When 26 people rip the same file …
p2pnet news view | P2P | Music:- It’s interesting that the music industry is claiming damages per file download.
Their interdiction procedures have filled the ED2k (Emule/Edonkey) network with fake files and their methodology of advertising non-existent files makes the network appear as if it’s thousands of times larger than it really is.
I wonder if they explain that to the judiciary and legislators when they’re pressing for relief and damages?
Somehow, I don’t think so.
The result of their interdiction is supposedly to make the job of finding the file harder.
They obviously think people in the file sharing communities are dumb.
In my experience, the average user twho utilizes file sharing software is technically competent with an average IQ that would appear to be far above the Big Music’s interdiction hired guns.
Here’s an example of their interdiction of The Script’s latest release, Breakeven.
Oh yeah, and each file is only available from a single host ????????????
In other words, 26 users ripped the file (all different hash file identifiers) with exactly the same bytes, bit rate and song length.
How stupid do they think downloader’s are?
And the music industry is paying for this ??????
There used to be a saying:
“May God save us from fools and save fools from themselves.”
I guess this demonstration of the music industry wasting their money on interdiction is an example of what that saying was meant to allude to.
From the ROTFLMAO Department.
Tom Koltai – p2pnet
[Koltai is an economist in Sydney Australia. He's says he's been online for 26 years, has run several ISPs and, "lobbied governments in four countries to prevent Internet restrictive usage legislation from being enacted". He says he's a strong believer in P2P, "as being a technological requirement to fully exploit the convergence of telephony with computers and remove the last barriers to human communication and interaction".]
June, 2009
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June 12th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Since they themselves are seeding the network, and, according to them, this implies consent to distribute,
wouldn’t that make it completely legit for everyone to share that file ? After all, according to their own
arguments in court they have given permission to mass distribute.
June 12th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
I don’t understand what’s the message supposed to be from Tom’s post.
Because of the “interdiction” there are now those 2 choices to be made.
Which one(s) of those is a “perfect digital copy” (as they like to call the low quality mp3 crap themself!) of the song?
the reasoning of evil4 is that a would be copyrightinfringer is frustrated when he downloads fakes. If we assume there is only one working version in this list, the chance that a non itunes user gets a fake one is 25 to 1. Unless Tom has the secret to tell which fileID is one of a “legit” copy, I would say interdiction does indeed work after all.
I would be frustrated (if I would want to download this crap in the first place that is. Which is not!) since contrary to what evil4 claims in their courtpapers, distributing/downloading stuff still takes some time. No million copies to million peoples in one day!
June 12th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
26*
June 15th, 2009 at 1:18 am
When all the copies are seen to come from the same host then its pretty easy to filter that single host to remove them, thus interdiction is nullified. Edonkey network users are able to obtain a file called “ipfilter” that contains the addresses of these industry lackies, blocking those addresses ensures no fakes appear.
I myself use the decentralised WinMX network and on that we see thousands of fakes all emanating currently from the 38 and 174 ranges via secondary users connecting to primaries (supernodes), this has meant that its not possible to directly block the interdictors with programs like peer guardian because it is unable to check each network packet for its origins.
For those using the WinMX “community patch” salvation has been at hand for the last few years, this patch is able to read the network header information and thus it can block all of the current interdiction attempts, all fakes are removed from the network in search results and blocking of malicious nodes is swiftly undertaken, this is the only proven 100% effective solution.
My advice to other networks that are suffering “attacks” is to create better tools to detect the interdictors and work hard on getting a community consensus for a blocklist in place that is managed by the most trusted folks, no one need be blocked on anyones “guesses” or “hunches”, with the correct tools and intelligent interpretation all blocking of specific nodes can be made public and justified to the community, build trust and automate any blocking where possible and interdiction becomes merely an annoyance for those who didnt “read the manual”.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:41 am
PS: If your not sure what or how your particular network is being hit seek out a torrent file called “trapper keeper” (50M approx) for some tips from media defender, this one may still work.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3819529/Mediadefender_-_ANTI_P2P-mails_and_source_code