p2pnet news view Freedom | P2P:-Four or five years ago, I ran quotes at the end of each article, ie, The best way out is always through ~ Robert Frost. Or, Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds ~ Albert Einstein.
But my favourite came from Mahatma Gandhi »»»
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Yesterday, Sweden lost The Pirate Bay case was the p2pnet headline to the no-surprises-here news that “Stockholm district court had an opportunity to demonstrate to the world that Sweden is still the free and progressive country it was once famous for being”.
It may have been the only headline which didn’t present the decision in Sweden as a win for the corporate entertainment industry.
Instead, the story, “confirmed that like America, [Sweden] is little more than another music and movie industry enforcement, sales and marketing division which puts corporate interests before those of its citizens.”
Well, Time Warner, Viacom, Fox, Sony, NBC Universal and Disney, and Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony Music, tried to ignore us. That didn’t work. They mocked us. Didn’t work. Then these ass-hats, as surfer calls them, started suing us. That isn’t working either.
Now we’re at stage four, a la Mahatma Gandhi.
Worldwide effort to thwart file-sharing.
Quite a while back, Slyck interviewed me and one of the questions was: “Tell us how you feel about the online copyright wars and do you see any end in sight?”
Me: The wars are all in the mind of the entertainment industry. P2p is here to stay and without wishing to be corny, the people have spoken, and loudly. When the various corporate interests finally admit they’re operating in the digital 21st century and not the physical 1970s, things will settle down. As Cherry Lane Digital ceo Jim Griffin said … the labels, ‘cling to their pursuit of this notion of control and calling those who do not comply thieves, and in doing so they leave billions on the table that should be divided fairly amongst creators and rights holders.’ The companies won’t be able to leave those billions floating around for ever. Their contracted artists and shareholders won’t let them. So Yes, there’s an end in sight and when it arrives, we’ll have the labels and cartels saying how they’ve been solidly behind p2p since Day One.
Slyck: The Recording Industry of Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) have both coordinated a worldwide effort to thwart file-sharing. The RIAA has maintained this effort for almost two years, while the MPAA has just begun. How would you gauge the success of these efforts, and what effect has it had on the proliferation of P2P and file-sharing?
Me: Success? Absolutely minimal. Effect on proliferation of p2p and file-sharing? Absolutely minimal. A significant number of US and Canadian academic studies, including the recent Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development report, have proved this over and again. And this reality is underscored by statistics from p2p research company Big Champagne. Its data show file sharing continues to rise, and fairly dramatically.
Slyck: What should the MPAA and RIAA do to curb piracy’s prominence?
Me: Given that the MPAA and RIAA are no more than the blunt weapons of the entertainment industry cartels, the first thing they should do is: stop trying to sue their customers into buying. It’ll take a while, but they’ll eventually begin to recover some of the goodwill they’ve squandered. The cartels should then immediately open their entire catalogues to the people they’ve more or less designated as their principal sales fronts, with iTunes and Napster II to the fore. This content should be licensed to distributors (including the current p2p operators) at reasonable prices so people can buy tracks at between 10 and 25 cents per download. The organized criminals – the `pirates’ – depend largely on physical product to ply their illicit trades. They’ll find it a hell of a lot harder to operate when music and movie lovers are buying fairly priced music and movies from adequately stocked download sites. The RIAA and MPAA should also stop spending ridiculous amounts of money publicizing the very thing they’re trying to quell. P2p and the digital media represent tremendous opportunities, not death knells.
Slyck: What would be your ideal solution to balancing the needs of the MPAA/RIAA and that of the average P2P and file-sharing participant (consumer)?
Me: See above, and let’s remember consumers are customers again, and they’re in a spanking new economic territory which has never existed before. They, and not the corporations, have the power of control. It’s called freedom of choice. New technologies always threaten the old, established ones whose owners do everything they can to maintain the status quo. Eventually, though, they cave in, and go with the flow and peace reigns (until it happens all over again ; )
Slyck: Some say the MPAA/RIAA and hard core P2P/file-sharers are so polarized in their positions that it is impossible to ever bring about compromise. In addition, the online copyright wars will probably continue until one, or both, simply dies out. Is this grim perspective a possible reality?
Me: This is the beginning, not the end. And there is no war. What’s taken as strife is just the process of radical change happening. Compromise isn’t necessary.
What can we do? What can we DOOOO ?!
Henry Emrich would be the first to tell you he did a polar switch from being one of the hardest of the hard-core supporters of the idea that people who share are thieves, and that the world owes the corporate movie and music industries a living.
But he’s smart and since he is, when he realised he was being taken for a ride by the cartels, he climbed off their bandwagon.
In a Reader’s Write to Ryan’s The Pirate Bay decision means … nothing, Henry says »»»
Everybody needs to read up on something called ‘cointelpro’. It was a CIA operation which involved infiltrating ‘dissident’ organizations to spread what we’d now describe as ‘FUD’ â ‘Fear, uncertainty, and doubt’.
We all know â or at least suspect â that various trolls defending the corporations actions (you know who you are) infest the various p2p-related boards to spew pro-corporate crap and intentionally ‘misunderstand’ our position.
But I’m really coming to the conclusion that the REAL threat comes from supposedly ‘well-meaning’ types … who add nothing to the debate by cynicism and defeatist thinking.
The pattern goes like this:
1. Overstate your opponent’s power at every turn. (‘Ooh, I just KNEW the big evil MAFIAA megacorps were gonna win this one!’ etc. etc.)
2. Downplay your side’s power at every turn (‘What can WE do against a bunch of megacorps and their government goons’, etc etc.)
3. When confronted with evidence that their ‘win’ isn’t as solid or meaningful as portrayed, discount it.
I’m not trying to flame anybody here, but to claim that Big Media is ‘winning’ is a real stretch:
Sure they’ve managed to score a few ‘hits’, even some high-profile stuff, but in the process they:
A. Pissed a whole generation of people off.
B. Turned copyright (and by extension ‘intellectual property’ itself) into a laughing-stock.
C. Demonstrated conclusively that whatever our economic system IS, corporate capitalism is NOT a ‘free’ market, and they don’t want it to be.
Now, let’s look at the few ‘wins’ they’ve managed to score:
Jammie Thomas: overturned at appeal, so now it gets to grind through the system all over again.
That’s out of how many thousands of harassment suits, in the US (the jurisdiction which is MOST favorable to their bullshit), and they’ve only been able to score 1 decisive ‘win’, which was then over-ruled.
Remember when the RIAA types televised a bunch of teenagers during that award show, having the teens download stuff? I’m really starting to think that their NEW tactic is to have ‘sincere’-sounding folks post defeatism like the above simply to demoralize us, and get us to over-estimate the threat.
You’re frustrated and think they’re ‘winning?’ You think p2p advocates/corporate watchdogs/grassroots activists don’t stand a chance because the opposition is ‘too powerful?’
Drop out, now. Because that’s what your defeatist nonsense can ever accomplish.
To put it bluntly, we can’t AFFORD defeatism, because let’s be honest: ALL OUR OPPONENTS HAVE is their cronies in government and a hell of a lot of misinformation. Let’s not give them the satisfaction of cowering, okay?
TPB is still there, the verdict isn’t even anywhere close to final (and this could take years, as Sunde said) to BECOME final.
‘Winning?’ Pffffffgh, yeah sure.
(Just like they ‘won’ on the Napster thing, but had to keep their shitty lobotomize corporate knockoff using the same logo.)
But hey, keep sewing seed of FUD, because we all know the best way to win is through defeatist attitude.
Right. Keep it up,
The joke is on Dan
Henry’s comments come in response to others in the story from Ryan, an admin at eZee.se over in Sweden.
In it, says Ryan, “I’m no stranger to the lets-stretch-the-truth releases (also known as press releases) from Hollywood.”
He continues »»»
But maybe I’m just a bit irritated by the way the TPB’s fiasco turned out so I just had to write a second post.
In a previous article on p2pnet Dan ‘The Joker’ Glickman said:
“This decision will help to support the continued investment in talent and in new online services, and the creation of new films and television shows for enjoyment by audiences around the world.”
I respond with:
- Appeal in the works: check
- ThePirateBay.org still online: check
- ThePirateBay.org – no downtime planned and no plans of being forcefully taken offline by law: check
- All torrents and tracker still online: check
- No torrents deleted: check
- Accepting new torrents: check
- Dan Glickman still a douche: check
(Most important) Public opinion not been swayed by the decision: check
Will someone *please* explain to me what exactly have they gained by this “win”?
- Is this the final say on this matter?
- What have they taken down?
- How have they curbed ‘piracy’?
- Heck, leave “curbed”, how have they even slowed down piracy with this verdict?
- How have they made it harder to get pirated movies and songs?
Other than the pro-filesharers, I’ve seen a lot of comments from “industry people” on this blog (you can usually make them out as the dimwitted posts, you know who you are) so please, I ask any one of you dimwi oops, people, to kindly enlighten us parrot-on-shoulder-peg-legged pirates how your “HQ” can make such ridiculous if not downright ludicrous statements and think people won’t see it for the BS it is.
In short, the defeat in Sweden isn’t a defeat.
It’s just another stage in the process.
And remember: the one statistic the “devastated” labels and studio never call up when they’re claiming they’re being ruined by file sharing is the one arising because millions of people now routinely boycott corporate ‘product’.
And their numbers grow every time someone new opens an online account.
You can also bet the house that Time Warner, Viacom, Fox, Sony, NBC Universal and Disney, and Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony Music know almost to the penny how much their ridiculous war against the people who keep them alive has cost, and is costing, them —- or, I should say, is costing their shareholders.
Gandhi also said, “Be the change you want to see in the world.”
Jon Newton – p2pnet
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