
<p>    Peace out, Y&#8217;all. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-968946</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bainwol gets paid (contexual) peanuts. Many would suggest that’s all he deserves.&quot;

Many more would also contextually suggest that he simply FOAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bainwol gets paid (contexual) peanuts. Many would suggest that’s all he deserves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many more would also contextually suggest that he simply FOAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam I Am</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-968931</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam I Am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some context, no IP rant today.
A decent two-bedroom with a tiny bath and 7 foot galley kitchen, a small terrace and a modest view can easily rent for $100,000 a year in this town. A parking space in the basement of a very average apartment building can cost the same $100,000 to purchase and still require another $1000 a month in maintenance. A 27 year old middlemanagement MBA with four of five years on Wall Street get&#039;s a million five these days or he leaves for another firm. A lot of people want to live here and the pressures drive prices up.

 &quot;Princely&quot; is hardly accurate. Bainwols salary is pocketchange in a world where 30, 50, 200 million dollar paydays are day-to-day common. Hell, four years at NYU will set you back $250 now, and Bainwol loses probably close to half of his mill five to Fed, State Local and Social Security. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s right or wrong. I&#039;m just saying it is. Context also counts if comprehension is to have value. For his degree of responsibility and public profile, Bainwol gets paid (contexual) peanuts. Many would suggest that&#039;s all he deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some context, no IP rant today.<br />
A decent two-bedroom with a tiny bath and 7 foot galley kitchen, a small terrace and a modest view can easily rent for $100,000 a year in this town. A parking space in the basement of a very average apartment building can cost the same $100,000 to purchase and still require another $1000 a month in maintenance. A 27 year old middlemanagement MBA with four of five years on Wall Street get&#8217;s a million five these days or he leaves for another firm. A lot of people want to live here and the pressures drive prices up.</p>
<p> &#8220;Princely&#8221; is hardly accurate. Bainwols salary is pocketchange in a world where 30, 50, 200 million dollar paydays are day-to-day common. Hell, four years at NYU will set you back $250 now, and Bainwol loses probably close to half of his mill five to Fed, State Local and Social Security. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s right or wrong. I&#8217;m just saying it is. Context also counts if comprehension is to have value. For his degree of responsibility and public profile, Bainwol gets paid (contexual) peanuts. Many would suggest that&#8217;s all he deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-968918</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some artistes have once said: &quot;You can buy a computer, you can buy my CD.&quot;

Paraphrasing that: &quot;You can buy two cars, you can buy one car.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some artistes have once said: &#8220;You can buy a computer, you can buy my CD.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paraphrasing that: &#8220;You can buy two cars, you can buy one car.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: www.eZee.se</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18694/comment-page-1#comment-968902</link>
		<dc:creator>www.eZee.se</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;His 2008 salary was a paltry “$1,280,000 plus another $32,800 in other benefits and allowances,”&lt;/i&gt;

Poor guy! How can one survive on that paltry amount..., 
people, stop pirating, you are jeopardizing this poor mans job.

/sarcasm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>His 2008 salary was a paltry “$1,280,000 plus another $32,800 in other benefits and allowances,”</i></p>
<p>Poor guy! How can one survive on that paltry amount&#8230;,<br />
people, stop pirating, you are jeopardizing this poor mans job.</p>
<p>/sarcasm</p>
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