Comments on: p2pnet and privacy http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971056 Reader's Write Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:45:30 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971056 "To me, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, MySpace, et al, represent the worst of commercial enterprise on the Net." These days many corporations behave like parasites working and cheating and slashing their way through every thing, the societies, the citizen, the economy the environment the fauna, the flora. . . Everything! They conduct a scorched earth policy in veneration of their god: Money. This has to stop and to stop now in order to avoid the next social catastrophe that will destroy the corporations themselves and their executives. This is not the capitalism at fault. This is the people. With enough bad people you get shit no matter the system. It is time to raise again the moral and ethical standard, teach people to care about each over again, refuse to let others devise them. Otherwise all will collapse. On planet earth this is everyone or no one. The survival of the fittest does not work with human since the least "fitted" for whatever this might mean can get a gun and shoot the rest of us. In nature there is no such thing as the survival of the fittest. The survival of the fittest is a very poor understanding of evolution. In real life there is no unfitted because the unfitted does not exist and survival is a matter of luck. “To me, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, MySpace, et al, represent the worst of commercial enterprise on the Net.”

These days many corporations behave like parasites working and cheating and slashing their way through every thing, the societies, the citizen, the economy the environment the fauna, the flora. . . Everything!

They conduct a scorched earth policy in veneration of their god: Money. This has to stop and to stop now in order to avoid the next social catastrophe that will destroy the corporations themselves and their executives.

This is not the capitalism at fault. This is the people. With enough bad people you get shit no matter the system.

It is time to raise again the moral and ethical standard, teach people to care about each over again, refuse to let others devise them. Otherwise all will collapse. On planet earth this is everyone or no one.

The survival of the fittest does not work with human since the least “fitted” for whatever this might mean can get a gun and shoot the rest of us.

In nature there is no such thing as the survival of the fittest. The survival of the fittest is a very poor understanding of evolution. In real life there is no unfitted because the unfitted does not exist and survival is a matter of luck.

]]> By: Tom Koltai http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971039 Tom Koltai Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:52:33 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971039 Actually interestingly enough you have all missed the point - Google is doing more than Deep Packet Inspection - they are storing your needs and desires in a database. They know what you shop for. They know how often. They know if you look at naughty bits - or if you cheat on your homework. They KNOW. And on the other side of the coin - there is not one siongle search that you can do on pirate bay that isnt replicated on Google. Try it. See if you can search for a torrent on Pirate that you then cant find on Google. Interesting isnt it. Pirate Bay are being prosecuted because ythey filter out the crap. Google are left alone because they hide the data with Crap. ust my two cents worth....... Actually interestingly enough you have all missed the point – Google is doing more than Deep Packet Inspection – they are storing your needs and desires in a database. They know what you shop for. They know how often. They know if you look at naughty bits – or if you cheat on your homework. They KNOW.
And on the other side of the coin – there is not one siongle search that you can do on pirate bay that isnt replicated on Google. Try it. See if you can search for a torrent on Pirate that you then cant find on Google.
Interesting isnt it. Pirate Bay are being prosecuted because ythey filter out the crap. Google are left alone because they hide the data with Crap.
ust my two cents worth…….

]]> By: Gubatron http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971037 Gubatron Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:27:14 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971037 Here's one of my rants against Google "Don't Look Evil" http://www.gubatron.com/blog/2009/03/18/how-to-get-free-press-for-your-billion-dollar-corp-using-and-branding-kids-all-over-the-country/ Here’s one of my rants against Google “Don’t Look Evil”

http://www.gubatron.com/blog/2009/03/18/how-to-get-free-press-for-your-billion-dollar-corp-using-and-branding-kids-all-over-the-country/

]]> By: hackers/pirates of the world unite http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971026 hackers/pirates of the world unite Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:40:09 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971026 remember microcrap is partnered with bellcrap which is microcrap is signed agreements with riaacrap/mpaacrap lots a crap is true. here's to bigger terds in the future. NOT remember microcrap is partnered with bellcrap which is microcrap is signed agreements with riaacrap/mpaacrap

lots a crap is true.
here’s to bigger terds in the future.
NOT

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971025 Reader's Write Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:16:16 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971025 catflap: "btw, i think effing twitter is one of the most effing stupidest things ever. who effing cares what the eff i’m effing doing now? i have better effing things to do that to effing post what the eff i’m effing doing. it’s no one’s effing business." are you "effing"? OMG, you are "effing" aren't you. Don't be coy with me bitch, updade your twitter so I can have a lookse ;) ChrIS catflap:
“btw, i think effing twitter is one of the most effing stupidest things ever. who effing cares what the eff i’m effing doing now? i have better effing things to do that to effing post what the eff i’m effing doing. it’s no one’s effing business.”

are you “effing”? OMG, you are “effing” aren’t you. Don’t be coy with me bitch, updade your twitter so I can have a lookse ;)

ChrIS

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971024 Reader's Write Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:02:20 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971024 @ leaked, yeah but there is noting worthwhile in it. @ leaked,
yeah but there is noting worthwhile in it.

]]> By: Leaked on Wikileaks http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971023 Leaked on Wikileaks Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:55:54 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971023 Breaking News: C R T C website on I S P throttling practices was leaked on Wikileaks, all pages and directories, as well as access logs! Breaking News: C R T C website on I S P throttling practices was leaked on Wikileaks, all pages and directories, as well as access logs!

]]> By: Leaked on Wikileaks http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971022 Leaked on Wikileaks Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:52:40 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971022 CRTC Canadian ISP Practices archive (Leaked on Wikileaks) Context Canada Government (bureaucracy) Canadian Radio-Telecommunications Commission Primary language English File size in bytes 23220150 File type information Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract Cryptographic identity SHA256 61f623b184fca9d55eda4a702b6ec502f8244288c2e434bb178230ef446fd677 Description (as provided by our source) 1. Has this file been released before anywhere on or off line? site was missing an index page for a short while allowing full directory listing and downloading. Quickly mirrored all content. 2. Why is this file important? Has access logs from the time the site was altered, including config files production logs, development logs. 3. What is the likely audience? Highly technical Canadians. 4. What are some approaches to verification (who can journalists call for comment etc)? CRTC 5. Why was it leaked? Because, getting the behind the look scene at the applications that run the feed back system for a government agency is always good. 6. Is there some event that means the document needs to published ugently? no CRTC Canadian ISP Practices archive (Leaked on Wikileaks)

Context

Canada
Government (bureaucracy)
Canadian Radio-Telecommunications Commission

Primary language
English

File size in bytes
23220150

File type information
Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract

Cryptographic identity
SHA256 61f623b184fca9d55eda4a702b6ec502f8244288c2e434bb178230ef446fd677

Description (as provided by our source)

1. Has this file been released before anywhere on or off line?

site was missing an index page for a short while allowing full directory listing and downloading. Quickly mirrored all content.

2. Why is this file important?

Has access logs from the time the site was altered, including config files production logs, development logs.

3. What is the likely audience?

Highly technical Canadians.

4. What are some approaches to verification (who can journalists call for comment etc)?

CRTC

5. Why was it leaked?

Because, getting the behind the look scene at the applications that run the feed back system for a government agency is always good.

6. Is there some event that means the document needs to published ugently?

no

]]> By: Leaked on Wikileaks http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971021 Leaked on Wikileaks Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:51:41 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971021 CRTC Canadian ISP Practices archive (Leaked on Wikileaks) https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/CRTC_Canadian_ISP_Practices_archive%2C_Mar_2009 CRTC Canadian ISP Practices archive (Leaked on Wikileaks)

https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/CRTC_Canadian_ISP_Practices_archive%2C_Mar_2009

]]> By: Leaked on Wikileaks http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971020 Leaked on Wikileaks Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:51:11 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971020 CRTC Canadian ISP Practices archive (Leaked on Wikileaks) https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/CRTC_Canadian_ISP_Practices_archive%2C_Mar_2009 Context Canada Government (bureaucracy) Canadian Radio-Telecommunications Commission Primary language English File size in bytes 23220150 File type information Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract Cryptographic identity SHA256 61f623b184fca9d55eda4a702b6ec502f8244288c2e434bb178230ef446fd677 Description (as provided by our source) 1. Has this file been released before anywhere on or off line? site was missing an index page for a short while allowing full directory listing and downloading. Quickly mirrored all content. 2. Why is this file important? Has access logs from the time the site was altered, including config files production logs, development logs. 3. What is the likely audience? Highly technical Canadians. 4. What are some approaches to verification (who can journalists call for comment etc)? http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ 5. Why was it leaked? Because, getting the behind the look scene at the applications that run the feed back system for a government agency is always good. 6. Is there some event that means the document needs to published ugently? no CRTC Canadian ISP Practices archive (Leaked on Wikileaks)

https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/CRTC_Canadian_ISP_Practices_archive%2C_Mar_2009

Context

Canada
Government (bureaucracy)
Canadian Radio-Telecommunications Commission

Primary language
English

File size in bytes
23220150

File type information
Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract

Cryptographic identity
SHA256 61f623b184fca9d55eda4a702b6ec502f8244288c2e434bb178230ef446fd677

Description (as provided by our source)

1. Has this file been released before anywhere on or off line?

site was missing an index page for a short while allowing full directory listing and downloading. Quickly mirrored all content.

2. Why is this file important?

Has access logs from the time the site was altered, including config files production logs, development logs.

3. What is the likely audience?

Highly technical Canadians.

4. What are some approaches to verification (who can journalists call for comment etc)?

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/

5. Why was it leaked?

Because, getting the behind the look scene at the applications that run the feed back system for a government agency is always good.

6. Is there some event that means the document needs to published ugently?

no

]]> By: catflap http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971019 catflap Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:28:30 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971019 jon, are effing twitter, digg, stumbleupon, delicious, included in your hate list of "et al"? i think they - and all other hyped and over-hyped so-called "social networks" - should be included and excluded from haning anything to do with p2pnet. but wait a sec...all of those, including, google, yahoo, facebook, myspace, microsoft live favorites and a host of others are listed in a widget (or whatever it's called) at the end of every article, to be used to "share" and "discuss" things. btw, i think effing twitter is one of the most effing stupidest things ever. who effing cares what the eff i'm effing doing now? i have better effing things to do that to effing post what the eff i'm effing doing. it's no one's effing business. jon, you have twitter page. do you also have a myspace page and a facebook page? what's that all about? ;) jon, i've never taken you for a hypocrite, but should i be having second thoughts? :P btw, i block those widget things anyway, and had to unblock it now just to check what's listed. jon, are effing twitter, digg, stumbleupon, delicious, included in your hate list of “et al”? i think they – and all other hyped and over-hyped so-called “social networks” – should be included and excluded from haning anything to do with p2pnet.

but wait a sec…all of those, including, google, yahoo, facebook, myspace, microsoft live favorites and a host of others are listed in a widget (or whatever it’s called) at the end of every article, to be used to “share” and “discuss” things.

btw, i think effing twitter is one of the most effing stupidest things ever. who effing cares what the eff i’m effing doing now? i have better effing things to do that to effing post what the eff i’m effing doing. it’s no one’s effing business.

jon, you have twitter page. do you also have a myspace page and a facebook page?

what’s that all about? ;) jon, i’ve never taken you for a hypocrite, but should i be having second thoughts? :P

btw, i block those widget things anyway, and had to unblock it now just to check what’s listed.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971017 Reader's Write Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:58:01 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971017 @the Readers write above jon's posting. You said: ------------------------------------------- "However, unlike the vast majority of websites, P2PNet has been set up to refuse entry into the site unless all these unique settings are reported by the user’s browser. A P2PNet visitor with malfunctioning browser or firewall that does not reveal these “fingerprints” will get redirected to a blank page. It should be noted that a lot of sites do indeed log this info, which can be used to identify individual computers within a network which access the site from a common IP address. Why does P2PNet need to know all these unique identifiers of site visitors?" ------------------------------------------- Well I just tested this (blocked rand what you claim is false. However, I get the blank page with Google. Not with p2pnet.net So either put your proof in writing so others can re-create what you are seeing or... well, you know. REMOTE_ADDR: either my own or a proxy HOST: either my own or per proxy REMOTE_PORT: don't think I can spoof this. Its as is or per proxy HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: as is and per proxy USER AGENT DATA: Spoofed, as is, or per proxy Your operating system: as is or per proxy BROWSER: Spoofed, as is, or per proxy (note, this also is as per USER AGENT DATA) JavaScript: Blocked, as is, per proxy JAVA: Blocked, as is, per proxy Referrer: Blank Cookies: Blocked or accept Screen Resolution: Block, on, per proxy Flash: Disabled, on, per proxy ActiveX: Couldn't find a way to determine (didn't bother looking). Anyone have a quick test site? I tested each of the variables above per what I wrote above and the site works fine and I can even comment, as I am now. But google won't allow a search at all. Goes blank. So I think you're full of it personally. Or maybe I have a leak, or each of the proxies I tested have a leak or something. I await your reply and what you have tried that causes this "re-direction to a blank page" like google does. Has my interest. @the Readers write above jon’s posting.
You said:
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“However, unlike the vast majority of websites, P2PNet has been set up to refuse entry into the site unless all these unique settings are reported by the user’s browser. A P2PNet visitor with malfunctioning browser or firewall that does not reveal these “fingerprints” will get redirected to a blank page. It should be noted that a lot of sites do indeed log this info, which can be used to identify individual computers within a network which access the site from a common IP address.

Why does P2PNet need to know all these unique identifiers of site visitors?”
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Well I just tested this (blocked rand what you claim is false.

However, I get the blank page with Google. Not with p2pnet.net

So either put your proof in writing so others can re-create what you are seeing or… well, you know.

REMOTE_ADDR: either my own or a proxy
HOST: either my own or per proxy
REMOTE_PORT: don’t think I can spoof this. Its as is or per proxy
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: as is and per proxy

USER AGENT DATA: Spoofed, as is, or per proxy
Your operating system: as is or per proxy
BROWSER: Spoofed, as is, or per proxy (note, this also is as per USER AGENT DATA)
JavaScript: Blocked, as is, per proxy
JAVA: Blocked, as is, per proxy
Referrer: Blank
Cookies: Blocked or accept

Screen Resolution: Block, on, per proxy
Flash: Disabled, on, per proxy

ActiveX: Couldn’t find a way to determine (didn’t bother looking). Anyone have a quick test site?

I tested each of the variables above per what I wrote above and the site works fine and I can even comment, as I am now.

But google won’t allow a search at all. Goes blank.

So I think you’re full of it personally. Or maybe I have a leak, or each of the proxies I tested have a leak or something.

I await your reply and what you have tried that causes this “re-direction to a blank page” like google does.

Has my interest.

]]> By: Jon http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971015 Jon Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:16:58 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971015 @ hate for google That you, Mikey? To me, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, MySpace, et al, represent the worst of commercial enterprise on the Net. Cheewrs! @ hate for google

That you, Mikey?

To me, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, MySpace, et al, represent the worst of commercial enterprise on the Net.

Cheewrs!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971011 Reader's Write Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:24:00 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971011 Most computers log numerous types of histories without the user knowing about it. Microsoft Windows, for instance, is notorious for this, and many people would be shocked to learn the extent that their activities -automatically- get recorded. Microsoft is not alone. Many applications, such as firewalls (this includes Peer Guardian!) will log all connections and store this list. (and even when these files are deleted, traces can remain in swap/pagefiles as well as recoverable "deleted" files on the hard disk.) Unless P2PNet has taken specific and concrete steps to meticulously purge and wipe all traces of user data, it's quite possible that if the authorities ever raided P2PNet's servers, they'd find quite a treasure trove of IP addresses and other evidence of user activity. Besides IP addresses, a web server also collects other unique identifiers from visitors, such as a user's operating system version, screen resolution, browser version, cookies, and other browser info such as Javascript, Java, ActiveX, Flash, etc., etc. However, unlike the vast majority of websites, P2PNet has been set up to refuse entry into the site unless all these unique settings are reported by the user's browser. A P2PNet visitor with malfunctioning browser or firewall that does not reveal these "fingerprints" will get redirected to a blank page. It should be noted that a lot of sites do indeed log this info, which can be used to identify individual computers within a network which access the site from a common IP address. Why does P2PNet need to know all these unique identifiers of site visitors? Most computers log numerous types of histories without the user knowing about it. Microsoft Windows, for instance, is notorious for this, and many people would be shocked to learn the extent that their activities -automatically- get recorded. Microsoft is not alone. Many applications, such as firewalls (this includes Peer Guardian!) will log all connections and store this list. (and even when these files are deleted, traces can remain in swap/pagefiles as well as recoverable “deleted” files on the hard disk.)

Unless P2PNet has taken specific and concrete steps to meticulously purge and wipe all traces of user data, it’s quite possible that if the authorities ever raided P2PNet’s servers, they’d find quite a treasure trove of IP addresses and other evidence of user activity.

Besides IP addresses, a web server also collects other unique identifiers from visitors, such as a user’s operating system version, screen resolution, browser version, cookies, and other browser info such as Javascript, Java, ActiveX, Flash, etc., etc. However, unlike the vast majority of websites, P2PNet has been set up to refuse entry into the site unless all these unique settings are reported by the user’s browser. A P2PNet visitor with malfunctioning browser or firewall that does not reveal these “fingerprints” will get redirected to a blank page. It should be noted that a lot of sites do indeed log this info, which can be used to identify individual computers within a network which access the site from a common IP address.

Why does P2PNet need to know all these unique identifiers of site visitors?

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/19707/comment-page-1#comment-971010 Reader's Write Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:15:20 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=19707#comment-971010 You do seem to have an inordinate amount of hate for google Jon. There are far worse companies out there. You do seem to have an inordinate amount of hate for google Jon. There are far worse companies out there.

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