Comments on: China Green Dam company accused of piracy

By: Rhor

Rhor — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:57:08 +0000

Chinas fast rise is only because they spend nothing on development by “borrowing on a permanent basis” any ideas and technology or software that they want , spend nothing on safety , spend nothing relatively on wages , so this article isnt exactly news .

By: some chinese

some chinese — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:05:28 +0000

installation of this product is not mandatory. it has been clearly and officially announced from the beginning. it is mandatory, however, to include the software package in newly shipped computers, and the user will have the freedom to decide whether s/he wants to install it. i think the translators who first introduced green dam to westerners intentionally omitted this point, or do not understand chinese well to see the difference.

about the developer’s response: in one report the developer said that they did a search and found the data from the internet, and they also mentioned that data was leaked by some hacker (presumably they are referring the hacker(s) who cracked cybersitter open a while ago). so, even if they did not steal the sourcecode, they intentionally used something which they know is from some commercial product, and incorporated into their product as separate features. that’s stealing, of course.
in another report some head of the developer’s company said the databases might share similarities because the sites listed are all well-known porn sites – clearly he did not see the previous report at which the developer admitted they grabbed the leaked data from the internet.
too bad they included cybersitter’s 2004 security bulletin into their software, as well as urls pointing to cybersitter’s updated database – this makes any defending and denying pointless and funny.
they threatens to sue the professors who cracked their software open, by the way.

By: A_F

A_F — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:44:01 +0000

Green Dam developer Jinhui Computer System Engineering Inc, âdenied stealing anything,â says the story,.

of course they didn’t steal anything. the small american company still has their software, has they not?

Just because this time it is “evil” china and not an american musicdownloader does not make this copyrightinfringement by china anything like stealing anymore then the music downloading is stealing (which it is NOT of course!)

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:32:22 +0000

I’m on CyberSitter’s side.
For one company to steal from another is wrong, they can’t claim fair use on this one.
China will have to force their ISP’s to make installation of this product mandatory.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:58:51 +0000

So, this software. Impossible to uninstall and circumvent?

No… I didn’t think so.

When I first heard about this despotic adventure by the Chinese authorities I first thought it was going to be hardware based. Unless Ubuntu is also a filter keyword, this shouldn’t be hard to get round.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:38:51 +0000

“Just because we are a small company doesnât make the theft of CyberSitter any less (wrong). ”

you’re a small company up against US and Chinese corporations and governments. you’re toast. sorry.