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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the other moronic laws regarding p2p, I&#039;m sure this will pass - and damage our ability to make new products.... I mean why not, every thing else is already messed up.

Here&#039;s reality though - straight and honest:

p2p users &#039;are&#039; customers too - we may not buy as much as you&#039;d like us to but &#039;MOST&#039; of what we buy we&#039;ve sampled on p2p. We, as a group, were &#039;never&#039; big media buyers.. games, movies, music, whatever - yes, p2p has allowed us to be &#039;much&#039; more specific with what we&#039;re going to buy because we are ruling out the garbage by &#039;trying&#039; it on p2p first.

Yep, there are &#039;many&#039; p2p users whom purchase &#039;nothing&#039; but guess what - they &#039;NEVER&#039; would have anyway and the &#039;losses&#039; have all been sMoKe and MiRrOrs - there have been no &#039;real&#039; losses from p2p with one clear-cut exception - the idiots who burn the media and &#039;sell&#039; it to people at flea markets, whom would have likely otherwise bought the legit copy if a cheaper illegal one was not around - THAT is the area they need to worry about and not p2p itself.

The laws today are coming close to making it illegal to own a vcr or even a cassette recorder - they will soon make it illegal to have audio-input on computers and remove all mic-input&#039;s on home stereo&#039;s. DVD-R and CV-R&#039;s are going to be illegal except for major corporation use.

It&#039;s sad, but America is becoming a harsh dictatorship.... and I&#039;m starting to wonder why I live here.... sad sad sad.



_-Jile-_
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Dream~Masters Network GM
~~~From the Direct Connect P2P~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the other moronic laws regarding p2p, I&#8217;m sure this will pass &#8211; and damage our ability to make new products&#8230;. I mean why not, every thing else is already messed up.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s reality though &#8211; straight and honest:</p>
<p>p2p users &#8216;are&#8217; customers too &#8211; we may not buy as much as you&#8217;d like us to but &#8216;MOST&#8217; of what we buy we&#8217;ve sampled on p2p. We, as a group, were &#8216;never&#8217; big media buyers.. games, movies, music, whatever &#8211; yes, p2p has allowed us to be &#8216;much&#8217; more specific with what we&#8217;re going to buy because we are ruling out the garbage by &#8216;trying&#8217; it on p2p first.</p>
<p>Yep, there are &#8216;many&#8217; p2p users whom purchase &#8216;nothing&#8217; but guess what &#8211; they &#8216;NEVER&#8217; would have anyway and the &#8216;losses&#8217; have all been sMoKe and MiRrOrs &#8211; there have been no &#8216;real&#8217; losses from p2p with one clear-cut exception &#8211; the idiots who burn the media and &#8217;sell&#8217; it to people at flea markets, whom would have likely otherwise bought the legit copy if a cheaper illegal one was not around &#8211; THAT is the area they need to worry about and not p2p itself.</p>
<p>The laws today are coming close to making it illegal to own a vcr or even a cassette recorder &#8211; they will soon make it illegal to have audio-input on computers and remove all mic-input&#8217;s on home stereo&#8217;s. DVD-R and CV-R&#8217;s are going to be illegal except for major corporation use.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad, but America is becoming a harsh dictatorship&#8230;. and I&#8217;m starting to wonder why I live here&#8230;. sad sad sad.</p>
<p>_-Jile-_<br />
+=Contributory-Violations=+ Network Owner<br />
Dream~Masters Network GM<br />
~~~From the Direct Connect P2P~~~</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1973/comment-page-1#comment-3609</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2004 00:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the webcast of the hearings held yesterday are available here http://files.dmusic.com/video/induce.mov - requires quicktime or quicktime alternative. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the webcast of the hearings held yesterday are available here <a href="http://files.dmusic.com/video/induce.mov" rel="nofollow">http://files.dmusic.com/video/induce.mov</a> &#8211; requires quicktime or quicktime alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1973/comment-page-1#comment-3566</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, we can sue vacuum tube manufacturers becuase you can make a memory array out of (many, many) tubes, we can sue the manufacturers of paper and pencil, because you can copy something down. We can sue your parents, because they had a child with a good memory who can remember lots of copyrighted information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, we can sue vacuum tube manufacturers becuase you can make a memory array out of (many, many) tubes, we can sue the manufacturers of paper and pencil, because you can copy something down. We can sue your parents, because they had a child with a good memory who can remember lots of copyrighted information.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1973/comment-page-1#comment-3563</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
Ok Guys, this is my first post, since the revelation that imesh is now going to be used for &#039;legitimate buisness&#039; within the years out, now I have a question.

If imesh is going to become a &#039;legal&#039; P2P, then how can the senate release a bill that outlaws P2P activity as illegal, when imesh will be in buisness with licensed content directly from the record companies?

This situation doesn&#039;t make sense, it&#039;s strangley ironic if that&#039;s the right word. 
Lets look at a diagram:

People share music illegally -&gt; Music industry attack sharers/downloaders. -&gt; that doesnt work so they get senate to help them. -&gt;senate attempt bill that infringes P2P companies -&gt; while the companies are trying to license content on P2P that will be a technology outlawed at years out, thus losing the industry more money. 

I&#039;m only bringin this up as the senate constantly references the betamax case, now in that &#039;the VHS can be used for legitimate and infringing works&#039; hmmmmmm, apparantly so can P2P so by making it illegal, ur effectively destroying a new buisness model, contradicting yourselves, and making yourselves look typically american. (Im English BTW)


Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Guys, this is my first post, since the revelation that imesh is now going to be used for &#8216;legitimate buisness&#8217; within the years out, now I have a question.</p>
<p>If imesh is going to become a &#8216;legal&#8217; P2P, then how can the senate release a bill that outlaws P2P activity as illegal, when imesh will be in buisness with licensed content directly from the record companies?</p>
<p>This situation doesn&#8217;t make sense, it&#8217;s strangley ironic if that&#8217;s the right word.<br />
Lets look at a diagram:</p>
<p>People share music illegally -&gt; Music industry attack sharers/downloaders. -&gt; that doesnt work so they get senate to help them. -&gt;senate attempt bill that infringes P2P companies -&gt; while the companies are trying to license content on P2P that will be a technology outlawed at years out, thus losing the industry more money. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m only bringin this up as the senate constantly references the betamax case, now in that &#8216;the VHS can be used for legitimate and infringing works&#8217; hmmmmmm, apparantly so can P2P so by making it illegal, ur effectively destroying a new buisness model, contradicting yourselves, and making yourselves look typically american. (Im English BTW)</p>
<p>Elliot</p>
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