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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4963</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you tell them dude you tell them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you tell them dude you tell them!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4941</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2004 02:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just how do you divide the proceeds between artists? Think before you write next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just how do you divide the proceeds between artists? Think before you write next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4915</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 07:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn - Would the writer of that please run for President of the US?  You&#039;ve got my vote!

As for one of the replies to this story that nobody would pay $10 a month for downloading legit services....    I have the answer that nobody either wants to hear or wants to think about on the isp side because it would add more work for them.

Any isp could do this and settle 100% of the problems:
If you transfer more than 2gb down or up in a month you pay an extra $1
If you transfer more than 10gb down or up in a month you pay an extra $5
and an extra $1 per 2gb there after.

Ok, yes, it would cost us more but #1 it solves the question of IF the artists get paid or not because the isp could take (and it would have to be required by law that 100% of the money NOT go to the isp) the money and drop it into a single fund - that fund would go 33% to the software companies, 33% to the Movie industry and 33% to the music industry. Ok I&#039;ll be fair, 5 cents out of every dollar would goto the isp&#039;s for processing fees.

They would LIKELY make more money that way than any other concept I&#039;ve heard to date.  Yes it would be ugly but what choice would the end users have but to pay unless they canceled their broadband lines?  This would cost people like me alot being that I download the latest linux iso&#039;s when they come out, to add to my LEGAL Direct Connect share, but I dont really care - at the point the isp&#039;s start collecting for it, THEN we could download and share whatever we wanted and it would be legal, everyone would be happy, and the story would be closed and THEN THE GOVT COULD MOVE ON TO REAL IMPORTANT PROBLEMS and less on these stupid issues that a GOVT should never have to think about...

Just my 15 cents.

_-Jile-_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn &#8211; Would the writer of that please run for President of the US?  You&#8217;ve got my vote!</p>
<p>As for one of the replies to this story that nobody would pay $10 a month for downloading legit services&#8230;.    I have the answer that nobody either wants to hear or wants to think about on the isp side because it would add more work for them.</p>
<p>Any isp could do this and settle 100% of the problems:<br />
If you transfer more than 2gb down or up in a month you pay an extra $1<br />
If you transfer more than 10gb down or up in a month you pay an extra $5<br />
and an extra $1 per 2gb there after.</p>
<p>Ok, yes, it would cost us more but #1 it solves the question of IF the artists get paid or not because the isp could take (and it would have to be required by law that 100% of the money NOT go to the isp) the money and drop it into a single fund &#8211; that fund would go 33% to the software companies, 33% to the Movie industry and 33% to the music industry. Ok I&#8217;ll be fair, 5 cents out of every dollar would goto the isp&#8217;s for processing fees.</p>
<p>They would LIKELY make more money that way than any other concept I&#8217;ve heard to date.  Yes it would be ugly but what choice would the end users have but to pay unless they canceled their broadband lines?  This would cost people like me alot being that I download the latest linux iso&#8217;s when they come out, to add to my LEGAL Direct Connect share, but I dont really care &#8211; at the point the isp&#8217;s start collecting for it, THEN we could download and share whatever we wanted and it would be legal, everyone would be happy, and the story would be closed and THEN THE GOVT COULD MOVE ON TO REAL IMPORTANT PROBLEMS and less on these stupid issues that a GOVT should never have to think about&#8230;</p>
<p>Just my 15 cents.</p>
<p>_-Jile-_</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4892</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think most people would pay $10 per month for the piss-poor quality of music you download for free.

You can get better quality by recording to cassette from the radio, oftentimes.

Maybe for $10 per year, you could get a large amount to subscribe.  But unless you are giving most people CD quality tracks, forget it.  This is just the same as sharing Albums/CD&#039;s/Tapes that has happened in the past under fair use.

Today, they need to give up the ghost of living off the avails of musicians.  Middlemen are going to die out, and actually have to do some real work for a change.

The industry is changing; just as anyone can now be a half-assed sound engineer with digital equipment, so can anyone rip audio tracks from their friends CD&#039;s and make copies.

They need to realize their days are numbered, and no amount of lawsuits will ever destroy it, just as the betamax didn&#039;t die (it merely became the industry standard, with VHS supplanting the home standard), neither will digital audio go away from suing a bunch of individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think most people would pay $10 per month for the piss-poor quality of music you download for free.</p>
<p>You can get better quality by recording to cassette from the radio, oftentimes.</p>
<p>Maybe for $10 per year, you could get a large amount to subscribe.  But unless you are giving most people CD quality tracks, forget it.  This is just the same as sharing Albums/CD&#8217;s/Tapes that has happened in the past under fair use.</p>
<p>Today, they need to give up the ghost of living off the avails of musicians.  Middlemen are going to die out, and actually have to do some real work for a change.</p>
<p>The industry is changing; just as anyone can now be a half-assed sound engineer with digital equipment, so can anyone rip audio tracks from their friends CD&#8217;s and make copies.</p>
<p>They need to realize their days are numbered, and no amount of lawsuits will ever destroy it, just as the betamax didn&#8217;t die (it merely became the industry standard, with VHS supplanting the home standard), neither will digital audio go away from suing a bunch of individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4863</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bainwol did not draw anything anywhere. He is a paid mouth who says what he is told to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bainwol did not draw anything anywhere. He is a paid mouth who says what he is told to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4859</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 04:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s interesting is that Mitch and his cohorts are the ones who drew the line in the sand.  uncomprimising attitudes always leads to conflicts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s interesting is that Mitch and his cohorts are the ones who drew the line in the sand.  uncomprimising attitudes always leads to conflicts.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4802</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s you or us Riaa says  Well then riaa I say its YOU  or would that be US  oh hell Filesharers WIN  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s you or us Riaa says  Well then riaa I say its YOU  or would that be US  oh hell Filesharers WIN  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4755</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if they used filesharing to their advantage, instead of trying to destroy it, they could make a lot of money.  There are about 60 million alleged filesharers the RIAA wants to sue.  If 10 million of them (that&#039;s about 1 in 30 Americans) agreed to pay a small flat monthly fee of $10 that would guarantee them protection from the RIAA while allowing them to download an unlimited supply of all the free songs they wanted, the music industry would receive a total revenue of $100 million after one month, which is more than the iTunes music store made in a whole year.  If p2p didn&#039;t exist, and people were forced to pay ridiculous prices for music, they wouoldn&#039;t buy the amount of music they currently download for free, because they just don&#039;t have that kind of money.  But if music were in limitless supply for a flat fee, they&#039;d gladly participate.  It&#039;s like Columbia house from 10 years ago.  Nobody cared what CD&#039;s they might receive in the mail, they just ordered random music on a fluke, because it was a good deal (at the beginning)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if they used filesharing to their advantage, instead of trying to destroy it, they could make a lot of money.  There are about 60 million alleged filesharers the RIAA wants to sue.  If 10 million of them (that&#8217;s about 1 in 30 Americans) agreed to pay a small flat monthly fee of $10 that would guarantee them protection from the RIAA while allowing them to download an unlimited supply of all the free songs they wanted, the music industry would receive a total revenue of $100 million after one month, which is more than the iTunes music store made in a whole year.  If p2p didn&#8217;t exist, and people were forced to pay ridiculous prices for music, they wouoldn&#8217;t buy the amount of music they currently download for free, because they just don&#8217;t have that kind of money.  But if music were in limitless supply for a flat fee, they&#8217;d gladly participate.  It&#8217;s like Columbia house from 10 years ago.  Nobody cared what CD&#8217;s they might receive in the mail, they just ordered random music on a fluke, because it was a good deal (at the beginning)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4754</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what Sir Time Berners-Lee thinks of all this online stuff going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what Sir Time Berners-Lee thinks of all this online stuff going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4741</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on. Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on. Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/2257/comment-page-1#comment-4735</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear.

I wonder if Wells Fargo had had the wherewithal (and if the politicians of the day had had the same lack of ethics and foresight) to thwart the spread of automobiles in the early 20th century whether we&#039;d all be riding in stagecoaches even to this day.

Or even had there been a powerful and wealthy bank tellers&#039; union, would we still be lining up with Mary Lou to access our bank accounts every Friday afternoon?

Where is the &quot;inventor of the internet&quot; to help the cause of technological advance NOW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear.</p>
<p>I wonder if Wells Fargo had had the wherewithal (and if the politicians of the day had had the same lack of ethics and foresight) to thwart the spread of automobiles in the early 20th century whether we&#8217;d all be riding in stagecoaches even to this day.</p>
<p>Or even had there been a powerful and wealthy bank tellers&#8217; union, would we still be lining up with Mary Lou to access our bank accounts every Friday afternoon?</p>
<p>Where is the &#8220;inventor of the internet&#8221; to help the cause of technological advance NOW?</p>
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