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	<title>Comments on: Fair Use? &#8216;Not under the DMCA,&#8217; says MPAA</title>
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		<title>By: eBuster</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the DCMA is going too far and is being used to silence critics of corporations such as eBay who server a notice on my host because the site I run at ebuster,co,uk contains documents relating to wide scale fraud on eBay and as such it is important that pages that are displayed are not tampered with.

This time I had some luck since eBay picked on a fake login page I displayed after I had asked eBay on several occasions to get the page remove and from what I can understand they are upset about the eBay log at the top of the pages but it’s not like the site trying to compete against eBay and provides hundreds of links back to eBay.

The reason I present copies of pages is because eBay often remove pages where a dispute is involved so just how can anyone present case of wide scale fraud when it is becoming impossible to present evidence without have a gag order place on your host.

Yes I understand the reason for the DCMA but using it’s powers in this manor strikes at the heart of democracy and is allowing eBay to do as it pleases and in some cases it is not possible to remove the logo as some of the pages displayed on the site have been hijacked by script injection using hexadecimal code to overwrite the original page and therefore making it all but impossible to remove the eBay tm logo and no I don’t have a zillion$ to get involved with eBays lawyers but I do have freedom of speech so if that involves moving the site offshore then that is what I will do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the DCMA is going too far and is being used to silence critics of corporations such as eBay who server a notice on my host because the site I run at ebuster,co,uk contains documents relating to wide scale fraud on eBay and as such it is important that pages that are displayed are not tampered with.</p>
<p>This time I had some luck since eBay picked on a fake login page I displayed after I had asked eBay on several occasions to get the page remove and from what I can understand they are upset about the eBay log at the top of the pages but it’s not like the site trying to compete against eBay and provides hundreds of links back to eBay.</p>
<p>The reason I present copies of pages is because eBay often remove pages where a dispute is involved so just how can anyone present case of wide scale fraud when it is becoming impossible to present evidence without have a gag order place on your host.</p>
<p>Yes I understand the reason for the DCMA but using it’s powers in this manor strikes at the heart of democracy and is allowing eBay to do as it pleases and in some cases it is not possible to remove the logo as some of the pages displayed on the site have been hijacked by script injection using hexadecimal code to overwrite the original page and therefore making it all but impossible to remove the eBay tm logo and no I don’t have a zillion$ to get involved with eBays lawyers but I do have freedom of speech so if that involves moving the site offshore then that is what I will do</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; the mpaa need to stamp out this practice once and for all. i&#039;m sick of it &quot;. You must be really naive.
The US congress is bought and bribed by the MPAA and RIAA with kickbacks and bribes so Naive people like yourself will have to buy amother dvd if you want a backup copy if you are not tech savvy and you won&#039;t be banging their balls ripping their poopy movies off..... You know dvd decrypters are so common on the internet and many times for free  the movie studios would not even make any money off the decryption software or otherwise. Face it as the copyright law is written is the US making backup copies is illegal. Both the democrapic and republitard party prefers that way because they are cum drunk from the MPAA and RIAA&#039;s kickbacks and bribes , get it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the mpaa need to stamp out this practice once and for all. i&#8217;m sick of it &#8220;. You must be really naive.<br />
The US congress is bought and bribed by the MPAA and RIAA with kickbacks and bribes so Naive people like yourself will have to buy amother dvd if you want a backup copy if you are not tech savvy and you won&#8217;t be banging their balls ripping their poopy movies off&#8230;.. You know dvd decrypters are so common on the internet and many times for free  the movie studios would not even make any money off the decryption software or otherwise. Face it as the copyright law is written is the US making backup copies is illegal. Both the democrapic and republitard party prefers that way because they are cum drunk from the MPAA and RIAA&#8217;s kickbacks and bribes , get it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22147/comment-page-1#comment-974447</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Real, it&#039;s interesting how those copyright arguments can come back to bite you in the ass, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Real, it&#8217;s interesting how those copyright arguments can come back to bite you in the ass, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22147/comment-page-1#comment-974438</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the mpaa need to stamp out this practice once and for all. im sick of it</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22147/comment-page-1#comment-974428</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone: &quot;Would a boycott of your clients&#039; releases, both DVD/VHS and cinema, resulting in massive revenue loss that cannot be fabricated but actually calculated, help illustrate your inability to adapt to modern times?&quot;
Williams: &quot;That is a clear violation of the DMCA, circumvention is a violation of the DMCA, the copying of content from the DVD or cinema screen to your brain is a circumvention of the DMCA, and is illegal.&quot;

anyone: &quot;You didn&#039;t answer the question asked.  Next question, how do you justify paranoia about loss of revenues due to filesharing and piracy, where people actually make a profit by stealing and selling the physical product, with the massive profits your clients&#039; seem to make each quarter?  There seems to be a contradiction.&quot;
Williams: &quot;That also is a violation of the DMCA.  No copying is permitted, not even a fraction of a second, as there is no such thing as fair use except when it works to our benefit.  Our profits are not really profits, we&#039;re losing TRILLIONS of dollars each MONTH due to people stealing our movies, via filesharing or piracy or simply viewing them and describing the movies to their fellow thieves [consumers].  The record profits are eaten up by our litigation proceedings in attempt to reduce the loss of revenue due to stealing our content!&quot;

Congress should have actually read the DMCA and actually viewed presentations by more than fear mongering lobbyists.  Look at how the Swine Flu fears spread like wildfire.  People believe almost anything that can have a negative spin to it.  Perhaps those with political power should consider taking a step back and think for a moment, ensure they receive equal quantities of information from BOTH sides of the fence, and finally have a non-partisan party help in the analysis of BOTH piles of information.

At least then we&#039;d have proper analysis before passing laws based-on rubbish claims that could not be proven even if hand-waving was an acceptable form of proof by induction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone: &#8220;Would a boycott of your clients&#8217; releases, both DVD/VHS and cinema, resulting in massive revenue loss that cannot be fabricated but actually calculated, help illustrate your inability to adapt to modern times?&#8221;<br />
Williams: &#8220;That is a clear violation of the DMCA, circumvention is a violation of the DMCA, the copying of content from the DVD or cinema screen to your brain is a circumvention of the DMCA, and is illegal.&#8221;</p>
<p>anyone: &#8220;You didn&#8217;t answer the question asked.  Next question, how do you justify paranoia about loss of revenues due to filesharing and piracy, where people actually make a profit by stealing and selling the physical product, with the massive profits your clients&#8217; seem to make each quarter?  There seems to be a contradiction.&#8221;<br />
Williams: &#8220;That also is a violation of the DMCA.  No copying is permitted, not even a fraction of a second, as there is no such thing as fair use except when it works to our benefit.  Our profits are not really profits, we&#8217;re losing TRILLIONS of dollars each MONTH due to people stealing our movies, via filesharing or piracy or simply viewing them and describing the movies to their fellow thieves [consumers].  The record profits are eaten up by our litigation proceedings in attempt to reduce the loss of revenue due to stealing our content!&#8221;</p>
<p>Congress should have actually read the DMCA and actually viewed presentations by more than fear mongering lobbyists.  Look at how the Swine Flu fears spread like wildfire.  People believe almost anything that can have a negative spin to it.  Perhaps those with political power should consider taking a step back and think for a moment, ensure they receive equal quantities of information from BOTH sides of the fence, and finally have a non-partisan party help in the analysis of BOTH piles of information.</p>
<p>At least then we&#8217;d have proper analysis before passing laws based-on rubbish claims that could not be proven even if hand-waving was an acceptable form of proof by induction.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/22147/comment-page-1#comment-974411</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real, your attitude towards your competitors (Streambox) finally backfires!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real, your attitude towards your competitors (Streambox) finally backfires!</p>
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