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	<title>Comments on: Is mp3 where it was?</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1904/comment-page-1#comment-3803</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2004 02:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Thompson writes a good rant and I agree with some of his positions. But Bill, .mp3 is here to stay because all the other formats have their own drawbacks and it would take a revolution to get the world to change horses this late in the day.

Frankly, any adult over the age of 30 has lost the ability to hear music content much above 10Khz and that includes harmonics. I challenge anyone to listen, back-to-back (on a top line system), to an original CD track and the same track (without knowing which is which), ripped to 128kbps (by a quality utility such as MusicMatch) and to then be able to state, categorically and with sound technical reasoning, which is the original and which is the .mp3.

I have run this test on friends and family, including my son when he was 10, using high quality source material from Sheffield Labs (Creme de la Creme, Drum Sessions, Burn-in CD) and no one has ever been able to tell me which version they were listening to.

You know what they say - &quot;If it works, don&#039;t fix it&quot;. MP3 works.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Thompson writes a good rant and I agree with some of his positions. But Bill, .mp3 is here to stay because all the other formats have their own drawbacks and it would take a revolution to get the world to change horses this late in the day.</p>
<p>Frankly, any adult over the age of 30 has lost the ability to hear music content much above 10Khz and that includes harmonics. I challenge anyone to listen, back-to-back (on a top line system), to an original CD track and the same track (without knowing which is which), ripped to 128kbps (by a quality utility such as MusicMatch) and to then be able to state, categorically and with sound technical reasoning, which is the original and which is the .mp3.</p>
<p>I have run this test on friends and family, including my son when he was 10, using high quality source material from Sheffield Labs (Creme de la Creme, Drum Sessions, Burn-in CD) and no one has ever been able to tell me which version they were listening to.</p>
<p>You know what they say &#8211; &#8220;If it works, don&#8217;t fix it&#8221;. MP3 works.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:rzyss@rogers.com">rzyss@rogers.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about ogg vorbis?  though i haven&#039;t had much as much exposure as i would need to pass judgement, it seems like a great format . . . the great sound and low file sizes of AAC without the DRM and proprietary format issues.  companies like i-river are embracing this format, though more mainstream software encoders need to jump on the train to really get it moving.  open source seems like the best way to go.  this guy&#039;s right, though, the format war needs to conclude sometime soon, before too many people invest in soon-to-be obsolete hardware.

also, the public needs to become more educated on the subject before buying an ipod just because its &quot;cute.&quot;  true, with some people this type of purchase is unstoppable, but only with masses of informed purchases will we be able to demand the features and file types that we deserve.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about ogg vorbis?  though i haven&#8217;t had much as much exposure as i would need to pass judgement, it seems like a great format . . . the great sound and low file sizes of AAC without the DRM and proprietary format issues.  companies like i-river are embracing this format, though more mainstream software encoders need to jump on the train to really get it moving.  open source seems like the best way to go.  this guy&#8217;s right, though, the format war needs to conclude sometime soon, before too many people invest in soon-to-be obsolete hardware.</p>
<p>also, the public needs to become more educated on the subject before buying an ipod just because its &#8220;cute.&#8221;  true, with some people this type of purchase is unstoppable, but only with masses of informed purchases will we be able to demand the features and file types that we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1904/comment-page-1#comment-3384</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>analog_alkali = iain elder

damn i&#039;m tired</description>
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<p>damn i&#8217;m tired</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1904/comment-page-1#comment-3383</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>previous post by analog_alkali

i thought i had signed in, sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1904/comment-page-1#comment-3382</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, yes, aac is far a far superior compression format than mp3, but seriously though, i think mp3s are here to stay for a good while yet. The term has become a generic for all digital compressed music.


It&#039;s like the old Betamax vs VHS story - The Sony Betamax video system was technically superior, but VHS had the best marketing and so won out in the end.

The mp3s situation is similar because although technically mp3s are old-hat, they are probably the most well-known and most widely available form of digitally compressed music.

and anyway, one day we&#039;ll have the bandwidths and storage that will make compression unecessary :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, yes, aac is far a far superior compression format than mp3, but seriously though, i think mp3s are here to stay for a good while yet. The term has become a generic for all digital compressed music.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the old Betamax vs VHS story &#8211; The Sony Betamax video system was technically superior, but VHS had the best marketing and so won out in the end.</p>
<p>The mp3s situation is similar because although technically mp3s are old-hat, they are probably the most well-known and most widely available form of digitally compressed music.</p>
<p>and anyway, one day we&#8217;ll have the bandwidths and storage that will make compression unecessary <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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