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	<title>Comments on: Eating in silence in Oz</title>
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		<title>By: surfer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--&gt;IP&lt;--

theres a bag of free IP for ya Sean, now go troll elsewhere. people on p2pnet are far from uneducated and self serving.
are you really that fucking retarded that you &lt;i&gt;ACUTALLY&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt; think a 2000%-4000% increase is fair?

dont go away mad, just go away.

stw&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p>theres a bag of free IP for ya Sean, now go troll elsewhere. people on p2pnet are far from uneducated and self serving.<br />
are you really that fucking retarded that you <i>ACUTALLY</i><i> think a 2000%-4000% increase is fair?</p>
<p>dont go away mad, just go away.</p>
<p>stw</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, SOCAN&#039;s equivalent in Australia is APRA, not PPCA.  The quality of that article&#039;s research is reflected in the quality of the argument.  

Sadly, much like the Sean Hannitys and Bill O&#039;Reillys of the world, advocates against IP (Intellectual Property, read: copyright) largely read what they want to read, ignore or dismiss the other side and fail to get their facts; relying instead on what they want to believe is happening.  I&#039;m all for revamping copyright, it&#039;s dated and showing a lot of cracks; and it is being addressed slowly.  But I&#039;m not willing to see creative people pay the price in the interim because people feel everything they use should be free.

SOCAN is a not-for-profit, representing and collecting on behalf of music writers, who for the most part starve to death (we&#039;re not talking artists here) without the backend (Performance Royalties).  The lack of education outside of the industry is mind blowing and if anything, SOCAN&#039;s shortcoming is in not being able to educate everyone as to what they do.  &quot;Rip(ping) off everybody and anybody&quot; isn&#039;t in their mandate.  If you want to use something, you rent it or you buy it, be it a circular saw or a car.  IP is no different and arguments to the contrary are uneducated, self-serving or more often both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, SOCAN&#8217;s equivalent in Australia is APRA, not PPCA.  The quality of that article&#8217;s research is reflected in the quality of the argument.  </p>
<p>Sadly, much like the Sean Hannitys and Bill O&#8217;Reillys of the world, advocates against IP (Intellectual Property, read: copyright) largely read what they want to read, ignore or dismiss the other side and fail to get their facts; relying instead on what they want to believe is happening.  I&#8217;m all for revamping copyright, it&#8217;s dated and showing a lot of cracks; and it is being addressed slowly.  But I&#8217;m not willing to see creative people pay the price in the interim because people feel everything they use should be free.</p>
<p>SOCAN is a not-for-profit, representing and collecting on behalf of music writers, who for the most part starve to death (we&#8217;re not talking artists here) without the backend (Performance Royalties).  The lack of education outside of the industry is mind blowing and if anything, SOCAN&#8217;s shortcoming is in not being able to educate everyone as to what they do.  &#8220;Rip(ping) off everybody and anybody&#8221; isn&#8217;t in their mandate.  If you want to use something, you rent it or you buy it, be it a circular saw or a car.  IP is no different and arguments to the contrary are uneducated, self-serving or more often both.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat, they&#039;re doing all they can to run themselves out of business. 

Do you think for a moment if I was a caterer and had to pay even $5000 that I would play music for people? Forget that. Those folks can bring their own music if they want it that bad. 

All I see here is an industry so greedy that they have lost all touch with reality and what normal folks that work for a living make. Since no one will be able to afford it, they may make the first year on fines to people that don&#039;t know about the rate increase. Those that do won&#039;t be playing the major labels stuff no more. Can&#039;t say I blame them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat, they&#8217;re doing all they can to run themselves out of business. </p>
<p>Do you think for a moment if I was a caterer and had to pay even $5000 that I would play music for people? Forget that. Those folks can bring their own music if they want it that bad. </p>
<p>All I see here is an industry so greedy that they have lost all touch with reality and what normal folks that work for a living make. Since no one will be able to afford it, they may make the first year on fines to people that don&#8217;t know about the rate increase. Those that do won&#8217;t be playing the major labels stuff no more. Can&#8217;t say I blame them.</p>
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