Comments on: ASCAP, ringtones, and $$$$$ http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23663 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: yeah http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23663/comment-page-1#comment-978012 yeah Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:22:08 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=23663#comment-978012 Totally dudes! Those stupid jerks who are always making music and writing songs shouldn't be paid anything at all! They should just be happy that they're enabling the awesome technology companies to make gazillions of dollars! And consumers should live in fear of copyright laws that have created the most vibrant culture that the world has ever seen! Next thing you know songwriters and artists will be killing people in the street just for enjoying the works that they create! They are evil. I think we can agree on that. Particularly when they get organized into big collectives like ASCAP and come with some negotiating power. Lord knows if I want the money to go to anyone it's certainly not an individual who has created something that enriches my life. The money should totally go to the angels at the tech companies who exist only for the good of humanity and do everything they do out of purely altruistic motives. God bless them. Totally dudes! Those stupid jerks who are always making music and writing songs shouldn’t be paid anything at all! They should just be happy that they’re enabling the awesome technology companies to make gazillions of dollars! And consumers should live in fear of copyright laws that have created the most vibrant culture that the world has ever seen! Next thing you know songwriters and artists will be killing people in the street just for enjoying the works that they create! They are evil. I think we can agree on that. Particularly when they get organized into big collectives like ASCAP and come with some negotiating power. Lord knows if I want the money to go to anyone it’s certainly not an individual who has created something that enriches my life. The money should totally go to the angels at the tech companies who exist only for the good of humanity and do everything they do out of purely altruistic motives. God bless them.

]]> By: Robert http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23663/comment-page-1#comment-976910 Robert Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:13:23 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=23663#comment-976910 @Rabbit80, How soon before the fine applies to thinking? Last I read from www.riaa.com, it already exists. If their systems (tied in with NSA/CSEC/ECHLON) detect you playing a song in your heard they own the copyrights to, your bill is prepared. But to make it financially feasible, they don't actually notify you or send you the bill. Instead they will send a litigation letter after some predetermined amount of time and with a special jury, they will get $150 000 per song thought of in your head. Apparently no litigation letters have been sent out yet because of a glitch in their system, which is using Windows ME. @Rabbit80,

How soon before the fine applies to thinking? Last I read from http://www.riaa.com, it already exists. If their systems (tied in with NSA/CSEC/ECHLON) detect you playing a song in your heard they own the copyrights to, your bill is prepared. But to make it financially feasible, they don’t actually notify you or send you the bill. Instead they will send a litigation letter after some predetermined amount of time and with a special jury, they will get $150 000 per song thought of in your head.

Apparently no litigation letters have been sent out yet because of a glitch in their system, which is using Windows ME.

]]> By: Rabbit80 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23663/comment-page-1#comment-976905 Rabbit80 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:43:48 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=23663#comment-976905 How soon before merely thinking a song can land you with an $80,000 fine? How soon before merely thinking a song can land you with an $80,000 fine?

]]> By: NO1UNO http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23663/comment-page-1#comment-976822 NO1UNO Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:46:28 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=23663#comment-976822 @ rabbit80 How about being charged $80,000 for singing (badly) in the shower?? @ rabbit80
How about being charged $80,000 for singing (badly) in the shower??

]]> By: Robert http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23663/comment-page-1#comment-976815 Robert Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:38:13 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=23663#comment-976815 SOCAN should be making similar claims too... You know, this whole mess is the fault of the RIAA. Had they not started suing people and Napster/Grokster etc... none of the other publi$her$/compo$er$/author$/$ocietie$ would be holding their hands out. Had Congress really stepped back to see the bullshit the MPAA/RIAA had been feeding them for the DMCA and the like, the **AA would not be allowed to grab for money, and thus none of the other groups would try to follow suit. It's the "if they are doing it why can't we" mentality. Congress really should have thought this through. If those companies were prevented from suing, they would have had no option but to change to compete and they would have, and they would be flourishing, and downloads would be cheap, people would not be hating them right now, artists would still be screwed though. So you can't win everything. SOCAN should be making similar claims too…

You know, this whole mess is the fault of the RIAA. Had they not started suing people and Napster/Grokster etc… none of the other publi$her$/compo$er$/author$/$ocietie$ would be holding their hands out.

Had Congress really stepped back to see the bullshit the MPAA/RIAA had been feeding them for the DMCA and the like, the **AA would not be allowed to grab for money, and thus none of the other groups would try to follow suit. It’s the “if they are doing it why can’t we” mentality.

Congress really should have thought this through.

If those companies were prevented from suing, they would have had no option but to change to compete and they would have, and they would be flourishing, and downloads would be cheap, people would not be hating them right now, artists would still be screwed though. So you can’t win everything.

]]> By: Rabbit80 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/23663/comment-page-1#comment-976812 Rabbit80 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:23:40 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/?p=23663#comment-976812 What next - will I be charged $80,000 for whistling as I walk down the street? What next – will I be charged $80,000 for whistling as I walk down the street?

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