You get it plain wrong. It’s like if you were saying that those who looks at porno are losers, sicks or psychos, or anywhere but normal.

It’s maybe because you don’t watch porno and you are proud of it and thinks that you are normal so, the others are not.

Or maybe, you are a loser or a psycho and you are seeking the answer of what and why?

But the fact is that every living creature has the capacity, desire and willing to procreate. Everything is about hormones, pheromones and others substances in the bloodstream and produced by the brain.

Everykind of activities that makes the brain produce substance that are enjoyable, the brain wants it more. Therefore, it’s perfectly normal that any person watching porn feel as much enjoyable. So many pleasurable hormones and pheromones are produced during sexual activities. It’s normal.

I would recommand porn to anyone (18y+).

Here a sample: if the Internet ban porn someday, it will instantly follow years and years of increased number of child abuse, rape, sexual exploit of any kind. The porn helps to control desires and fantasms to stay in the mind if it’s advised.

Maybe most of the rapist and other abusers that are currently in jail would have just sat at their computer and watch porno, instead of going to mess up another precious life.

Think about it. You don’t have a perfect answer, me neither, no one either. It’s a society debate (débat de société). The question might never be answered.

Think of Porn being prohibited. Think noone decides you are worth having sexual intercourse with him/her, but you’ve heard the stories of it… everyone’s doing it… why not me…

Don’t you think the rate of rapings, child molestations and such would go up ?

If no woman decides I’m good enough, I’ll just take what I want.. ?! It may be a small percentage, but I think there would be enough “crazy” people who would commit a rape if they’ve never had the chance of masturbating while viewing porn.

Think about that. Porn actually saves some…

Maybe those people aren’t crazy after all, but just have the urge for sexuality which isn’t offered to them.
Nowadays, they go working, having chats with friends and are masturbating while watching porn.
In the porn-prohibited future, they go working, having chats with friends and once every 5 years maybe rape a woman…

I don’t think that is what you want…

Leave porn free…

An Anonymous Coward from Germany, where (THANK GOD) we do not have such silly problems…

Post Scriptum: Sorry for any grammatic or spelling errors…

Problem with advertising media — yes exactly. That was my point.

I would think that hate also requires a certain degree of objectification. But maybe it only works that way for me. The point I was trying to make is that respect is an issue. You might say you can hate someone, while still respecting them. But something about the word respect implies sort of an indescribable kind of love, at least for me. Everything that I respect I also love and value. I see that as the opposite of objectification. But again, that’s just me.

Finally, the word “public” was important to my last point. I don’t see anything public about playing D & D. I personally love the stuff but I don’t see anything public about it. The public norm applies to things that are public. Basically, the stuff right out front where the public essentially has no choice but to partake. I think it’s only fair and respectable that some kind of norm applies to those things, and it can’t be derived from any kind of extreme viewpoint. It would be best if it was like a 95% confidence interval that the majority of the public would be unharmed by the content. And “harm” has multiple definitions, as pointed out by the vietnamese american in another post.

Thanks for the good reply.

Chronologic

I don’t get this argument. There are a lot of people out there who don’t like their jobs. Why is this just fine when the job is filing documents, but bad when the job is stripping?

“I am in no hurry to see billboards on the way to school of sex acts that I did not ask to see. But yet, on the internet that is exactly what is happening to people.”

What you are describing is a problem with the advertising media in question (billboards or banners/popups), not a problem with porn. Porn can be legal without allowing it to be placed on billboards.

“Objectification of people would be a necessary pre-requisite for rape behavior, because if you really cared more about the person you were raping than for your own need for satisfaction, you would not do it. Only by disregarding this person’s feelings could you force them to participate in something they did not wish, and hurt them in the process.”

Not true. You could also hate the person rather than objectifying them. There’s also the stereotypical parental statement of “this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you” – the person inflicting the hurt could believe that it is necessary to some other benefit. (That would be some pretty twisted reasoning in the case of rape, but it’s really only directed towards your broader claim that you would never hurt someone you care about.)

“I would also feel it was my duty to weigh in my opinion about what I think should be our “acceptable public norm”. On that issue I would vote for pornography being illegal.”

I disagree with your criteria at this point. The law should be about what is harmful or not harmful. It should not be about what is normative. (Most people don’t play D&D. Most people would not want to see everyone playing D&D, so it is not an “acceptable public norm”. But this in no way means that playing D&D should be illegal.)

Yup. I’ve long believed that pornography (with the exception of that which depicts violent or seemingly-nonconsensual acts) is NOT harmful to children – any harm is the result of people’s attempts to shield them from it and reactions if they learn that a child has happened to see some.

And you know, I’ve never been able to get a good answer to this question: When does a bare female breast become harmful for a child to see? At one point it’s a food source, at another, it’s pornographic and supposedly damaging. When and why does this change take place?

*lol* And just how do you account for the couples (some married, some not) who enjoy watching porn together?

“They LIKE it. It’s an industry in which they can earn $1000 a week, just dancing topless. And they LOVE the attention. Some girls go a little further than that, but I doubt that very many in the USA are forced to. In other countries, certainly, there is a problem, but don’t try that argument here.”

“The fact of the matter is that the rest of the world has far fewer problems than the USA on puritanical issues. In Europe, nudity is no big deal. They don’t sensationalize it. They don’t ban it. They don’t legislate it. Not like we do. And as such, their kids don’t think twice about it.”

“This desire for puritanical control is what’s causing the problem in the first place. Stop it. Stop it now. Get out of the 18th century.”

Hear, hear! I just selected the biggest points to repeat, but your entire post is dead-on.