Comments on: Pay Big Music $1,920,000, Jammie told

By: JP

JP — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:12:46 +0000

fucking ridiculous. I just feel so bad.

So yes, the multi billion dollar record companies are now only making 300 million a year instead of the 600 million they could.

meanwhile your average joe who makes 30k a year, is saving like 500 dollars on songs. BIG FUCKING WHOOP! such bullshit.

By: surfer

surfer — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:13:49 +0000

Spartacus

By: Bill

Bill — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:03:43 +0000

The good news is that in the long run the chances of using absurd legal actions to sustain RIAA members’ stranglehold on distribution will inevitably fail. Their desperate action against Thomas-Rasset, like those of a cornered (paper) tiger, was a tacit acknowledgement of their future. Their “mission” to promote their member’s “creative and financial vitality” is a red herring. Their real mission is to protect the financial interests of distributors. Sorry to break the news to them but they might as well be trying to sell typewriters. Where is it written that a recording artist should make 100 times that of a teacher? Artistic creativity will survive the demise of RIAA. To the RIAA, if you are looking for people who share music files I stand up and say: “I am Spartigus.”

By: Liz at Giganews

Liz at Giganews — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:09:19 +0000

a machine built on greed, ego and pride.

@surfer the MAFIAA are engaged in a game of checkers, when in actuality, we are playing chess.

nice

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:18:20 +0000

She should’ve just stole 24 CDs from a store. The penalty for that wouldn’t have been as stiff.

Now how stupid is that?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:10:30 +0000

I have a question.
Did Jammie’s lawyer – or any of the lawyers – get to see the jury instructions prior to the jury getting them?
If not, then how can Judge Davis be so sure is giving them correct instructions and not making another “manifest error of law.”

By: Dreddsnik

Dreddsnik — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:14:49 +0000

” The judge isn’t in anyone’s pay. He’s just a lawyer who’s following the letter of the law, written by lawyers for lawyers. ”

I doubt that.
One of his Jury instructions ONCE AGAIN is not rooted in any law.

Instruction 18

The act of downloading sound recordings on a per to peer network Without license from the copyright holders,
violates the copyright owners’ exclusive reproduction right.

this act is allowed by the AHRA for the purpose of personal, not for profit use, that is why the RIAA no longer sues for
downloading, they sue for distribution. Since she is being sued for distribution this does not belong here and is NOT
and agreed on defacto LAW.

Judge Davis’ instructions give the jury no choice but to find her guilty, if not of distribution, but of downloading, in a roundabout
way.

This error of law is less obvious than the one from the first trial and shows, not a desire to be just, but to still give the
RIAA the same result in a fashion better suited to cover judges davis’ ass.

No , the Judge is working in biased fashion with the well monied RIAA.

By: Sukasa

Sukasa — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:41:18 +0000

“We don’t negotiate with terrorists, we kill them.”

Then why are any members of the RIAA still alive, again?

By: Sukasa

Sukasa — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:40:23 +0000

I agree with what Jon’s saying about buying from indies. I’ve gotten a lot of albums from a site called vulpvibe.com, and frankly, Renard’s work is way better than any of the shit the RIAA’s benefactors have been putting out.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:17:27 +0000

You could buy CD’s still and support the artists when they perform what they wrote. Check out Aimee Mann. Using the RIAARadar I found that Aimee Mann is “safe”. NIN’s new material is not only RIAA-free, it is CPL.

It sucks for the artists who are on big labels, like Joe Satriani, whom I wish I could buy his new album but I can’t support Sony/Epic (especially Sony with their DRM crap).

By: Jay

Jay — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:22:55 +0000

I dont listen to 90% of the music I have. Why I have it is more about bragging I have that much. I ran into someone last year that had over 120k songs. Mostly europop and techno that is played at his clubs around the world. I dont profit from anything Ive downloaded and I dont even own an ipod or other form of mp3 player except for cell phone. I dont have a cd player so there is no need to buy cds even thou I wouldnt because of the labels. Sometimes its just nice to want to listen to a certain song while you are on the computer.

By: DTS

DTS — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:05:30 +0000

Honestly, I don’t know about Judge Davis following the letter of the law. It mostly seemed like he and the jury were being led like bulls with nose rings — the Mediasentry evidence was okayed, and let’s not forget that the reason for the new trial in the first place was because Judge Davis saw through the nonsense that was the RIAA’s making available theory; yet the RIAA did little more this time except for pointing the finger at her. Ars Technica hit the nail rather on the head — this jury was another bit of a bendover joke. We’ll soon see another series of jurors’ accounts of how they wanted to make an example of this unfortunate woman.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:29:47 +0000

We don’t negotiate with terrorists, we kill them.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:27:51 +0000

“This verdict and the excessive damages are unAmerica”

Because these parasites are not american. They should be arrested and deported.

By: Matt F.

Matt F. — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:40:01 +0000

I’d say it’s a near-certainty the judge will modify this verdict. If only to prevent the embarrassment of what appears to be a confused jury shrugging and picking an award at the middle of the statutory range, apparently without regard to what the range exists for (the circumstances of the case, the resources of its parties, etc.).

Also, remember what the McDonald’s spilled coffee case (regardless of its merits) did to the politics and popular opinions surrounding personal injury litigation? A large award like this one can frame the discussion in a similar light. No longer are copyright reformists’ warnings of $150,000 fines per file for home file sharing quite so alarmist; no longer are copyright owners’ reassurances that copyright law is fair and will be used as a gentle deterrence quite so convincing.

Besides, I’m a fan of irony. I wish things had turned out better for J.T.R., but failing that, there’s nothing quite as sinfully delicious as a verdict that’s too big for the RIAA’s own good.

By: whatheFluck

whatheFluck — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:22:22 +0000

Seriously the big 4 should be on a terrorist watch-list. This verdict and the excessive damages are unAmerica

By: loubat

loubat — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:36:43 +0000

Confused on this part:

JURY INSTRUCTION NO. 18
The act of downloading copyrighted sound recordings on a peer‐to‐peer
network, without license from the copyright owners, violates the copyright
owners’ exclusive reproduction right.

Is this actually in the copyright law somewhere, or is this just something that the judge decided to tell the jurors?

By: NO1UNO

NO1UNO — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:07:39 +0000

@surfer, woulda emailed you brother, but i dont MAC…………guess i will do what i can from pee cee!!

stw

By: NoOne

NoOne — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:33:15 +0000

Good verdict. Seriously. Even you’ve got half of a brain, you cannot miss the fact that the verdict is blatantly absurd. This is a Pyhrric victory for the MAFIAA. They’ve gone really too far.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:25:00 +0000

@Jay, 50 000 mp3?

I’ve never understood how people can go above a few thousand. I’m around 4k myself but many are from CD’s I own or cassettes. I am not searching indie stuff like I should. There’s bound to be a lot out there that’s good, though on myspace many are rap/rock/metal hybrids which isn’t my thing.

Anyhow, back on point, how the hell did you find 50 000 songs that you really like? I’m still limited to really only wanting 3 000, and even that is a stretch of songs I “need.”