Dutch p2p site vs Big Music
p2pnet.net News:- The Big Four record label cartel is trying to stomp Shareconnector.com, a Dutch p2p release site.
Usually, when this happens, the site involved folds. Sometimes it re-surfaces somewhere else, sometimers it doesn’t.
This time, however, Big Music has a fight on its hands.
On August 26 BREIN, Holland’s RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America), blasted Shareconnector with a C & D notice.
BREIN is short for ‘Protection Rights Entertainment Industry Netherlands’ and its usual business is trying to nail the real criminals - the hard-core gangs and loners dealing in counterfeit software, CDs and movies. And more power to it in this kind of enforcement activity.
But in accordance with cartel instructions, BREIN recently turned its attentions to file sharers, specifically to sites such as Releases4u.com, even going so far as to collect data on the people behind them - with the OK of the Dutch Privacy Authorities.
However, “In an effort organized through ALLIEd2k, Shareconnector is going to fight back,” reports p2pnet’s Dutch correspondent Raymond Blijd.
He also says Christiaan A. Thijm, the man who defended Kazaa through Holland’s high courts and won, might be taking the case on.
If he does - and p2pnet has been told the chances are better than good that he will - it’ll be a ground-breaking suit.
So far, BREIN hasn’t responded, says ALLIEd2k.
Blijd says questions which which are likely to be exlored in depth could include:
- Are ed2k links legal?
- Are Hash codes, used to packages files on networks, legal?
- Are Forum sites, which present ed2k links, legal?
- Can Shareconnector’s webmaster be held liable under European law for the conduct of people who use the site?
“Maybe, if we’re lucky, they’ll also resolve IP trace issue - that is: can a commercial entity legally trace IP addresses for the purpose of suing?” - adds Blijd, a freelance legal ICT consultant and legal knowledge system engineer.
He’ll be reporting on the story as it unfolds.
September 5th, 2004 at 9:46 pm
spread the word on this people. lets hope this is the start of something
September 6th, 2004 at 3:25 am
You say that Kazza already won in the european courts!!! Well then wouldn’t that set a predence in this case or was that victory in another part of europe???? Hope they kick their ass’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 6th, 2004 at 7:59 am
Kazaa case was different because it was seen as software. The questions is will this also hold up in case of a forum site
September 6th, 2004 at 11:51 pm
Grand Duke From the Netherlands.
The Dutch RIAA (BREIN) is a very sneaky and they are walking on the edge of what is right and wrong. I see in their eyes only $$$ signs.
Do you people outside the Netherlands that we have to pay a kind of fee for every empty cd-rom or DVD and that this money goes to the dutch record industry.
Even I don’t burn music or movies I pay the fee for it.
I use only cd-roms to save reports from my work and for private use I only use cd-rom for saving my photo’s on cd-roms.
I have a 8.3 mil. pix. digital camera and they pictures are about 24 Mb big so I can only save 28 photo’s on one cd rom, so I use a lot of cd roms.
How about my money that goes to the record industry?
Fuck them they steel and now the try to catch people that are doing good work.
The record industry at the netherlands make more and more money by keeping the price of a music cd still sky high.
How about 25 - 30 US$ for one single music cd, I think they steel enough of use already.
How about the people of Brein are going to fancy fairs to see if someone is selling a copy of a movie or music cd, when the Brein people catch you, you get a 5500$ penalty.
All this give me a very bad taste in my mouth.
Get as much money from people is the slogan of the BREIN at the netherlands.
Greetings
GD
September 7th, 2004 at 12:35 am
Good story as always, and 100% good luck to them ; but…
I’m sick of this site, and others, attempting to evangelise that what we do as downloaders is any different to what the guys and gals selling this stuff on a market stall do - they make money off it, we don’t, in every other respect, when you break it down to its brass roots, what we do is the same. We breach copyright law in order to get free stuff. I have low moral standards on this, so do millions of others, so what? p2pnet, stop trying to bang the drum for the ‘innocent filesharer’. If someone’s ripping spiderman 2 or the latest Wu-Tang album, they know it’s wrong. But hey, if someone can get a legal loophole to prove that what we do is legal, fuckin A. I’m right behind them.
September 7th, 2004 at 6:18 am
True enough…This is an excellent site, but it shouldnt call itself a news site. A true news site tries to bring things togeather from both angles…this site just hammers the point “RIAA is wrong! MPAA is wrong! File-sharers are victims!!!”
How about letting us see some views from the other side? Othewise this is just a glorified blog site.
Otherwise nice job! (pardon my constructive criticism)
September 7th, 2004 at 6:34 am
As you can read: BREIN did not react yet..
How can the pub. the reaction from ‘the other side’ if tos not react?
September 7th, 2004 at 7:29 am
Damn straight they are going to fight it. Just like they should!
Just like the Underground Network is going to fight the FBI/MPAA/RIAA. We haven’t done anything wrong. Everyone must work together to fight this fascism.
“Coming together is a beginning;
keeping together is a process;
working together is success”
- Henry Ford
Fight for your rights.
~G
September 7th, 2004 at 10:22 am
BREIN is not like the RIAA. It’s more like the organisation that urged the Swiss police to investigate sharereactor, SAFE. If you go to their site, http://www.anti-piracy.nl/ and click on the British flag to get the english, you’ll see right away a heading that says “BREIN participants”. Here’s the list:
* The music, video and interactive departments of the Dutch association for producers and importers of image and sound carriers, NVPI.
* The Dutch Publishers Association, NUV , on behalf of the publishers of multimedia software.
* The Dutch association of phonogram retailers, NVGD.
* The international organisation of major motion picture producers, Motion Picture Association.
* The joint licensor of non-theatrical video performance rights, Videma.
* The Dutch association of film distributors, NVF.
* The Dutch music rights collecting society Buma/Stemra on behalf of composers, textwriters and music publishers.
* BREIN also works with the international association of music producers, IFPI, and maintains regular contact with the Business Software Alliance and the international association of interactive distributors IDSA.
That’s not just the RIAA, that’s about as diverse a list of copyright holders as you can get. In other words, shareconnector is up against the Dutch face of most of the copyright holders who might be angered by their site’s content.
September 7th, 2004 at 4:35 pm
It’s not shraconnector who made a big point with it. They barely post information on Allied2K. They do support it but I can fix the job
Probably they will get the famous face when we fight BREIN and I feel a bit sad about it
I allready fight a half a year against BREIN (sometime Dutch websites pub. about it), and this is for me a golden medal for my hard work. (hmmm, looks like a can’t translate that expresion).
Maybe they will give me credits someday. I give credits to Raymond Blijd from FK2W.com who helps me a lot. (probably we 2 are the only real BREIN-fighters in The Netherlands who are active).
Grz,
Bart Otten (B.0) aka Xarenion
September 7th, 2004 at 8:11 pm
What! You’re not accusing p2pnet of being biased, are you? ;p
Cheers!
November 13th, 2004 at 6:49 am
Fight for your rights huh…. nothing is free learn to pay for entertainment.. If u want free just breathe.