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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-989059</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a letter from my ISP saying that according to MediaSentry, I had downloaded a copyrighted file on the 30th October 2009. They had the P2P program,  my IP address and Port Number used. The trouble is that the file they say was downloaded on the 30th was created on my PC on the 19th and never made available for anyone to upload. Work that one out. My ISP had thankfully refused to give them any personal information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a letter from my ISP saying that according to MediaSentry, I had downloaded a copyrighted file on the 30th October 2009. They had the P2P program,  my IP address and Port Number used. The trouble is that the file they say was downloaded on the 30th was created on my PC on the 19th and never made available for anyone to upload. Work that one out. My ISP had thankfully refused to give them any personal information.</p>
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		<title>By: super-secret squirrel</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-975102</link>
		<dc:creator>super-secret squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, some crappy tools call anything a trojan they cannot cleary identify as good or bad. MediaDefender/MediaSentry would certainly distribute adware. You can use virusscan.jotti.org to scan suspicious files with multiple scanners.  If you have to rely on a virus scanner to keep your system clean, that&#039;s a lost case though and just a question of time before something slips through the cracks. Only use well-known software from official sources and whenever possible use open-source software. Just avoid any software that is heavily advertised for, especially those which make strong promises and only install software you really need.

KDX? That&#039;s so obscure that absolutely nobody, not even the &quot;MAFIAA&quot; is going to care about it. That doesn&#039;t make it useful though.

PeerGuardian is nothing but a glorified packet filter which is the simplest firewall possible and PG is most-likely the most primitive. Every half-decent OS already comes with a packet filter, so its reason d&#039;etre kind of escapes me but that&#039;s hype for you. Any half-decent P2P filesharing application can filter and block IP address ranges, some even maintain their own list (LimeWire for example). That&#039;s far better and powerful because PeerGuardian doesn&#039;t know any P2P protocols and cannot look inside packets. Also banning IP address ranges is never surgically clean. There&#039;ll always be collateral damages becauses ranges are shared and overlap all the time. If the application filters itself, it&#039;ll only matter for the application but not anything else like IRC, email, web, ftp etc. Many banned ranges are also used by  YouTube and other big websites which have nothing to do with their P2P spamming neighbours. That&#039;ll cause a lot of fall-out which you might not even notice because you might not immediately think of PeerGuardian when something doesn&#039;t load or work.

The worst isn&#039;t the software &quot;PeerGuardian&quot; but actually BlueTack who are just a bunch of egomaniacs with mediocre skill and knowledge. All they do is a bit of googling, whois lookups and the like. They have a really bad record of banning innocent guys just because WHOIS showed something that looked suspicious to their paranoid minds. They also block ranges just because some random guy in their forum suggests it.

You could even get the idea that BlueTack operate under a false flag and are actually anti-P2P. However, one should never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, some crappy tools call anything a trojan they cannot cleary identify as good or bad. MediaDefender/MediaSentry would certainly distribute adware. You can use virusscan.jotti.org to scan suspicious files with multiple scanners.  If you have to rely on a virus scanner to keep your system clean, that&#8217;s a lost case though and just a question of time before something slips through the cracks. Only use well-known software from official sources and whenever possible use open-source software. Just avoid any software that is heavily advertised for, especially those which make strong promises and only install software you really need.</p>
<p>KDX? That&#8217;s so obscure that absolutely nobody, not even the &#8220;MAFIAA&#8221; is going to care about it. That doesn&#8217;t make it useful though.</p>
<p>PeerGuardian is nothing but a glorified packet filter which is the simplest firewall possible and PG is most-likely the most primitive. Every half-decent OS already comes with a packet filter, so its reason d&#8217;etre kind of escapes me but that&#8217;s hype for you. Any half-decent P2P filesharing application can filter and block IP address ranges, some even maintain their own list (LimeWire for example). That&#8217;s far better and powerful because PeerGuardian doesn&#8217;t know any P2P protocols and cannot look inside packets. Also banning IP address ranges is never surgically clean. There&#8217;ll always be collateral damages becauses ranges are shared and overlap all the time. If the application filters itself, it&#8217;ll only matter for the application but not anything else like IRC, email, web, ftp etc. Many banned ranges are also used by  YouTube and other big websites which have nothing to do with their P2P spamming neighbours. That&#8217;ll cause a lot of fall-out which you might not even notice because you might not immediately think of PeerGuardian when something doesn&#8217;t load or work.</p>
<p>The worst isn&#8217;t the software &#8220;PeerGuardian&#8221; but actually BlueTack who are just a bunch of egomaniacs with mediocre skill and knowledge. All they do is a bit of googling, whois lookups and the like. They have a really bad record of banning innocent guys just because WHOIS showed something that looked suspicious to their paranoid minds. They also block ranges just because some random guy in their forum suggests it.</p>
<p>You could even get the idea that BlueTack operate under a false flag and are actually anti-P2P. However, one should never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974596</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things the RIAA does that they know they can get away with becuase they will never
be called to task for it .......

1. Spread trojans and virii on P2P networks in order to scare folks away from them.
2. Distribute new release via P2P networks in order to get them to their partner radio 
    stations quickly. A fact that  .. if it were to come to light .. would destroy their litigation
    campaign since the fact that they are putting them on P2P themselves would imply
    consent to distribute by the copyright holders. pretty neat, eh ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things the RIAA does that they know they can get away with becuase they will never<br />
be called to task for it &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>1. Spread trojans and virii on P2P networks in order to scare folks away from them.<br />
2. Distribute new release via P2P networks in order to get them to their partner radio<br />
    stations quickly. A fact that  .. if it were to come to light .. would destroy their litigation<br />
    campaign since the fact that they are putting them on P2P themselves would imply<br />
    consent to distribute by the copyright holders. pretty neat, eh ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974595</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; âI reads this guys articles before on this site.â

yu dun reads my articles? well gursh dungit, thanks billybobjoe. heres us hopin uz gets first place in the hog show tarmmera ! &quot;

 I think I just shat myself laughing.


 &quot; I would doubt that MediaSentry would deliberately spread trojans &quot;
 
 What planet do you hail from ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; âI reads this guys articles before on this site.â</p>
<p>yu dun reads my articles? well gursh dungit, thanks billybobjoe. heres us hopin uz gets first place in the hog show tarmmera ! &#8221;</p>
<p> I think I just shat myself laughing.</p>
<p> &#8221; I would doubt that MediaSentry would deliberately spread trojans &#8221;</p>
<p> What planet do you hail from ?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Farthing</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974593</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Farthing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Optional Name - The forum you&#039;re thinking of wasn&#039;t PeerGuardian&#039;s.

PG is a small, open source firewall application that can take filter lists (or &quot;blocklists&quot;) from any source. We used to run our own blocklist website where users could vote on and monitor specific ranges, as well as connect them to WHOIS data and other useful stuff. Sadly after events listed here - http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6275 we haven&#039;t been able to successfully restart this website - copyright on the code was owned by the server admin who hijacked our paypal account and domain names.

Most people use the blocklists from http://bluetack.co.uk/, but several others are also available and are presented to the user when they first start the application.

I did a bit of list-editing back when the blocklist website was up, and ranges were either listed for fake files (like those old Madonna &quot;f**** off&quot; ones) or because they came up as a &quot;mediasentry&quot;/&quot;baytsp&quot; style company on WHOIS. 90% of the time, the fake file sharing servers just resolved to one of the various media orgs and it was easy to extract the entire range.

Obviously some list makers have been over-zealous, but that isn&#039;t our fault - we make a very lightweight filter designed to block a list of IP addresses without overloading your RAM - adding lots of ranges into a standard firewall will probably max it out - it certainly did when I used to use Sygate and Outpost back in the day.

As for this specific block, I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m completely unaware of anything related to this. I would doubt that MediaSentry would deliberately spread trojans, and don&#039;t forget that the best protocols are always Open Source. :)

Have a great day,

Joseph Farthing
Public Relations
Phoenix Labs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Optional Name &#8211; The forum you&#8217;re thinking of wasn&#8217;t PeerGuardian&#8217;s.</p>
<p>PG is a small, open source firewall application that can take filter lists (or &#8220;blocklists&#8221;) from any source. We used to run our own blocklist website where users could vote on and monitor specific ranges, as well as connect them to WHOIS data and other useful stuff. Sadly after events listed here &#8211; <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6275" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/6275</a> we haven&#8217;t been able to successfully restart this website &#8211; copyright on the code was owned by the server admin who hijacked our paypal account and domain names.</p>
<p>Most people use the blocklists from <a href="http://bluetack.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://bluetack.co.uk/</a>, but several others are also available and are presented to the user when they first start the application.</p>
<p>I did a bit of list-editing back when the blocklist website was up, and ranges were either listed for fake files (like those old Madonna &#8220;f**** off&#8221; ones) or because they came up as a &#8220;mediasentry&#8221;/&#8221;baytsp&#8221; style company on WHOIS. 90% of the time, the fake file sharing servers just resolved to one of the various media orgs and it was easy to extract the entire range.</p>
<p>Obviously some list makers have been over-zealous, but that isn&#8217;t our fault &#8211; we make a very lightweight filter designed to block a list of IP addresses without overloading your RAM &#8211; adding lots of ranges into a standard firewall will probably max it out &#8211; it certainly did when I used to use Sygate and Outpost back in the day.</p>
<p>As for this specific block, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m completely unaware of anything related to this. I would doubt that MediaSentry would deliberately spread trojans, and don&#8217;t forget that the best protocols are always Open Source. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have a great day,</p>
<p>Joseph Farthing<br />
Public Relations<br />
Phoenix Labs</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974591</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are plenty to be had (kraks for KDX), as well as other free alternatives. My reference to KDX was more on &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt;, and not so much what. Don&#039;t take it as a suggestion, only an observation that it exists, including the kraks.

stw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are plenty to be had (kraks for KDX), as well as other free alternatives. My reference to KDX was more on <i>how</i>, and not so much what. Don&#8217;t take it as a suggestion, only an observation that it exists, including the kraks.</p>
<p>stw</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974590</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 20:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1. Download KDX, ( http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/ ), a file sharing protocol thatâs direct P2P, and/or server based. It allows chat, news, and encrypted file transfers. (Yes, you have to pay for it)&quot;

I love it! In an article about MediaSentry trying to catch people for copyright infringement, Surfer posts instructions on how to avoid being caught. The direct implication is that you can use KDX to safely share copyrighted material. However the very first step says &quot;Yes, you have to pay for it&quot;. 

I&#039;m tempted to post a crack for KDX just on principle. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1. Download KDX, ( <a href="http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/" rel="nofollow">http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/</a> ), a file sharing protocol thatâs direct P2P, and/or server based. It allows chat, news, and encrypted file transfers. (Yes, you have to pay for it)&#8221;</p>
<p>I love it! In an article about MediaSentry trying to catch people for copyright infringement, Surfer posts instructions on how to avoid being caught. The direct implication is that you can use KDX to safely share copyrighted material. However the very first step says &#8220;Yes, you have to pay for it&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tempted to post a crack for KDX just on principle. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974589</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 20:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I reads this guys articles before on this site.&#039;

yu dun reads my articles? well gursh dungit, thanks billybobjoe. heres us hopin uz gets first place in the hog show tarmmera !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I reads this guys articles before on this site.&#8217;</p>
<p>yu dun reads my articles? well gursh dungit, thanks billybobjoe. heres us hopin uz gets first place in the hog show tarmmera !</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974588</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 20:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;p2pnet technical editor surfer&quot;

What are his technical qualifications?

he uses P2P?

Any fucking drone can use P2P. That is why P2P was made.

What a load of BS.

I reads this guys articles before on this site.

surfer, as a &quot;p2pnet technical editor&quot; better put out a fucking amzing article or I WILL rip him a new one and cast him as the wannabe that he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;p2pnet technical editor surfer&#8221;</p>
<p>What are his technical qualifications?</p>
<p>he uses P2P?</p>
<p>Any fucking drone can use P2P. That is why P2P was made.</p>
<p>What a load of BS.</p>
<p>I reads this guys articles before on this site.</p>
<p>surfer, as a &#8220;p2pnet technical editor&#8221; better put out a fucking amzing article or I WILL rip him a new one and cast him as the wannabe that he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974586</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are people actually still using Norton products?!?
[shakes head]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people actually still using Norton products?!?<br />
[shakes head]</p>
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		<title>By: eh</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974585</link>
		<dc:creator>eh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Optional name said:
&quot;Anyone can get a range of IPâs to snoop, peer guardian wonât even block them. I donât see the point in this over-hyped app. But, anything is better than nothing though. So that point makes the case (nothing else does).&quot;
---

Surfer, who pretends to be the lord of warez says:
&quot;the above message is brought to you by Norton Firewall, the fastest, lightest, online protection.&quot;
---

fuck, if you don&#039;t know this, then lord help you.

But yeah if you don&#039;t have a firewall to put in the IP ranges, then peer guardian is for you (and it black list is hyped, look in their own forum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Optional name said:<br />
&#8220;Anyone can get a range of IPâs to snoop, peer guardian wonât even block them. I donât see the point in this over-hyped app. But, anything is better than nothing though. So that point makes the case (nothing else does).&#8221;<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Surfer, who pretends to be the lord of warez says:<br />
&#8220;the above message is brought to you by Norton Firewall, the fastest, lightest, online protection.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>fuck, if you don&#8217;t know this, then lord help you.</p>
<p>But yeah if you don&#8217;t have a firewall to put in the IP ranges, then peer guardian is for you (and it black list is hyped, look in their own forum).</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974584</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the above message is brought to you by Norton Firewall, the fastest, lightest, online protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the above message is brought to you by Norton Firewall, the fastest, lightest, online protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Optional Name</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974582</link>
		<dc:creator>Optional Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too up to date on this peer-guardian hype (and hype is what I consider peer-guardian).

Over a year ago, maybe 2 I don&#039;t remember, I went through their forum and basically they were adding any friggin IP/IP-ranges kids were tossing at them.

Legit companies blocked, company IP&#039;s that had the name of any of the cartels listed, shit even Bell Canada IP&#039;s were blocked. In Bell&#039;s forum it was filing up with question on why peer-guardian was blocking their forum IP.

That peer-guardian is a load of bull to me. Yeah sure, it may block a legit cartel or legit mediasentry IP, but in a lot of cases its block list is a load of hyped crap.

Anyone can get a range of IP&#039;s to snoop, peer guardian won&#039;t even block them. I don&#039;t see the point in this over-hyped app. But, anything is better than nothing though. So that point makes the case (nothing else does).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too up to date on this peer-guardian hype (and hype is what I consider peer-guardian).</p>
<p>Over a year ago, maybe 2 I don&#8217;t remember, I went through their forum and basically they were adding any friggin IP/IP-ranges kids were tossing at them.</p>
<p>Legit companies blocked, company IP&#8217;s that had the name of any of the cartels listed, shit even Bell Canada IP&#8217;s were blocked. In Bell&#8217;s forum it was filing up with question on why peer-guardian was blocking their forum IP.</p>
<p>That peer-guardian is a load of bull to me. Yeah sure, it may block a legit cartel or legit mediasentry IP, but in a lot of cases its block list is a load of hyped crap.</p>
<p>Anyone can get a range of IP&#8217;s to snoop, peer guardian won&#8217;t even block them. I don&#8217;t see the point in this over-hyped app. But, anything is better than nothing though. So that point makes the case (nothing else does).</p>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22129/comment-page-1#comment-974580</link>
		<dc:creator>surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 16:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also found Darkstar Management seeding trojans to the bittorrent world. In MASSIVE amounts.

&#039;whats good for the goose is good for the gander.&#039;

I have about had it with these asshats, therefore I am going on the offensive. Hacking them down would only make them move locations, therefore, I am going to use another tactic, information.

Exposing their bullshit to the p2pnet readership will at least allow the users here to better defend themselves against the stupid ploys currently being engaged by these greedy conglomerates in order to force feed you garbage content, when, where, and for how much they dictate.

stay tuned...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also found Darkstar Management seeding trojans to the bittorrent world. In MASSIVE amounts.</p>
<p>&#8216;whats good for the goose is good for the gander.&#8217;</p>
<p>I have about had it with these asshats, therefore I am going on the offensive. Hacking them down would only make them move locations, therefore, I am going to use another tactic, information.</p>
<p>Exposing their bullshit to the p2pnet readership will at least allow the users here to better defend themselves against the stupid ploys currently being engaged by these greedy conglomerates in order to force feed you garbage content, when, where, and for how much they dictate.</p>
<p>stay tuned&#8230;</p>
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