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	<title>Comments on: Tuning in to squirrels</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2022#comment-5100</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact ultrasonic frequencies are present in human screams. we are unaware of that energy because we are more sensitive to lower frequencies.  Human can indeed hear ultrasound, but generally only by bone or fluid conduction to the ear (lenhardt et al, 1991 Science)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact ultrasonic frequencies are present in human screams. we are unaware of that energy because we are more sensitive to lower frequencies.  Human can indeed hear ultrasound, but generally only by bone or fluid conduction to the ear (lenhardt et al, 1991 Science)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2022#comment-3753</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would probably disagree with the significance of the concept of "ultrasonic" as it relates to animals. Each species has its own individual range of hearing - an audible frequency range that often may be outside of the human range of hearing. The terms "ultrasonic" and "subsonic" apply to the range of human hearing only, so these terms might not be appropriate when referring to other species' interactions. 

From tiny insects to great whales, many animals communicate using ultrasonic frequencies. Elephants use subsonic frequencies for the purpose of locating each other that can be audible (to them) for miles. Maybe if the range of human hearing was not so genetically limited, we would not be using the label "ultrasonic" nearly as much.

The ground squirrels mentioned converse at 50 khz, which is only just barely outside the measured audible range of domestic dogs, for instance - so perhaps some predators in the wild can actually hear the squirrrels, as evolutionary natural selection would probably favor this ability.

Audible range for various animals in hertz:

Humans                             20-      20,000 
  Cats                              100-     32,000 
  Dogs                               40-      46,000 
  Horses                             31-      40,000 
  Elephants                          16-      12,000 
  Cattle                             16-      40,000 
  Bats                            1,000-     150,000 
  Grasshoppers and locusts          100-      50,000 
  Rodents                         1,000-     100,000 
  Whales and dolphins                70-     150,000 
  Seals and sea lions               200-      55,000 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would probably disagree with the significance of the concept of &#8220;ultrasonic&#8221; as it relates to animals. Each species has its own individual range of hearing - an audible frequency range that often may be outside of the human range of hearing. The terms &#8220;ultrasonic&#8221; and &#8220;subsonic&#8221; apply to the range of human hearing only, so these terms might not be appropriate when referring to other species&#8217; interactions. </p>
<p>From tiny insects to great whales, many animals communicate using ultrasonic frequencies. Elephants use subsonic frequencies for the purpose of locating each other that can be audible (to them) for miles. Maybe if the range of human hearing was not so genetically limited, we would not be using the label &#8220;ultrasonic&#8221; nearly as much.</p>
<p>The ground squirrels mentioned converse at 50 khz, which is only just barely outside the measured audible range of domestic dogs, for instance - so perhaps some predators in the wild can actually hear the squirrrels, as evolutionary natural selection would probably favor this ability.</p>
<p>Audible range for various animals in hertz:</p>
<p>Humans                             20-      20,000<br />
  Cats                              100-     32,000<br />
  Dogs                               40-      46,000<br />
  Horses                             31-      40,000<br />
  Elephants                          16-      12,000<br />
  Cattle                             16-      40,000<br />
  Bats                            1,000-     150,000<br />
  Grasshoppers and locusts          100-      50,000<br />
  Rodents                         1,000-     100,000<br />
  Whales and dolphins                70-     150,000<br />
  Seals and sea lions               200-      55,000</p>
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