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Phorm launches anti- Anti-Phorm site

p2pnet news view P2P | Advertising:- Deep Privacy Invasion pirate Kent Ertugrul is trying to take the high ground with a new site designed to out-anti Alex Hanff’s NoDPI and the BadPhorm sites.

This is somewhat like George W. Bush trying to claim he had absolutely nothing to do with the world-wide recession.

Ertugrul runs Phorm, a company whose Web Wise technology lifts people’s personal and private data for resale to advertisers for use in ‘behavioural targeting’ and other kinds of  unfriendly persuasion.

He’s made personal attacks on Hanff  and on his new site, called StopPhoulPlay (No! Really!), says »»»

Over the last year Phorm has been the subject of a smear campaign orchestrated by a small but dedicated band of online “privacy pirates” who appear very determined to harm our company. Their energetic blogging and letter-writing campaigns, targeted at journalists, MPs, EU officials and regulators, distort the truth and misrepresent Phorm’s technology. We have decided to expose the smears and set out the true story, so that you cthough itan judge the facts for yourself.

StopPhoulPlay looks “incredibly unprofessional,” says The Guardian, going on:

It’s, “also referenced Privacy International head Simon Davis in its introduction, which is a whole other can of worms.”

“Unless I’m sorely mistaken, something here smells rotten,” says Ertugrul on the site.

He isn’t, and it does.

Phorm is, “under scrutiny after a Freedom of Information requests revealed that the [British] Home Office  apparently offered ‘informal guidance’ to the company on the legality of its ad-targeting service,” says The Guardian, continuing »»»

Correspondence back to August 2007 shows Phorm asked the Home Office for guidance and asking several times if it had “no objection to the marketing and operation of the Phorm product in the UK”.

The Home Office has previously denied providing any advice to Phorm over any possible criminal liability for the service, but the exchange revealed by the FOI request shows the ministry asking for Phorm’s opinion on its targeted advertising guidance and how it related to Phorm.

A Home Office official said in an email in August 2007: “My personal view accords with yours, that even if it is ‘interception’, which I am doubtful of, it is lawfully authorised under section 3 by virtue of the user’s consent obtained in signing up to the ISPs terms and conditions.”

Another, in January 2008, shows an official attaching guidance notes and asking Phorm for its opinion. The official later thanked Phorm for suggesting comments and deletions to the Home Office’s notes.

“If we agree this,” wrote the official, “and this becomes our position do you think your clients and their prospective partners will be comforted.”

Don’t buy shares in Phorm and if you already have, sell them immediately for whatever you can get.

Meanwhile, stay tuned.

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April, 2009

personal attacks – Phorm boss Ertugrul attacks Alex Hanff, April 28, 2009


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6 Responses to “Phorm launches anti- Anti-Phorm site”

  1. Matt Says:

    Just paid a visit to the StopPhoulPlay site (http://www.stopphoulplay.com/) and had a small chuckle to myself as I received a stern warning from the WoT extension in Firefox “This site has a poor reputation.”.. :-)

  2. Devil's Advocate Says:

    “I received a stern warning from the WoT extension in Firefox ‘This site has a poor reputation.’ ”
    LMFAO!!

    “StopPhoulPlay”?!?!
    That’s fuckin’ priceless?!!!
    Pushes the Pathos Meter right through the god-damned roof, that does!

    Kent, and all those with the same desires, should just pull out the ethernet cords right now and get a completely new, less anti-social, hobby.

  3. Reader's Write Says:

    I smell another pirate bay stitch up. Fu**ing bastards. Europe will ultimately ignore this just like the UK government did. Where is the opposition when you need them? ANSWER nowhere in site.

  4. Alexander Hanff Says:

    I have posted a second response to Phorm’s diatribe:

    https://nodpi.org/2009/04/29/lessons-to-be-learned/

    Alexander Hanff

  5. Reader's Write Says:

    Funny that Phorm doesn’t want to be limited to “opt-in” isn’t it? Could it be that they know themselves if you got the choice, you’re not going to allow your data stolen just so they can serve you ads you don’t want to begin with?

    Phorm’s biggest problem is how to get around the objections so they can make a shit load of money. Notice they are not offering to pay you for your surfing habits. Nor do I hear the big foo-fah-rah anymore about those extra services that were being offered to those served ads by Phorm, such as spyware hunters that were actually for free to begin with.

    I got news for ya. I don’t want ads. Not one. If I want a product I will search for it. What I don’t want is the pest industry that is constantly fighting for your attention to their interests. Their definition of what constitutes privacy and what you expect to be as privacy are rarely the same because they are at cross interests.

  6. Scaramouche Says:

    I think its time to start buying shares in secure VPN companies. With the way things are going with government censorship, government spying, DPI, ISP’s in bed with MAFIAA you need to take pro-active steps to protect yourself.

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