well spoken, I had not thought of that point of inherited archiving. Very impressive point.

Recent “new” music is so uncreative (except for a small spattering of jazz, folk, classical, and down temp lounge space music) that I couldn’t listen to it even if these corporate criminals paid me to. How much Britney Spears, Clay Aiken, any rapper, any R&B, any pop act, any country act, etc. can one stand today?

How many times can you watch the same cartoonish special effects of cars, buildings, or highways blowing up? How many times can you watch the same plot lines used in movie after movie? How many times can you watch a “comedy” movie that is not funny?

Now don’t come down on me about the above. It’s meant as generalizations. I do realize that there are the occasional gems like the movie “Slum Dog Millionaire” or the music CD “She & Him: Volume One” that surface to the top of the art-for-sale bin every now and then. And I’ll buy them, but, as far as consuming mass quantities of what’s out there in the “For Sale” atomic dust bins of these corporate peddlers like I used to 10 to 20 years ago—forget it. Those days are over forever.

Let me explain further to you where I’m coming from on this RIAA/MPAA issue–many millions of people the world over are musically positioned similar to me in that they’ve already invested in almost all the music CD’s they are ever going to buy. I own over 700 classical music CD’s containing all the necessary performances of all the necessary works by all the necessary composers. I finished buying them all in 1992. I don’t ever need to buy another artist’s rendition of Mozart’s Piano Concerto No. 21 (unless the performer is so over the top as to be unbelievable). I own over 250 important milestone jazz CD’s by THE main artists of the genre–Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie, Wynton Marsalis, McCoy Tyner, Oscar Peterson, Jimmy Smith, Chick Corea, Marcus Roberts, Ramsey Lewis, Charles Mingus, Pat Metheny, (this list is by no means exhaustive, and, no, there will never ever be anyone better than them ever!) etc. I don’t need anything else. I alsoown over 500 other CD’s that are unclassifiable, but, nonetheless just as important.

The same can be said of my movie/music DVD collection. I have “2001-A Space Odyssey”, “The Grapes of Wrath”, “Casablanca”, “Citizen Kane”, “Godfather”, “Amadeus”, “The Last Emperor”, “Schindler’s List”, “Saving Private Ryan”, “All About Eve”, “Raging Bull”, “Star Wars”, “Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid”, “The Piano”, “Annie Hall”, “Notorious”, “Taxi Driver”, “Easy Rider”, “True Grit”, “The Graduate”, “Bullitt”, “Barefoot In The Park”, “On The Water Front”, “Apocalypse Now”, “Rocky”, “West Side Story”, “Last Tango In Paris”, “Doctor Zhivago”, “Lawrence Of Arabia”, “A Raisin In The Sun”, “Chariots Of Fire”, “Ben-Hur”, “Planet Of The Apes”, etc., etc., etc…
In the final analysis, guess what is going to happen to my collection? I’m going to pass it down to my kids, and they to their kids, etc.. I know, I know, the CDs and DVDs will eventually wear out. Well, that’s why I bought a computer—to make back up copies.

And that is the number one fundamental real, secret issue the RIAA and the MPAA is having against the computer-using general world population that they only see as dollar signs. It’s not against file sharers because when a file sharer likes something they downloaded they more often than not go out and buy the retail version. Even the RIAA and MPAA could not be that dumb. They’ve known for years that downloading leads to greater sales of their crap at the retail level. So what is it then? Why do they want to slay the goose that lays the golden eggs?

Simply, the RIAA and MPAA don’t want you and me to have fair use rights. However, because I have heavily invested in technology for backup purposes, I should have the right to make back up copies of everything I own as long as it’s for my and my families personal use.

But they don’t want you to even have that right so they pursue small down loaders in hopes of chilling fair use copying. It doesn’t matter if you have no plans to resale your backups or to upload them. The genie is already out of the bag and they don’t see it or even want to acknowledge it. Digital 1s and 0s can be copied perfectly forever. They want to sell the same goddamned digital items I bought from them years ago to my sons and daughters and their sons and daughters at highly inflated prices ad infinitum.

They don’t want you and I to pass our music and movie collection on. They don’t have the intellectual and creative capacity to attract enough worthy successors to even parallel a small fraction of the genius of an Oscar Peterson let alone the hundreds of geniuses in my collection.

Well guess what? Even on the analog level of the past 500 years I guess they should have closed libraries down. They should have had book/LP/Tape police watching for and stopping people from loaning their copyrighted books/LPs/Tapes to friends, neighbors, and relatives. They should have stopped radio stations from broadcasting the playing of copyrighted music.

They should have stopped Sony, Memorex, and TDK from making blank recordable cassette tapes from the 1970’s on. Wait, isn’t Sony a part of the RIAA and MPAA? Don’t they also make DVD recorders and blank recordable DVD media?

The above paragraphs alone should be more than enough to defeat any court challenge against P2P down loaders by the RIAA and MPAA. It hasn’t, therefore, our court and political systems are corrupt.

Exactly.

“But they’re gonna milk this non-event for every dollop of publicity and misinformation.”

In this way we really cannot compete with them, they are spin doctors and BS slingers of the highest order, something that can only be achieved by selling your soul to the devil… which kind of puts us out of the picture.

Even had they “lost” they would have made sure it was a media bonanza:
Sweden harbours pirates, lawless country, no respect for IP, when will Sweden come into the modern age, Respect Treaty, poor artists, no chance for coming up artists, billions in loss, impunity blah de blah de blah de blah.
Get some “artists” to come out and say “Shame Sweden, we… blah blah”

There was going to be a spin either way, so lets forget it and sit back and watch while the cogs of “justice” grind ever so slowly ahead, by the time we get a conclusive answer to this… everyone will be anonymously sharing and the MAFIAA will look back at these times and realize just how easy they had it.

As for the rest of your mail mate, some other time…
enjoy your weekend!

Cheers! /Ryan

Not in substantive terms against piracy, no.
But they’re gonna milk this non-event for every dollop of publicity and misinformation.

I mean, look at the reaction on torrentfreak/zeropaid/boycott-riaa.com: huge amounts of irate “oh god how can this happen” type of nonsense, conveninently ignoring the fact that as far as legally-binding decisions go, NOTHING happened, and nothing will happen until after the appeals process is finished.
That’s the problem: they’ve got a significant proportion of the p2p/copyfight/pirate “scene” stirred up and reacting like something happened. This is pretty much the only site where we’re halfway calm about it. Why is that?

Like I said, I may be being cynical, but I really think a significant proportion of the “outrage” over this thing is manufactured by IFPI/RIAA themselves. It’s not like they’ve been doing all that well in terms of cases:

Spain just about legalized “non-commercial” filesharing, so they have to do this hamfisted bullshit about trying to brand what that guy did as a “commercial” activity because the site had ads. That’s a sign of pure desperation, there.

Or how bout the cammers who get a token fine, and no other repercussions?
Or Stateside, the RIAA having their only “win” thrown out, so they have to do it all over again?

They’re losing bad. TPB is still up, the trial was NEVER even AGAINST TPB itself, only about four guys, and would have been appealed even if TPB had “won” on Friday, anyway.

So the real leverage for the RIAA is in terms of the disinformation/propaganda department.

Now what I wonder, like I said before, is how much coverage there’ll be when the case really IS decided (after the appeals):

I can tell you now, that there won’t be any street-parties, vigils, or suchlike. TPB will still be there, people will still be happily downloading away, other cases will be grinding forward in the ever-so-slow fashion we’ve come to expect, and the real verdict won’t even make the blogs.

I really hope the upsurge in Pirate-party membership translates into something substantive, but I have my doubts: the fact that somebody used the term “freetard” on here, in comments which were otherwise sympathetic to our concerns is disquieting in the extreme, because it makes me think that maybe WE believe the RIAA’S propaganda line, ourselves.

Any thoughts?

Another question that’s been bugging me recently:
So are we boycotting, or do “pirates” buy more stuff?
Seems to be a few different answers there.

I’m just really puzzled by that. I mean, if the pro-p2p studies ARE true, then a significant proportion of us are still “feeding the beast” that continues to attack and destroy anything outside of it’s “business model.”

I mean, don’t get me wrong: if at least SOME p2p users didn’t also continue to buy corporate “product”, the corps would just declare us all to be “freetards” anyway. So, I’m really confused.

1. How much of the FUD and panic going around is really genuine, and how much of it is orchestrated?
2. Are p2pers boycotting, or not?
3. Will the Pirate-party actuall show substantive improvement (will people actually bother to take a stand politically, or is the growth in membership just blathering?)

Somebody tell me, because I really can’t figure this out. It’s obvious that THEY can’t win, but if we’re not careful, we could win it FOR them, if that makes any sense…..

When I said: “What have they taken down?”

I meant by this ruling, this case, not history on the whole.

The way they are shouting from the rooftops someone would think TPB website is down….
visited a couple of times today so I can tell you with absolute certainty: Its not. ALL the other places to get pirated content (including Google) are functioning perfectly as well.

While its a nice flowery piece to wave around, the fact is, the verdict has really achieved nothing online or _in the real world_.

Cheers!
/Ryan

But it’s down to only four heads. And it’s brain-damaged.

Cheers!

Well these corporations lost my business a while ago but to address the question of “What have they taken down?”
Just from my small file sharing experience Ive seen them take down Napster, Kazaa (and similar p2p attacks at k-lite, morpheus, limewire), Lokitorrent (plastered their propaganda on the front page so everyone would know the MPAA was responsible), Demonoid (threatening attempt), TPB (attempt), isoHunt (threatening attempts). All were(are) extremely powerful/useful and could have easily been used to turn even more profit for the aforementioned corporate scum. Yet….

The hydra lives on.
In the meantime, I’ll support the artists who ask for donations not the ones who try to take down websites or support lobby groups as they descend on govts worldwide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJGQ_tTmYgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSQhR6a_uUw

Cheers!

LOL!