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		<title>By: slipinz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18850/comment-page-1#comment-970566</link>
		<dc:creator>slipinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the headlines on cnn and fox news,obama feels in the best intrest of the tax payers dollars that the riaa needs your tax money to help send you to jail (i love the usa ) nothing like the rich getting rich&#039;r. this is one of the reasons we the people need to take a stand and fight for a band on lobbying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the headlines on cnn and fox news,obama feels in the best intrest of the tax payers dollars that the riaa needs your tax money to help send you to jail (i love the usa ) nothing like the rich getting rich&#8217;r. this is one of the reasons we the people need to take a stand and fight for a band on lobbying</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Venegas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18850/comment-page-1#comment-970220</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Venegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The damages award system is far worst than it looks when we only consider the stupidity of statutory damages as applied to essentially Innocent and non commercial copying or sharing of song files.

I can only illustrate my point using a case I was involved. I have described the case before but it is worth explaining if it may help accused kids and others who have innocently shared or copied music because they like music and because copyright laws are beyond their (or anyone else, including lawyers and judges) grasp as I have been saying and repeating to deaf ears for a long time. On 2001 we filed a market damage lawsuit in a US federal court against a music publisher that destroyed the market of over 500 songs we owned as copyright holders, by claiming ownership of the over 500 songs. During the lawsuit this fact was not denied by anyone, it was rather obvious. We only received a single &quot;copyright infringement&quot; award of $16,363.47 along with a lawyer bill of $76,932. Our lawyer filed the legal cost claim too late (said the judge as if he had no responsibility in the late filing of an inexperienced lawyer) so all we ended with was a huge loss of about $60,000. The filed lawsuit did not claim any copyright infringement at all, just market damage, but the judge apparently did not read the lawsuit and transformed it into a single song copyright infringement one in a 2004 trial. As a result my family has had to file a new lawsuit (in 2007) the thieving publisher in the local courts.

The point is, federal court judges are insane (if my case is an examples) when it comes to awarding damages, thus judges should not be given statutory atomic bomb of $150,000 to compensate a copyright holder for the (alleged) loss of 99 cents in a sale that may have been at best, improbable.

We have a saying, &quot;may God catch them confessed&quot;. Them are the lawmakers and the judges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The damages award system is far worst than it looks when we only consider the stupidity of statutory damages as applied to essentially Innocent and non commercial copying or sharing of song files.</p>
<p>I can only illustrate my point using a case I was involved. I have described the case before but it is worth explaining if it may help accused kids and others who have innocently shared or copied music because they like music and because copyright laws are beyond their (or anyone else, including lawyers and judges) grasp as I have been saying and repeating to deaf ears for a long time. On 2001 we filed a market damage lawsuit in a US federal court against a music publisher that destroyed the market of over 500 songs we owned as copyright holders, by claiming ownership of the over 500 songs. During the lawsuit this fact was not denied by anyone, it was rather obvious. We only received a single &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221; award of $16,363.47 along with a lawyer bill of $76,932. Our lawyer filed the legal cost claim too late (said the judge as if he had no responsibility in the late filing of an inexperienced lawyer) so all we ended with was a huge loss of about $60,000. The filed lawsuit did not claim any copyright infringement at all, just market damage, but the judge apparently did not read the lawsuit and transformed it into a single song copyright infringement one in a 2004 trial. As a result my family has had to file a new lawsuit (in 2007) the thieving publisher in the local courts.</p>
<p>The point is, federal court judges are insane (if my case is an examples) when it comes to awarding damages, thus judges should not be given statutory atomic bomb of $150,000 to compensate a copyright holder for the (alleged) loss of 99 cents in a sale that may have been at best, improbable.</p>
<p>We have a saying, &#8220;may God catch them confessed&#8221;. Them are the lawmakers and the judges.</p>
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		<title>By: Tera Hillack</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18850/comment-page-1#comment-970201</link>
		<dc:creator>Tera Hillack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The line between news and entertainment has officially been blurred beyond all recognition. Its a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president_obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;soft tyranny&lt;/a&gt;. How badly accuracy will suffer remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The line between news and entertainment has officially been blurred beyond all recognition. Its a <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president_obama/" rel="nofollow">soft tyranny</a>. How badly accuracy will suffer remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe th' Plumber</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18850/comment-page-1#comment-970175</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe th' Plumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Punitive damages levied against a private citizen and awarded to a large commercial group or corporation are a total inversion/perversion of the rationale behind applying punitive damages in court decisions against a corporation. Corporate power, and responsibility to society (NOT its stockholders and executives) is proportional to its size, with those punitive damages way and above the actual damages being intended to enforce the position that this country will not stand for big-business-bullying and disdain for the rights and well-being of the individual citizen, or the &quot;little man&quot;, as each of us is regarded by many big organizations. The amount of money that an average citizen can afford to spend to sustain a legal battle with a corporation by no means compares with what their adversary can bring to bear on their own behalf, and in applying statutory damages of such magnitude, it is intended to harshly remind Big Business to &quot;be nice&quot; (as I used to admonish my chow-chow when he became defiant).

The whole stance taken by the &quot;**AAs&quot; Michael refers to has all the hallmarks of terrorism: authoritarian private groups, with no legal authority to act outside the court system, harass and persecute individuals, instilling fear by threatening &quot;when we find you, we&#039;ll break you, because you&#039;re piratical criminals who are stealing what is ours! You won&#039;t know how or when, but we&#039;ll be comin&#039; to getcha!&quot;. This arrogating of pseudo-legal authority to themselves, and trying to suck dry both the artists and the public, as oppressive middle-men, is the tactic of &quot;La Cosa Nostra&quot;: as the Media Mafioso, they have interposed themselves between the producer and buyer as &quot;distributors&quot; selling their brand of &quot;protection&quot; - but whose limited usefulness to society is swiftly coming to an end in today&#039;s world of digitally-encoded media and the Web. (See my comments at http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/02/piratebaywednes.html?cid=150526357#comment-150526357 to get an expanded slant on this...)  

This is nothing but &quot;might makes right&quot; aggressiveness, cloaked in self-righteous rhetoric and un-scientific fake statistics designed to support the sophistry that claims &quot;file sharing is the same as material thievery&quot;, &quot;p2p is single-handedly responsible for declining CD and DVD revenues for media corporations&quot; and &quot;each file shared is a lost sale...period&quot;. Here is a link http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/19/1440254 to a 146 p. Dutch report pointing to the contrary notion of economic benefit arising from p2 activity. This story http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-leads-to-less-crap-says-bittorrent-co-founder-081109/ speaks for itself ;D. 

The way to victory for Americans (and the world at large, through our international influence) is to take the Lilliputian approach - refute the hogwash every way possible, tie the **AAs up in defending the underlying premises of their opposition to file-sharing, and side-step the questions of &quot;legality&quot; - copyright law has been distorted beyond recognition over the decades into something that stifles creativity and makes middlemen rich, instead of fostering creativity and feeding innovation by the producers of copyrighted materials. Laws can be changed, but true righteousness derives from spiritual principles that human law, at its most just, can only strive to mirror. 

It&#039;s time to start inundating your representatives and senators with correspondence that states your position on this matter. Make the American democracy work on behalf of society! Let freedom ring!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punitive damages levied against a private citizen and awarded to a large commercial group or corporation are a total inversion/perversion of the rationale behind applying punitive damages in court decisions against a corporation. Corporate power, and responsibility to society (NOT its stockholders and executives) is proportional to its size, with those punitive damages way and above the actual damages being intended to enforce the position that this country will not stand for big-business-bullying and disdain for the rights and well-being of the individual citizen, or the &#8220;little man&#8221;, as each of us is regarded by many big organizations. The amount of money that an average citizen can afford to spend to sustain a legal battle with a corporation by no means compares with what their adversary can bring to bear on their own behalf, and in applying statutory damages of such magnitude, it is intended to harshly remind Big Business to &#8220;be nice&#8221; (as I used to admonish my chow-chow when he became defiant).</p>
<p>The whole stance taken by the &#8220;**AAs&#8221; Michael refers to has all the hallmarks of terrorism: authoritarian private groups, with no legal authority to act outside the court system, harass and persecute individuals, instilling fear by threatening &#8220;when we find you, we&#8217;ll break you, because you&#8217;re piratical criminals who are stealing what is ours! You won&#8217;t know how or when, but we&#8217;ll be comin&#8217; to getcha!&#8221;. This arrogating of pseudo-legal authority to themselves, and trying to suck dry both the artists and the public, as oppressive middle-men, is the tactic of &#8220;La Cosa Nostra&#8221;: as the Media Mafioso, they have interposed themselves between the producer and buyer as &#8220;distributors&#8221; selling their brand of &#8220;protection&#8221; &#8211; but whose limited usefulness to society is swiftly coming to an end in today&#8217;s world of digitally-encoded media and the Web. (See my comments at <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/02/piratebaywednes.html?cid=150526357#comment-150526357" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/02/piratebaywednes.html?cid=150526357#comment-150526357</a> to get an expanded slant on this&#8230;)  </p>
<p>This is nothing but &#8220;might makes right&#8221; aggressiveness, cloaked in self-righteous rhetoric and un-scientific fake statistics designed to support the sophistry that claims &#8220;file sharing is the same as material thievery&#8221;, &#8220;p2p is single-handedly responsible for declining CD and DVD revenues for media corporations&#8221; and &#8220;each file shared is a lost sale&#8230;period&#8221;. Here is a link <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/19/1440254" rel="nofollow">http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/19/1440254</a> to a 146 p. Dutch report pointing to the contrary notion of economic benefit arising from p2 activity. This story <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-leads-to-less-crap-says-bittorrent-co-founder-081109/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-leads-to-less-crap-says-bittorrent-co-founder-081109/</a> speaks for itself ;D. </p>
<p>The way to victory for Americans (and the world at large, through our international influence) is to take the Lilliputian approach &#8211; refute the hogwash every way possible, tie the **AAs up in defending the underlying premises of their opposition to file-sharing, and side-step the questions of &#8220;legality&#8221; &#8211; copyright law has been distorted beyond recognition over the decades into something that stifles creativity and makes middlemen rich, instead of fostering creativity and feeding innovation by the producers of copyrighted materials. Laws can be changed, but true righteousness derives from spiritual principles that human law, at its most just, can only strive to mirror. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to start inundating your representatives and senators with correspondence that states your position on this matter. Make the American democracy work on behalf of society! Let freedom ring!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18850/comment-page-1#comment-970160</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama = Democrat Bush</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18850/comment-page-1#comment-970149</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does this surprise anyone? I called it when the story was first reported that Biden was picked for a running mate. I got flamed and told that it would never happen.  The **AA&#039;s bought the election and now run the entire government of the USA through their puppet Obama.  Now the economy is in the tank just like the **AA&#039;s are in the tank. Because innovation and progressive ideas are anathema to to any of the parasitical b****ards running the joint. This is just one opinion so cannot be considered in error however...........

LET THE FLAMES BEGIN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does this surprise anyone? I called it when the story was first reported that Biden was picked for a running mate. I got flamed and told that it would never happen.  The **AA&#8217;s bought the election and now run the entire government of the USA through their puppet Obama.  Now the economy is in the tank just like the **AA&#8217;s are in the tank. Because innovation and progressive ideas are anathema to to any of the parasitical b****ards running the joint. This is just one opinion so cannot be considered in error however&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>LET THE FLAMES BEGIN!</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/18850/comment-page-1#comment-970134</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you listened to the press while he was running you would have thought Obama was the 2nd coming of Christ. Well, it you&#039;re into p2p and not a fan of the RIAA Jesus just shit on you. And never fear about the RIAA going bankrupt and out of business, were that to happen Obama and the U.S. congress would probably bail them out too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you listened to the press while he was running you would have thought Obama was the 2nd coming of Christ. Well, it you&#8217;re into p2p and not a fan of the RIAA Jesus just shit on you. And never fear about the RIAA going bankrupt and out of business, were that to happen Obama and the U.S. congress would probably bail them out too.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Obama: Everybody is still watching you. Please act accordingly. Thank you,

The Internet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Obama: Everybody is still watching you. Please act accordingly. Thank you,</p>
<p>The Internet</p>
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